Riding the spinners!
Richard Pearlstein
>>While the grand opening of Triceratops Spin has been pushed up to December 1st, acording to Disney Magazine, the park soft opened the ride to the public this week along with their carnival games area. We¹ve been told that vertical construction may have started on the coaster at last and that you can get quite a view of it from the new Trike Spin.<<
Wow! Now WDW can have a "new tradition" similar to riding the mountains at Disneyland: Riding the spinners. The truly kewl can crawl from Dumbo to Aladdin, then over to Trike. Wow! Now if Disney will just put up a spinner in Epcot (say the Mulan Mix-up in China) and one in the Studios (perhaps the Monsters Mingle), we'll have a true spinners marathon.
Golly, wouldn't that be grate?
--Rich
TEEVTEE
in Epcot (say the Mulan Mix-up in China) <<<
Don't joke Rich, I have seen, and this is NOT a joke, concept art for just such
an EPCOT spinner ride. This one themed after Figment and placed out in front
of the Imgination pavilion.
It was several months (6 maybe) ago that I heard of this and hopefully it has
been long passed over, but damn, they HAVE thought about it. After the new
Imagination ride opened and everyone complained of no Figment I think this was
one possible answer to how to get Figment back cheaply, PLUS get another kiddie
attraction in Epcot. It is a scary thought.
You also forgot about The Astro Orbitor which while pretty, is yet ANOTHER
spinny ride. Three in the MK now, one in AK... great.
Teevtee:
Laser Technician
Richard Pearlstein
> You also forgot about The Astro Orbitor which while pretty, is yet ANOTHER
> spinny ride. Three in the MK now, one in AK... great.
>
Indeed I forgot about the Astro Orbiters and, yes, indeed, they're just
another spinner. So, we already have a 4-spinner tour. Add the two I
mentioned earlier, plus your Figgie's Fascinator, and we'll have a 7-spinner
kewl krawl! Wow!
The reason I wrote "grate" instead of "great":
Back when I was a mere yout', a friend moved on a lark (well, really, it was
a volvo) to California. There he met and married a woman who had two kids
and was pregnant with her third. He called home to tell his dad the news
and ask him what he thought. His dad replied "grate, that's gee are ay tee
ee, grate." I've always liked that story. Now my friend has become a great
grandpa (grate gruntpa). How 'bout them yapples?
--Rich
Petey Gold
>grandpa (grate gruntpa). How 'bout them yapples?
I think he needs to take the grandkids on the spinney ride tour.
TravMatte
at last..."
I walked all around the coaster site last month. Not only had vertical
construction started, it seemed to be nearly finished. I just hope they find a
way to theme the superstructure.
TEEVTEE
construction started, it seemed to be nearly finished. I just hope they find a
way to theme the superstructure.
<<<
There is no theming for it whatsoever.
Teevtee:
Laser Technician
~Lisa
"TEEVTEE" <tee...@aol.comwho> wrote in message
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I got to see a bunch of stuff backstage that is for this area. Some large
dino cut outs and some wierd looking statues. Reminded me of DCA.
TEEVTEE
dino cut outs and some wierd looking statues. Reminded me of DCA.<<<
Right, THAT is the theming! I mean if you want to count "The theme is a
crappy, tacky amusement park" as a thme then this baby is themed out the ass!
To me however that equates to no real theme at all.
Teevtee:
Laser Technician
Shane
crappy, tacky amusement park" as a thme then this baby is themed out the ass!
To me however that equates to no real theme at all."
I'm not quite caught up on all the posts yet, so I don't know if someone has
beaten me to the punch (I suspect someone has by the title of the thread, but I
couldn't find the original message). Anyway, I rode the Spinners.
Let me lay it down for you: This Dinorama area (sans coaster) is the most
miserable piece of garbage I have EVER seen in a Disney park. Next to this,
Imagination is award-winning, Doug Live is Tony-worthy, Goosebumps is a cult
classic, and the Big Giant Hat is kinda cute.
