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She shoulda done a Zimmerman. Black Florida woman gets 20 years in warning shot case.
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Elwood Brady
May 13, 2012, 1:43:00 AM5/13/12
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No word from Obama or Jesse Jackson.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/11/justice/florida-stand-ground-
sentencing/index.html
(CNN) -- Saying he had no discretion under state law, a judge
sentenced a Jacksonville, Florida, woman to 20 years in prison
Friday for firing a warning shot in an effort to scare off her
abusive husband.
Marissa Alexander unsuccessfully tried to use Florida's
controversial "stand your ground" law to derail the prosecution,
but a jury in March convicted her of aggravated assault after
just 12 minutes of deliberation.
The case, which was prosecuted by the same state attorney who is
handling the Trayvon Martin case, has gained the attention of
civil rights leaders who say the African-American woman was
persecuted because of her race.
After the sentencing, Rep. Corrine Brown confronted State
Attorney Angela Corey in the hallway, accusing her of being
overzealous, according to video from CNN affiliate WJXT.
"There is no justification for 20 years," Brown told Corey
during an exchange frequently interrupted by onlookers. "All the
community was asking for was mercy and justice," she said.
Corey said she had offered Alexander a plea bargain that would
have resulted in a three-year prison sentence, but Alexander
chose to take the case to a jury trial, where a conviction would
carry a mandatory sentence under a Florida law known as "10-20-
life."
The law mandates increased penalties for some felonies,
including aggravated assault, in which a gun is carried or used.
Corey said the case deserved to be prosecuted because Alexander
fired in the direction of a room where two children were
standing.
Alexander said she was attempting to flee her husband, Rico
Gray, on August 1, 2010, when she picked up a handgun and fired
a shot into a wall.
She said her husband had read cell phone text messages that she
had written to her ex-husband, got angry and tried to strangle
her.
She said she escaped and ran to the garage, intending to drive
away. But, she said, she forgot her keys, so she picked up her
gun and went back into the house. She said her husband
threatened to kill her, so she fired one shot.
"I believe when he threatened to kill me, that's what he was
absolutely going to do," she said. "That's what he intended to
do. Had I not discharged my weapon at that point, I would not be
here."
Alexander's attorneys tried to use the state law that allows
people to use potentially deadly force anywhere they feel
reasonably threatened with serious harm or death.
But a previous judge in the case rejected the request, saying
Alexander's decision to go back into the house was not
consistent with someone in fear for her safety, according to the
Florida Times Union newspaper.
A jury convicted Alexander in March and Judge James Daniel
denied her request for a new trial in April.
Daniel handed down the sentence Friday after an emotional
sentencing hearing during which Alexander's parents, 11-year-old
daughter and pastor spoke on her behalf.
Several people had to be escorted from the courtroom after
breaking out singing and chanting about a perceived lack of
justice in the case, but Daniel made a point to say that he had
no choice under state law.
"Under the state's 10-20-life law, a conviction for aggravated
assault where a firearm has been discharged carries a minimum
and maximum sentence of 20 years without regarding to any
extenuating or mitigating circumstances that may be present,
such as those in this case," Daniel said.
Brown, the Jacksonville congresswoman, told reporters after the
sentencing that the case was a product of "institutional racism."
"She was overcharged by the prosecutor. Period," Brown said.
"She never should have been charged."
Brown has been more complimentary about Corey's work in the
Trayvon Martin case, where her office filed second degree murder
charges against neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman in
the February 26 death of the unarmed African-American teen-ager.
That case provoked nationwide protests demanding Zimmerman's
arrest after an initial police investigation released him under
the "stand your ground" law.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/11/justice/florida-stand-ground-
sentencing/index.html
(CNN) -- Saying he had no discretion under state law, a judge
sentenced a Jacksonville, Florida, woman to 20 years in prison
Friday for firing a warning shot in an effort to scare off her
abusive husband.
