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capitalism will save Everglades from Socialist destruction

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rexitis

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May 18, 2003, 7:02:38 PM5/18/03
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As an attorney in the U.S., I deal with environmental laws including
criminal charges. As I write this, I am about to speak at the Hague to
a Netherlands political party about environmental laws and the Florida
Everglades. Most of North Holland is man-made land reclaimed from the
North Sea. I advocate land reclamation in Florida Bay to expand the
Everglades. I am seeking investors and Dutch expertise for the project.
A proposed Everglades Restoration Corporation (ERC) will create more
aquifer, swamps, marshes, wetlands, beaches, farmland and buildable
areas for bigger populations. It will solve saltwater intrusion by
pushing saltwater out 40 miles or more. It could double the size of the
Everglades.
The project could start in the northeast of Florida Bay, and progress
in a west/southwest direction along the Everglades National Park’s land
boundary. The new Everglades could be bigger than Rhode Island. It could
be the 51st state. If the new land is a free port it could make Hong
Kong look like an overregulated socialist haven! The new everglades
could extend even farther than Key West.
My ancestors helped found Key West and the Curry Mansion is still on
the local tour. Nearby, Smathers Beach is a man-made beach, and one of
Florida’s top ten. As a sixth generation Floridian and a lifelong
resident, I treasure Florida’s environment.
Waterfront property would remain waterfront with space left between old
owners and new land. The project could leave many waterways, including
a cross-state waterway along the present southern border of Florida.
One key to success for the ERC will be to keep government out. Much of
Florida Bay is part of the Everglades National Park, so the Bay needs to
be privatized. Much Florida water is socialized and Florida land is 30
percent socialized (government-owned).
The Everglades prove that socialism is environmentally disastrous.
Government built roads through the Everglades, straightened rivers,
drained wetlands, cut canals, and subsidized cattle and sugar with taxes
and other socialism. The government has already done more damage than
private enterprise could ever have afforded to do.
Government’s restoration plans are costly frauds. Instead of
restoration plans, the Everglades need capitalist expansion plans.
Let’s fight the government’s antidisestablishmentarianism.
The best environment is a capitalist environment. The Everglades prove
that the color of a healthy environment and the color of money are the
same. Mother Nature is a capitalist. Capitalists are the true greens.
ERC’s project should be entirely private. Private water suppliers,
developers, agriculture and everyone else will benefit. Hollands land
reclamation started as private enterprise. So, let’s go Dutch. Anyone
who wants to save the Everglades, should send inquiries below.

yours in liberty,
Rex Curry
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rexa...@hotmail.com
ecu...@interaccess.net

enkryptic1

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May 19, 2003, 8:04:27 PM5/19/03
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I must say, this is quite an odd topic. You both actually believe
that the way to save the everglades or anything for that matter is to
use the capitalist solution. The "capitalist solution" is quite plain
and simple, only if it is profitable. The profitability of a venture
is only measured by it's ability to create wealth in the form of
money. What about the other forms of wealth that are more important
than money? Why should we only reconstruct the everglades when it
becomes profitable? Why can't we just rebuild the everglades because
our environment is suffering and we are obviously consuming beyond the
capacity of our planet? You portray environmentalists and the like as
extremists because they are at odds with the capitalist agenda. What
is extreme about saving our planet from those who would exploit and
cannibalize every last resource just to be overly wealthy? Also, I am
truly sorry you misunderstand nature, mother nature is not a
capitalist and you should really rexamine your thought here.

Capitalism is a cancer on society...a morbid pathology, the polar
opposite of Communism.

Carlos Antunes

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May 20, 2003, 12:09:58 PM5/20/03
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"enkryptic1" <enkry...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Why can't we just rebuild the everglades because
> our environment is suffering and we are obviously consuming beyond the
> capacity of our planet?
>

The environment is suffering!? Eheheheh, that's a good one.

>
> You portray environmentalists and the like as
> extremists because they are at odds with the capitalist agenda.
>

Nope, the reason is that environmentalists are thugs trying to force people
to spend money on projects people don't care about. And for this, they try
to use the guns of Government.

>
> Also, I am truly sorry you misunderstand nature, mother nature is not a
> capitalist and you should really rexamine your thought here.
>

Well, Nature certainly looks capitalistic to me. Have you ever heard of
Natural Selection?

>
> Capitalism is a cancer on society...a morbid pathology, the polar
> opposite of Communism.
>

Ah, you are a communist. So sorry!

Carlos Antunes

Woodard R. Springstube

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May 20, 2003, 5:03:06 PM5/20/03
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enkry...@hotmail.com (enkryptic1) wrote in
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The capitalis solution is to give something an economic value.
If it is valuable, then it will be preserved.

> Capitalism is a cancer on society...a morbid pathology, the
> polar opposite of Communism.

Horse manure. The ecological destruction carried out during
the Communist rule in the former East Bloc countries is
unbelievable. Slovakia, Russia, etc. are ecological
disasters, all created during the Soviet era. It would never
be allowed in a capitalistic country.

No philosophy that has killed as many people as communism can
be good in any way, shape, form or fashion. But, thanks for
showing your true colors. Now everybody knows that you are a
would-be mass murderer.

harvest dancer

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May 20, 2003, 6:47:50 PM5/20/03
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Now this is environmentalism worth doing.

jason

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enkryptic1

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May 21, 2003, 2:21:52 PM5/21/03
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"Woodard R. Springstube" <springst...@Diespammer.net> wrote in message news:<Xns9381A37E749A...@205.197.247.129>...

Wow, way to go, you've avoided the issue completely.