Don't believe me, kiddies? Let's start with (of all things) the ground. It is
something you rarely if ever notice in a Disney park, and there's a reason for
that: It blends in perfectly. The sidewalks in MK (especially on Main Street)
are a soft red color, with a dusty gray on the streets. There is nary a crack
to be found. Many of the sidewalks in AK are actually sculpted and imprinted
(Asia being the best of these), and several of the resorts use really nice tile
patterns. Six Flags often has blacktop, which reeks in the hot sun, but is at
least a smooth walking surface.
Dinorama has parking lot asphalt.
No joke, it is bumpy, ugly, and gray. I guess maybe that is it's theme as there
actually IS a "parking lot" themed area off to the right as you approach it
(complete with a dusty old chevy parked in one of the spaces). This theming is
so complete that there are cracks all over the parking lot area. You can not
imagine how horrendous this looks. Also note that this is the ground surface
for the ENTIRE Dinorama section. There is no green area or little islands of
planters anywhere. It is ALL asphalt, with the carny games and the Spinner
sitting right on top.
Now onto the carny games. This is where your eyes widen with horror. Not only
just on principle, because you never thought you'd see boardwalk games in a
Disney park, but in the utter lack of imagination. There is the hammer swing.
The toss-a-ball-in-a-milk-jug. The race track, where you roll balls into holes
to make your wooly mammoth move across the track... these are contained in
standard booths, with the big CHEAP plush prizes hanging all around. At least
IOA had the good graces to come up with a rat catapult and put it in a tent-like
marketplace that blended in better with its surroundings.
Let's talk about the two entrances for just a moment. On the Chester and Hester
side, there is an overhead sign that says "Dinorama" and is held up by a wierd
statue or two (no doubt the same ones Lisa saw). On the opposite end is the
concrete-o-saurus, that I once thought would be the worst part of Dinorama, but
turns out to be its best. Not that it is GOOD, mind you, but at least she looks
cute and the orange paint job is well done. Oh, by the way, notice how I called
it a she? That is because on the underbelly of the dinosaur (which you walk
under), there are two rows of three neatly spaced knobby light fixtures that
look exactly like teats.
Now for the piece de resistance: Triceratops Spin. I can tell you this, it
makes the Carpets look like freakin Haunted Mansion in terms of theming. The
structure is GIGANTIC and loud to boot, with hydrolic hisses and such as the
ride starts up. It seems to have the exact same number of vehicles as the
Carpets, with the same functions, although I think the controls are the reverse
of what the carpets are. There is no variation among the trikes (man how I wish
they farted or something). Furthermore, there is virtually no detail on them at
all. They are ALL a solid green color, with maybe a different color paint for
the eyes and tongue. What looks like pebble-y skin from the queue turns out to
be not molded fiberglass, not even paint, but a freaking STICKER when you get up
close.
The ride itself: The back seat controls your height, the front pitches you
forward and backward. There are NO spitting camels or anything. Visual
excitement comes from two sources: 1) as your trike rises, another little trike
pops out of a hatch on the surface of the top. 2) A few meteors rotate around
the top of the top in the reverse direction that you are heading. There is no
music that I recall at all (Aladdin at least had a few tunes). All of which
leads to a Dumbo-esque experience except for one thing, which has to be one of
the most boneheaded manuevers ever:
Let's say you can accept the fact that Disney is going cheap on Dinorama. Let's
say you can deal with yet another Dumbo clone. Let's even say that the themed
elements on the ride don't even mean anything to you. At the very least, a
spinning ride like this will provide you with one bonafide, tiny, eligible
thrill: You get to go in circles up in the air. Guess what. For half the
ride, you're basically at ground level.
Now before you start arguing with me that you've seen videos or whatever, let me
backtrack for a moment and explain the queue. It's massive: Twice the size of
Dumbo's or Carpet's, with no interesting details whatsoever (Carpets has a
sandstone wall, at least, and Dumbo has the whole circus tent look). this is
simply a switchback queue with painted poles holding up a metal roof. The queue
of course partly encircles the attraction (about 180 degrees around it; roughly
half, for those that don't know geometry) -- what all this means is that when
you're in your trike, for half of every rotation, you're going past the queue.
No different from the carpets really. But let's say you make your trike fly.
Great, you now have a bird-level view of... the queue roof. For literally
Half. The. Ride. And this is not just your ordinary roof. This is genuine
imported corrugated sheet metal roof. With black electrical cables snaking over
it. If you look across the roof, you know, to see out over the wonder that is
Dinorama, you find your view blocked by generic plywood cutouts nailed to the
queue entrance. The BACKside of these cutouts, I mean.