Marissa Alexander unsuccessfully tried to use Florida's
controversial "stand your ground" law to derail the prosecution,
but a jury in March convicted her of aggravated assault after
just 12 minutes of deliberation.
The case, which was prosecuted by the same state attorney who is
handling the Trayvon Martin case, has gained the attention of
civil rights leaders who say the African-American woman was
persecuted because of her race.
After the sentencing, Rep. Corrine Brown confronted State
Attorney Angela Corey in the hallway, accusing her of being
overzealous, according to video from CNN affiliate WJXT.
"There is no justification for 20 years," Brown told Corey
during an exchange frequently interrupted by onlookers. "All the
community was asking for was mercy and justice," she said.
Corey said she had offered Alexander a plea bargain that would
have resulted in a three-year prison sentence, but Alexander
chose to take the case to a jury trial, where a conviction would
carry a mandatory sentence under a Florida law known as "10-20-
life."
The law mandates increased penalties for some felonies,
including aggravated assault, in which a gun is carried or used.
Corey said the case deserved to be prosecuted because Alexander
fired in the direction of a room where two children were
standing.
Alexander said she was attempting to flee her husband, Rico
Gray, on August 1, 2010, when she picked up a handgun and fired
a shot into a wall.
She said her husband had read cell phone text messages that she
had written to her ex-husband, got angry and tried to strangle
her.
She said she escaped and ran to the garage, intending to drive
away. But, she said, she forgot her keys, so she picked up her
gun and went back into the house. She said her husband
threatened to kill her, so she fired one shot.
"I believe when he threatened to kill me, that's what he was
absolutely going to do," she said. "That's what he intended to
do. Had I not discharged my weapon at that point, I would not be
here."
Alexander's attorneys tried to use the state law that allows
people to use potentially deadly force anywhere they feel
reasonably threatened with serious harm or death.
But a previous judge in the case rejected the request, saying
Alexander's decision to go back into the house was not
consistent with someone in fear for her safety, according to the
Florida Times Union newspaper.
A jury convicted Alexander in March and Judge James Daniel
denied her request for a new trial in April.
Daniel handed down the sentence Friday after an emotional
sentencing hearing during which Alexander's parents, 11-year-old
daughter and pastor spoke on her behalf.
Several people had to be escorted from the courtroom after
breaking out singing and chanting about a perceived lack of
justice in the case, but Daniel made a point to say that he had
no choice under state law.
"Under the state's 10-20-life law, a conviction for aggravated
assault where a firearm has been discharged carries a minimum
and maximum sentence of 20 years without regarding to any
extenuating or mitigating circumstances that may be present,
such as those in this case," Daniel said.
Brown, the Jacksonville congresswoman, told reporters after the
sentencing that the case was a product of "institutional racism."
"She was overcharged by the prosecutor. Period," Brown said.
"She never should have been charged."
Brown has been more complimentary about Corey's work in the
Trayvon Martin case, where her office filed second degree murder
charges against neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman in
the February 26 death of the unarmed African-American teen-ager.
That case provoked nationwide protests demanding Zimmerman's
arrest after an initial police investigation released him under
the "stand your ground" law.
Gray Guest
May 13, 2012, 11:54:13 AM5/13/12
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"Elwood Brady" <elw...@youpeetwo.com> wrote in
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Furhter evidence that the FL state attorney is the biggest dumb cunt in FL.
And it proves that modern education makes you stupid and clueless.
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What I like about this attitude is it works equally well for Iran and the
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http://nukeitfromorbit.com/
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And it proves that modern education makes you stupid and clueless.
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I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to
be sure.
What I like about this attitude is it works equally well for Iran and the
Democrat National Covention.
http://nukeitfromorbit.com/
pyotr filipivich
May 13, 2012, 1:05:59 PM5/13/12
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Let the Record show that Gray Guest <No_email...@wahoo.com> on or
about Sun, 13 May 2012 15:54:13 +0000 (UTC) did write, type or
otherwise cause to appear in talk.politics.guns the following:
been told it is of utmost importance to "focus on the big picture",
and "connect the dots." Unfortunately, they have not been told, nor
does it seem that they have figured out, that to "connect the dots",
one first has to "collect the dots". Not knowing "certain objective
realities", they have no way of understanding how "the dots" they
have collected connect. E.G., an intern who said he was interested in
the Suez Crisis, but did not know who was the US President during it.