> No philosophy that has killed as many people as communism can
> be good in any way, shape, form or fashion. But, thanks for
> showing your true colors. Now everybody knows that you are a
> would-be mass murderer.


First, you haven't read what I wrote. I am not a communist. By
saying that captialism and communism are both social pathologies, I am
a communist somehow...learn to read. Second, christianity has killed
many more people in it's history than communism. I can't stand people
like you who argue like a little kid. First you spin my post and then
you try to demonize me as some idiot communist, and no one should
listen to a communist nut.

enkryptic1

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May 21, 2003, 2:56:26 PM5/21/03
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"Carlos Antunes" <spam...@sdc.cox.net> wrote in message news:<qrsya.46407$823....@news1.east.cox.net>...

> "enkryptic1" <enkry...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:aab3a1a1.03051...@posting.google.com...
> >
> > Why can't we just rebuild the everglades because
> > our environment is suffering and we are obviously consuming beyond the
> > capacity of our planet?
> >
>
> The environment is suffering!? Eheheheh, that's a good one.

Yes, in fact the environment is suffering. We have to buy drinking
water in the stores, that is most of us can't drink the water out of
the tap in our homes (and this is in America). There is a hole in the
ozone. This too is fact, you can offer some stupid remark about how
it is a cycle and so on, but the hole is getting bigger. The
chemicals from farming are getting into the water streams and water
table. The Smog of Los Angeles, need I say more. And yes, we are
consuming way beyond our basic needs which puts a strain on the
planet's ability to regenerate it's sustainability. If we didn't have
limited natural resources, there would be no such thing as supply and
demand, which is the basis of price levels. Remember this, supply and
demand comes from the imperative that there are unlimited wants and
limited resources. If you missed that then you haven't even taken an
introductory course on economics and you shouldn't be arguing on this
post with topics about economic governance.

> > You portray environmentalists and the like as
> > extremists because they are at odds with the capitalist agenda.
> >
>
> Nope, the reason is that environmentalists are thugs trying to force people
> to spend money on projects people don't care about. And for this, they try
> to use the guns of Government.

Speak for yourself. Most people value the environment. People like
you would rather just exploit it and move on to the next one. What
guns of the government? What the hell are you babbling about?

> > Also, I am truly sorry you misunderstand nature, mother nature is not a
> > capitalist and you should really rexamine your thought here.
> >
>
> Well, Nature certainly looks capitalistic to me. Have you ever heard of
> Natural Selection?

Natural selection is a theory not a law. Here's something for you.
What about when single-celled organisms were the only life on earth?
These different types of organisms had to learn to work together in
order to create complex life. These organisms pooled their collective
resources and joined together physically to create the first plant
life, which gave rise to complex tissues that became organs and so on.
If natural selection had occured way back then, this planet would
still be ruled solely by one type of single celled organism. And by
the way, if you are arguing that capitalism is a social form of
natural selection than you are a lunatic. First, the select wealthy
few created by capitalism get rich off of the hardwork and life's
blood of the laborers. Second, there are only a select few of the
super rich that win out in the capitalist-natural selection scenario.
There are a lot more of us than of you, so when we decide to act out
we will forcibly take your unearned wealth from you.

> > Capitalism is a cancer on society...a morbid pathology, the polar
> > opposite of Communism.
> >
>
> Ah, you are a communist. So sorry!

Ah, you are a capitalist. So sorry! I am against any concentration
of wealth and capital.

> Carlos Antunes

Sorry carlos, you misunderstood, both capitalism and communism are
social pathologies at polar ends of the scale. Maybe it was my
wording, in that case sorry...

Carlos Antunes

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May 21, 2003, 4:53:25 PM5/21/03
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"enkryptic1" <enkry...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> > The environment is suffering!? Eheheheh, that's a good one.
>
> Yes, in fact the environment is suffering.
>

Please, don't make me left even harder!

>
> We have to buy drinking water in the stores, that is most of us
> can't drink the water out of the tap in our homes (and this is in
> America).
>

Contract your drinking water with a better water supplier.

>
> There is a hole in the ozone.
>

So?

>
> And yes, we are
> consuming way beyond our basic needs which puts a strain on the
> planet's ability to regenerate it's sustainability.
>

If you think you are, stop. I don't think I am, though, and I don't think
you have the authority to tell me that I am.

>
> Speak for yourself. Most people value the environment.
>

If you care about the environment, buy the land and preserve it. Just don't
force others into spending their dollars on things they don't care about.

>
> Natural selection is a theory not a law.
>

A theory encompasses laws, you moron.

>
> What about when single-celled organisms were the only life on earth?
>

Yeah, what about them?

>
> These different types of organisms had to learn to work together in
> order to create complex life.
>

No, they didn't. They simply associated themselves with each other because
that would help preserve their individual genes.

>
> If natural selection had occured way back then, this planet would
> still be ruled solely by one type of single celled organism.
>

Bullshit! You have no clue what you talking about. But feel free to
continue, though.

>
> And by the way, if you are arguing that capitalism is a social form of
> natural selection than you are a lunatic.
>

I am a lunatic. Now sue me!

>
> First, the select wealthy few created by capitalism get rich off
> of the hardwork and life's blood of the laborers.
>

Bullshit! Those laborers are free to leave at any time to other employer or
even start their own business.

>
> There are a lot more of us than of you, so when we decide to act out
> we will forcibly take your unearned wealth from you.
>

Thank you for confirming you are a communist thug.

>
> I am against any concentration of wealth and capital.
>

It's none of your business what others make or accumulate. Why don't you
mind your freaking business?

Carlos Antunes

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