There was an Imagineer on site and an AK supervisor at the ride when I rode it.
We got on one day before their official opening. The supervisor had the
misfortune to ask me how I enjoyed my spin. I spit on him.
But seriously, he got an earful, to which he replied "This is not a knock on you
but this ride is intended for the four and under crowd. There's a new ride
going in over there that I think you'll find more to your liking." At this I
had to laugh. "Is it themed?" I asked. "Oh yeah, it's themed." "Oh," I
replied confidently, "you mean like Big Thunder Mountain?"
At this point, he literally walked away from me to help the ride operator.
Thus endeth my last ever experience in Dinorama.
Shane
Aye-Lye-Kake
TEEVTEE
<<<
As horrible as dinorama is it has three things going for it:
1) It is small
2) is it in an otherwise great park
3) though the theme is lame and cheap it does have some themed thought behind
it.
Paradise Pier ar DCA on the other hand is HUGE (fully a third of the park), is
surrounded by other bad stuff and has no theme at all other than (low cost
generic attraction).
Disney is really delivering top quality experiences these days huh!
Teevtee:
Laser Technician
~Lisa
> Let's talk about the two entrances for just a moment. On the Chester and
Hester
> side, there is an overhead sign that says "Dinorama" and is held up by a
wierd
> statue or two (no doubt the same ones Lisa saw). On the opposite end is
the
> concrete-o-saurus, that I once thought would be the worst part of
Dinorama, but
> turns out to be its best. Not that it is GOOD, mind you, but at least she
looks
> cute and the orange paint job is well done. Oh, by the way, notice how I
called
> it a she? That is because on the underbelly of the dinosaur (which you
walk
> under), there are two rows of three neatly spaced knobby light fixtures
that
> look exactly like teats.
I have pix of the three things, but you can only see what shows over the
fence. Do you have better ones? We also noticed the asphalt and my comment
was along the lines of "they must've built this thing on a parking lot" but
NEVER did it occur to me that they'd KEEP it the way it was! This is
terrible.
Kitty Kitty Kitty
miserable piece of garbage I have EVER seen in a Disney park. >>
Have you been to CA Adventure yet?
Denise
Petey Gold
>you
>but this ride is intended for the four and under crowd. There's a new ride
>going in over there that I think you'll find more to your liking."
You know, I really have to admire these guys who can find the bright spot in
day to day park operations......age-specific rides,
I know Walt would have wanted this if he had only thought about it.
>Dinorama has parking lot asphalt.
Asphalt dates from the cretaceous period,
although when I saw it in the summer I could have sworn it was a running track.
Shane
although when I saw it in the summer I could have sworn it was a running track."
Oooooh... I'm so sad to say this, but I know exactly what you're talking about.
There is a "road" that skirts around the outside of Dinorama, complete with
yellow lines down the middle. This is all part of the "theme." Yet,
incredibly, the fake road has a more smooth surface surface than the asphalt
that covers the actual Dinorama area. The road is blacker. Dinorama's is a
dull gray.
Shane
Aye-Lye-Kake
TEEVTEE
day to day park operations......age-specific rides,
I know Walt would have wanted this if he had only thought about it.
<<<
Have you read about the Bug's Fair crap going in DCA. If that is true (I
believe it is) we are talking about rides aimed soley at 4 year olds which are
on par with the stuff in the Mall of America. It is yet another new low for
Disney. Compare it to the stunning photos of Indy at TDS and you will realize
how poorly the U.S. parks really are being run.
<< Asphalt dates from the cretaceous period,
although when I saw it in the summer I could have sworn it was a running track.
>>
I HATE the idea of asphalt, but atleast the theme of Dinoland is sort of being
upheld. I mean afterall, from square one, the theme has not been the pas but
the present as exploited by tacky profiteers (Disney?). Chester and Hesters
has always had this theme and while the carny crap is unforgivable it is still
light years beyound the massive carny section of DCA. There there us literaly
no theme whatsoever. They are simply generic carny rides sitting on asphalt by
a road....
Teevtee:
Laser Technician
Shane
unforgivable it is still light years beyound the massive carny section of DCA.