--
pyotr filipovich
There are two things to remember about History, and both are cliches:
The First is "After all, these are Modern Times."
The Second is "The good Old Days, they were Better."
about Sun, 13 May 2012 15:54:13 +0000 (UTC) did write, type or
otherwise cause to appear in talk.politics.guns the following:
>
>
>Furhter evidence that the FL state attorney is the biggest dumb cunt in FL.
>And it proves that modern education makes you stupid and clueless.
The problem the modern college graduate has, is that they have
>
>Furhter evidence that the FL state attorney is the biggest dumb cunt in FL.
>And it proves that modern education makes you stupid and clueless.
been told it is of utmost importance to "focus on the big picture",
and "connect the dots." Unfortunately, they have not been told, nor
does it seem that they have figured out, that to "connect the dots",
one first has to "collect the dots". Not knowing "certain objective
realities", they have no way of understanding how "the dots" they
have collected connect. E.G., an intern who said he was interested in
the Suez Crisis, but did not know who was the US President during it.
--
pyotr filipovich
There are two things to remember about History, and both are cliches:
The First is "After all, these are Modern Times."
The Second is "The good Old Days, they were Better."
Scout
May 13, 2012, 10:10:00 PM5/13/12
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"Elwood Brady" <elw...@youpeetwo.com> wrote in message
news:LI4DYLD641042.5715277778@reece.net.au...
> No word from Obama or Jesse Jackson.
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/11/justice/florida-stand-ground-
> sentencing/index.html
It should be noted that in Florida law the firing a gun is considered lethal
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/11/justice/florida-stand-ground-
> sentencing/index.html
force.
Intentionally firing into the ceiling (which I assume is an established fact
in the case) is taken as clear evidence that she did NOT fear for her
life/limb enough to justify the use of lethal force or she would not have
intentionally fired to miss her assailant.
The use of lethal force where isn't not legally justified....is a serious
offense. Doesn't matter if you are white, black, brown, tan, green, or any
other color. She committed a crime and that is the way the law is written
and enforced.
Granted I think it's stupid, but that is the state of the law and your color
has nothing to do with it.
RD Sandman
May 14, 2012, 1:17:19 PM5/14/12
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"Elwood Brady" <elw...@youpeetwo.com> wrote in
news:LI4DYLD64104...@reece.net.au:
> No word from Obama or Jesse Jackson.
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/11/justice/florida-stand-ground-
> sentencing/index.html
>
> (CNN) -- Saying he had no discretion under state law, a judge
> sentenced a Jacksonville, Florida, woman to 20 years in prison
> Friday for firing a warning shot in an effort to scare off her
> abusive husband.
>
> Marissa Alexander unsuccessfully tried to use Florida's
> controversial "stand your ground" law to derail the prosecution,
> but a jury in March convicted her of aggravated assault after
> just 12 minutes of deliberation.
>
> The case, which was prosecuted by the same state attorney who is
> handling the Trayvon Martin case, has gained the attention of
> civil rights leaders who say the African-American woman was
> persecuted because of her race.
>
> After the sentencing, Rep. Corrine Brown confronted State
> Attorney Angela Corey in the hallway, accusing her of being
> overzealous, according to video from CNN affiliate WJXT.
>
> "There is no justification for 20 years," Brown told Corey
> during an exchange frequently interrupted by onlookers. "All the
> community was asking for was mercy and justice," she said.
> Corey said she had offered Alexander a plea bargain that would
> have resulted in a three-year prison sentence, but Alexander
> chose to take the case to a jury trial, where a conviction would
> carry a mandatory sentence under a Florida law known as "10-20-
> life."