There there us literaly no theme whatsoever.>>
Actually, I don't think it is LIGHT YEARS beyond. I think it merely a choice
between vomit with chunks or without. Yes, DCA may technically be worse, but
they are both horrifically bad. Even Paradise Pier has a "theme": Old
boardwalk. I mean, that is no theme whatsoever, but neither really is Dinorama,
other than dinosaur carny park. The Chester and Hester shop is wonderfully
done. Dinorama is not.
Shane
Aye-Lye-Kake
TEEVTEE
boardwalk. I mean, that is no theme whatsoever, but neither really is
Dinorama,
other than dinosaur carny park. The Chester and Hester shop is wonderfully
done. Dinorama is not.<<<
I have not seen Dinorama, you have not seen DCA. But trust me when I tell you
there is no "Old Boardwalk" feel or theme to the CRAP in Paradise Pier.
I mean even an Old Boardwalk theme would be something to go from. Richly
detailed turn of the century facdes, a little aging, retor graphics and colors.
A Main Street like feel mixed in with seashore sensibility. But this is
NOTHING like that, nothing at all. This is exactly the same as my local Six
Flags "County Fair" land execpt it has far fewer and smaller attractions.
There is NO detail "Just giant white steel supports. They did not even bother
laying a boarwalk around most of the area. The actual boards just circle the
perimeter of it, the majority is simply concrete.
So you are ledt with honestly just carnival games and rides with garish signage
and no surrounding theme at all.
As bad as Dinorama must be it atleast is contained in an area that IS themed
and is nothing else some of that must rub off by osmosis. It's the difference
between being in a really nice house and then the bathroom is decorated very
ugly, and being in a horribly ugly house where EVERYTHING is cheap and poorly
done. Yea, the bathroom of the first house sucks but atleast the house is
nice.
Teevtee:
Laser Technician
Shane
there is no "Old Boardwalk" feel or theme to the CRAP in Paradise Pier."
I trust you, my man. I'm sure DCA is so much crappier simply because of sheer
scale. But you should also believe me when I tell you Dinorama is NOT themed in
the least, not even by osmosis. Yes, the spinner has some dinosaurs on it, but
the Orange stinger had some bees on it too, and oranges grow in California, so
thus, it fits perfectly! You see what I'm saying? There is NOTHING to indicate
that Dinorama is something that Chester and Hester built to capitalize on the
dino dig nearby. I'm serious, there's no clever jokes that make it look like a
tourist trap or anything of that nature. It is simply midway booths (that look
exactly like normal midway booths) and a spinner ride that has some dinos on it.
The closest thing to theming is the concrete-o-saurus. It is a disgrace to even
use the word "theme" in conjunction with either Dinorama OR Paradise Pier. In
fact, Paradise Pier may even have the upper hand! That Maliboomer has little
point gauges on it, just like one of those hammer games! And Mulholland Madness
has a street sign or what have you. I mean, they are both just the lowest of
the low, but DCA has more.
Shane
Aye-Lye-Kake
Petey Gold
> The road is blacker.
Well, obviously this is an allusion to the La Brea Tar Pits, where it is
thought that swimming creatures first crawled up on land.and evolved into the
dinos we know today. The yellow lines suggest the orderly progression of
species. Where the carny booths fit in I don't know.
One good thing about this area.....it is not that easy to stumble upon
especially if you take the entrance as the exit to CTX/Dinosaur and keep away
from the Boneyard.
TEEVTEE
the Orange stinger had some bees on it too, and oranges grow in California, so
thus, it fits perfectly! <<<
You know, I never thought of that... You have convinced me Shane, you are
correct, DCA is a really well themed park after all! You rock dude!
No, serioulsy I do agree, it is very sad that Disney has sunk to the level they
have. Unthemed carnival rides and pay per play midway games... and we are
worried about which is worse! A punch in the face, a kick in the groin... they
both suck big time.
Teevtee:
Laser Technician
Richard Pearlstein
park has Disney created the worst travesty of its former glory? Sad, ain't
it?
--Rich
KTREALTORS
>thought that swimming creatures first crawled up on land.and evolved into the
>dinos we know today. The yellow lines suggest the orderly progression of
>species. Where the carny booths fit in I don't know.