>
> The law mandates increased penalties for some felonies,
> including aggravated assault, in which a gun is carried or used.
>
> Corey said the case deserved to be prosecuted because Alexander
> fired in the direction of a room where two children were
> standing.
> Alexander said she was attempting to flee her husband, Rico
> Gray, on August 1, 2010, when she picked up a handgun and fired
> a shot into a wall.
>
> She said her husband had read cell phone text messages that she
> had written to her ex-husband, got angry and tried to strangle
> her.
>
> She said she escaped and ran to the garage, intending to drive
> away. But, she said, she forgot her keys, so she picked up her
> gun and went back into the house.
went back.....this time taking a gun with her.
She said her husband
> threatened to kill her, so she fired one shot.
> "I believe when he threatened to kill me, that's what he was
> absolutely going to do," she said. "That's what he intended to
> do. Had I not discharged my weapon at that point, I would not be
> here."
>
> Alexander's attorneys tried to use the state law that allows
> people to use potentially deadly force anywhere they feel
> reasonably threatened with serious harm or death.
>
> But a previous judge in the case rejected the request, saying
> Alexander's decision to go back into the house was not
> consistent with someone in fear for her safety, according to the
> Florida Times Union newspaper.
> A jury convicted Alexander in March and Judge James Daniel
> denied her request for a new trial in April.
>
> Daniel handed down the sentence Friday after an emotional
> sentencing hearing during which Alexander's parents, 11-year-old
> daughter and pastor spoke on her behalf.
>
> Several people had to be escorted from the courtroom after
> breaking out singing and chanting about a perceived lack of
> justice in the case, but Daniel made a point to say that he had
> no choice under state law.
>
> "Under the state's 10-20-life law, a conviction for aggravated
> assault where a firearm has been discharged carries a minimum
> and maximum sentence of 20 years without regarding to any
> extenuating or mitigating circumstances that may be present,
> such as those in this case," Daniel said.
> Brown, the Jacksonville congresswoman, told reporters after the
> sentencing that the case was a product of "institutional racism."
>
> "She was overcharged by the prosecutor. Period," Brown said.
> "She never should have been charged."
She was no longer under immediate fear of loss of life or serious bodily
harm.
> Brown has been more complimentary about Corey's work in the
> Trayvon Martin case, where her office filed second degree murder
> charges against neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman in
> the February 26 death of the unarmed African-American teen-ager.
>
> That case provoked nationwide protests demanding Zimmerman's
> arrest after an initial police investigation released him under
> the "stand your ground" law.
Zimmerman's claim of self defense has no merit. That is what occurred in
this woman's case.
--
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from clothing......perhaps, the problem is not your detergent...
You need to find a new circle of friends!!!
Sleep well, tonight.....
RD (The Sandman)
RD Sandman
May 14, 2012, 1:18:25 PM5/14/12
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Gray Guest <No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote in
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What do you think she should have done? She did offer a plea bargain but
the woman chose to go ahead with a trial that resulted in a mandatory
sentence.
And it proves that modern education makes you stupid and
> clueless.
>
--
news:XnsA052791A13C83We...@88.198.244.100:
the woman chose to go ahead with a trial that resulted in a mandatory
sentence.
And it proves that modern education makes you stupid and
> clueless.
>
--
RD Sandman
May 14, 2012, 1:21:46 PM5/14/12
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"Scout" <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
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>
>
> "Elwood Brady" <elw...@youpeetwo.com> wrote in message
> news:LI4DYLD641042.5715277778@reece.net.au...
>> No word from Obama or Jesse Jackson.
>>
>> http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/11/justice/florida-stand-ground-
>> sentencing/index.html
>
> It should be noted that in Florida law the firing a gun is considered
> lethal force.
>
> Intentionally firing into the ceiling (which I assume is an
> established fact in the case) is taken as clear evidence that she did
> NOT fear for her life/limb enough to justify the use of lethal force
> or she would not have intentionally fired to miss her assailant.
From what I have read, she fired into a wall......close to where her
children were standing. She was also offered a plea bargain where she
would have recieved a three year sentence, but she refused it and went
with SYG. She lost and the judge had no choice because it is a mandatory
sentence.
> The use of lethal force where isn't not legally justified....is a
> serious offense. Doesn't matter if you are white, black, brown, tan,
> green, or any other color. She committed a crime and that is the way
> the law is written and enforced.
>
> Granted I think it's stupid, but that is the state of the law and your
> color has nothing to do with it.
Bingo!! Mandatory sentencing doesn't look to see if you are black or
white only if you are adjudicated guilty.
news:joppi0$mk3$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>
> "Elwood Brady" <elw...@youpeetwo.com> wrote in message
> news:LI4DYLD641042.5715277778@reece.net.au...
>> No word from Obama or Jesse Jackson.
>>
>> http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/11/justice/florida-stand-ground-
>> sentencing/index.html
>
> It should be noted that in Florida law the firing a gun is considered
> lethal force.
>
> Intentionally firing into the ceiling (which I assume is an
> established fact in the case) is taken as clear evidence that she did
> NOT fear for her life/limb enough to justify the use of lethal force
> or she would not have intentionally fired to miss her assailant.
children were standing. She was also offered a plea bargain where she
would have recieved a three year sentence, but she refused it and went
with SYG. She lost and the judge had no choice because it is a mandatory
sentence.
> The use of lethal force where isn't not legally justified....is a
> serious offense. Doesn't matter if you are white, black, brown, tan,
> green, or any other color. She committed a crime and that is the way
> the law is written and enforced.
>
> Granted I think it's stupid, but that is the state of the law and your
> color has nothing to do with it.
white only if you are adjudicated guilty.
Gray Guest
May 14, 2012, 1:46:35 PM5/14/12
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RD Sandman <rdsandman[spamremove]@comcast.net> wrote in
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Um, not charged her at all?
Since the government issued restrainign order was not working according to
the government issued rules and she clearly flet her life was being
threatened, what should hse have done, waited until the bastard killed her
and scrawled "I told you so" in her own blood?
This is a perfect example of why ther current system needs radical change.
You are a government mandated victim and if you choose not to, the
government will punish you. It is irrational, illogical and immoral.
Suffice to say my opinion of that piece of shit attorny has grubbed to new
lows.
> And it proves that modern education makes you stupid and
>> clueless.
>>
>
>
>
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news:XnsA05368D98...@216.196.121.131:
Since the government issued restrainign order was not working according to
the government issued rules and she clearly flet her life was being
threatened, what should hse have done, waited until the bastard killed her
and scrawled "I told you so" in her own blood?
This is a perfect example of why ther current system needs radical change.
You are a government mandated victim and if you choose not to, the
government will punish you. It is irrational, illogical and immoral.
Suffice to say my opinion of that piece of shit attorny has grubbed to new
lows.
> And it proves that modern education makes you stupid and
>> clueless.
>>
>
>
>
--
RD Sandman
May 14, 2012, 2:55:24 PM5/14/12
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Gray Guest <No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote in
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house. That removes any chance of a self defense claim. When she fired
the gun at her husband she fired it in the direction of her two children
who were standing there.
> Since the government issued restrainign order was not working
> according to the government issued rules and she clearly flet her life
> was being threatened, what should hse have done, waited until the
> bastard killed her and scrawled "I told you so" in her own blood?
house, not gotten her gun and gone back in. She had already retreated
and was getting away when she grabbed her gun and went back in to get her
car keys. If she was truly afraid for her life, she would have kept
going.
> This is a perfect example of why ther current system needs radical
> change. You are a government mandated victim and if you choose not to,
> the government will punish you. It is irrational, illogical and
> immoral.
> Suffice to say my opinion of that piece of shit attorny has grubbed to
> new lows.
>> And it proves that modern education makes you stupid and
>>> clueless.
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