Let me help you here. Carny's are decendants of Carnivores. Something you
don't hear much about in scientific circles is how brutal the young T-Rexs were
in grade school. Lunch money bullys today have nothing on these guys. Brutal
stuff. I think there is a series about this on Fox....When Carny's Go Bad....or
something like that.
Kerry
The road goes on forever and the party never ends.
Shane
especially if you take the entrance as the exit to CTX/Dinosaur and keep away
from the Boneyard."
Unfortunately, this is not the case. Before they started construction, the area
was more secluded, but now, the FIRST thing you see in Dinoland (after the Olden
Gate) is that giant Top. Dinorama is MUCH easier to find than CTX. It is
looming straight ahead as you walk in.
Shane
Aye-Lye-Kake
Shane
Here's hoping the Carny-taurus ends up in Dinoland...
Shane
Aye-Lye-Kake
TEEVTEE
<<<
Whats funny is things as simple as clever names WOULD help. I mean some fun
signage, some tie ins with Chester and Hester, maybe some "streetmosphere" of
guys playing Chester and Hester. I mean you could start to pull some weak
theme together... they seemingly did not even try.
Teevtee:
Laser Technician
DuaneDude1
for a re-run of the situation where people assume that Diz ownd fred & barney?
Aren't the 'stones in Six flags still?
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Six Flags is affiliated with Warner Bros.
Kings Island used to have Hanna Barbara affiliation, but I don't know if that
changed completely when Paramount bought them.
They have Nickelodian now.
Universal used to have a Hanna Barbara simulator, plus Woody Woodpecker.
But they also have Fievel.
Cedar Fair has the Peanuts gang.
Disney is affiliated with some sort of animation, but I forget what.
Shane
Aye-Lye-Kake
Richard Pearlstein
> Let me help you here. Carny's are decendants of Carnivores. Something you
> don't hear much about in scientific circles is how brutal the young T-Rexs
> were
> in grade school. Lunch money bullys today have nothing on these guys. Brutal
> stuff. I think there is a series about this on Fox....When Carny's Go
> Bad....or
> something like that.
Actually, carnival comes from the French phrase "char naval," which means
"burned belly button." In olden France, vehicles (les voitures) in street
parades were lit with torches (les lumieres). Parade goers who, in their
excitement, got too close to les voitures received les char navals from les
lumieres. N'est-ce pas, mes amis?
--Reesh
Cindy Hyde
as there
actually IS a "parking lot" themed area off to the right as you approach it
(complete with a dusty old chevy parked in one of the spaces). This theming
is
so complete that there are cracks all over the parking lot area. You can
not
imagine how horrendous this looks. Also note that this is the ground
surface
It probably is on purpose...you know that fast food restaurant in MGM next
to Star Tours and behind Indiana Jones? It is themed like a mechanic's
garage and I don't like to eat in there because it seems dirty...it's not,
but it's themed that way ...
TEEVTEE
to Star Tours and behind Indiana Jones? It is themed like a mechanic's
garage and I don't like to eat in there because it seems dirty...it's not,
but it's themed that way ...<<<
I agree, Shane does not know much about themeing so he probably thought it was
a mistake!
Ah, the poor boy has lots to learn.
Teevtee:
Laser Technician
Petey Gold
>to Star Tours and behind Indiana Jones? It is themed like a mechanic's
>garage and I don't like to eat in there because it seems dirty
I think that's because the props are dirty, but you can make the best bag salad
in there.
Meeko1520
>to Star Tours and behind Indiana Jones? It is themed like a mechanic's
>garage and I don't like to eat in there because it seems dirty...it's not,
>but it's themed that way ...
Funny, the Backlot Express has to be one of my favorite fast food restaurants
in WDW.
Peter
Maria
writes:
>Actually, I don't think it is LIGHT YEARS beyond. I think it merely a choice
>between vomit with chunks or without.
I love that line.....I may have to use it one day.
Maria
Maria
Poorly Animated-Man
>I trust you, my man. I'm sure DCA is so much crappier simply because of sheer
scale.
Did you ever imagine, say 8 years ago, that there would come a time when there
would be a debate over what Disney park/attraction is "crappiest".....how could
things have gotten so bad........
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TravMatte
At first, I didn't understand this. But, when I sawdotted lines and Route
signs I got it: it's a ROAD! Dinorama is supposed to appear like one of those
family amusement parks you encounter when on long summer trips with your
family.
>...let's say you make your trike fly.
Aside from the grotesque lack of theming in Dinoland, this spinner's
choice of animal has me befuddled. Triceratops was a land animal. It never had
the ability to fly. WHY DIDN'T DIZ USE A FLYING DINOSAUR FOR THIS RIDE- LIKE
THE TERRADACTYL? Do you really think they were concerned about looking like
they were copying IOA's elevated track ride? I hope not.
TravMatte
Top.
Even with the construction fence in place, I could see the garish
yellow-green color of this clear from the Bug entrance. I've never seen
anything so out of place in a Diz park. It's even worse than the Hat!
TravMatte
What do you mean? That you can place a few topping items into a paper cup
and eat them as you tour the park? My brother Chris and I love to do this every
time he walks through the Electric Umbrella. A few pickle and tomato slices can
hold one over until mealtime!
Petey Gold
> What do you mean? That you can place a few topping items into a paper cup
>and eat them as you tour the park?
Oh, okay. A few.
TEEVTEE
THE TERRADACTYL? Do you really think they were concerned about looking like
they were copying IOA's elevated track ride? I hope not. <<<
I've asked myself the same question. My best guess is that these little trike
cars were cheaper to build.
Teevtee:
Laser Technician
Brian Chevrier
news:20011203065612...@mb-cf.aol.com...
>
> Aside from the grotesque lack of theming in Dinoland, this spinner's
> choice of animal has me befuddled. Triceratops was a land animal. It never
had
> the ability to fly. WHY DIDN'T DIZ USE A FLYING DINOSAUR FOR THIS RIDE-
LIKE
> THE TERRADACTYL? Do you really think they were concerned about looking
like
> they were copying IOA's elevated track ride? I hope not.
Maybe they thought it was a play on words. The ride is designed to look
like one of those old-fashioned tops made of stamped sheet metal. The name
of the ride is "TriceraTOP Spin" or some such, isn't it?
It was a nice touch that the Trike cars and meteors had faux fold-over metal
tabs holding the two halves together, much like a stamped sheet metal toy
from the sixties would. Unfortunately the majority of their audience
probably will not recognize this, having never owned a toy from that era.
Personally, I thought the ride itself was pretty nicely done, with good
attention to detail. That being said, I think spinner rides suck and the
overall theming of Dinoland is starting to look like a watered-down version
of the Seuss area in IOA. Maybe it's the garish colors that make me think
of IOA.
-- BC
Maria
<bche...@nospambigfoot.com> writes:
>I think spinner rides suck and the
>overall theming of Dinoland is starting to look like a watered-down version
>of the Seuss area in IOA. Maybe it's the garish colors that make me think
>of IOA.
If it looked like IOA I'd love it. IOA, over my last few visits to Orlando, has
become our family's favorite theme park in Orlando. That's coming from a family
who had AP's at WDW for 2 years in a row, and made 8 visits to Orlando in 2
years time.
Maria
TEEVTEE
attention to detail.<<<
Considering how much Shane HATED this I am surprised to hear some one like it
and feel it was so well detailed.
Teevtee:
Laser Technician
~Lisa
> like one of those old-fashioned tops made of stamped sheet metal. The
name
> of the ride is "TriceraTOP Spin" or some such, isn't it?
I'm too young to have had one of these, but I know what you're talking about
and yes, I had the same thought when I saw the top of it sticking over the
fence.
I don't like IOA and while we've discussed that park to death over the
years, I'll say I'm disappointed to see something that looks like it belongs
over there in the AK. What crap.
TEEVTEE
and yes, I had the same thought when I saw the top of it sticking over the
fence.
<<<
how old are you? 12?
Teevtee:
Laser Technician
~Lisa
about
> and yes, I had the same thought when I saw the top of it sticking over the
> fence.
> <<<
>
> how old are you? 12?
Of course not. There was a top like this at grammie's house, but it wasn't
purchased new just for me. I have an older cousin, so maybe it was his. In
any event, it was one of my favorite toys.
Disneybrad
news:TPKP7.38795$Y11.13...@typhoon.columbus.rr.com...
>
> Maybe they thought it was a play on words. The ride is designed to look
> like one of those old-fashioned tops made of stamped sheet metal. The
name
> of the ride is "TriceraTOP Spin" or some such, isn't it?
>
> It was a nice touch that the Trike cars and meteors had faux fold-over
metal
> tabs holding the two halves together, much like a stamped sheet metal toy
> from the sixties would. Unfortunately the majority of their audience
> probably will not recognize this, having never owned a toy from that era.
>
I noticed those things as well, plus how the top of it spins and even has
screw threads on it as it moves up and down.
For all that the ride it, really has some neat details. It was when I saw it
in person that the name made seance and is in some ways quite clever.
Shane
and feel it was so well detailed.>>
BC and I discussed this for a bit yesterday and I have straightened him out. He
wishes it to be known that he was completely wrong and that he has acquiesced to
my insistence that the ride sucked. To exact this retraction, I only had to pay
$89.
Okay, seriously, he did mention that the ride has music now and recorded
instructions, which it did NOT when I rode. Not that I think it will have
swayed my opinion, but it was apparently not complete. I still think that it is
an insulting attraction to have in a Disney park, and is still the single worst
thing I have ever beheld in WDW -- hat and wand included.
Shane
Aye-Lye-Kake
TEEVTEE
an insulting attraction to have in a Disney park, and is still the single worst
thing I have ever beheld in WDW -- hat and wand included.
<<<
Shane, I think you are missing the idea here.
You see it is like a giant top... like those old tin tops you may have seen as
a kid. When you factor in that, plus the music and the themeing tie ins with
Chester and Hesters you see, that in reality, it ends up still being a piece of
crap... nevermind.
Teevtee:
Laser Technician
Poorly Animated-Man
>........ the themeing tie ins with
Chester and Hesters you see, that in reality, it ends up still being a piece of
And thats the problem...the theming choice sucks...."Hey the theme is
cheesy....and would ya look at that we succeeded!!" I mean its an excuse to be
cheap...."Well see its supposed to look that way because that's the theme." So
Dinoland will never be cool...because any coolness would disturb their "theme".
Yeah whatever.......
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cheesy....and would ya look at that we succeeded!!" I mean its an excuse to be
cheap...."Well see its supposed to look that way because that's the theme." So
Dinoland will never be cool...because any coolness would disturb their "theme".
Yeah whatever.......<<<
Man, I don't want to sound like I am defending the carny crap at all because I
am not... but atleast Dinoland has some sort of theme, even if that theme is
"cheap roadside attraction". As we see in other parts of the land like the
McDonald's mega restaraunt or the actual; Chester and Hester's shop... that
theme CAN be clever and well done. It would be wuite possible to continue to
put witty, fun and well themed thing in there. They chose not to, they chose
to go the super cheap route. But Paradise Pier in DCA is far worse. As
Shane's sig. used to say, the "theme" is amusement park. By that standard that
any Six Flags is more fully themed than Paradise Pier which is a jumbled
collection of unthemed attractions along an unthemed stretch of a mostly
unthemed park... sad.
Teevtee:
Laser Technician
Richard Pearlstein
Ray, on Dinoland: "Hey the theme is cheesy....and would ya look at that we
succeeded!!"
Teev, on Dinoland: "The theme is 'cheap roadside attaction'"
Well, I won't split hairs as fine as my alter-Teev-egos, but the common
theme is clear: cheap, cheesy amusement park. Disney invented theme parks
or, at least, put them on the map with the antithesis to cheap, cheesy
amusement parks.
But, hey, CCAPs have been around for longer than Disneyland. The public has
demonstrated its liking for CCAPs since the 1800's. So, Disney has seen the
light. Theme parks are but a fleeting fancy, albeit a 45-50 year one.
CCAPs, though, are here to last. So, to please public taste and return the
company to profitability, Disney is converting all the parks that it owns to
CCAPs. The transition began quite slowly, but now it is picking up speed.
--Rich
Brian Chevrier
"Shane" <shan...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:tQ4Q7.52769$xS6....@www.newsranger.com...
> BC and I discussed this for a bit yesterday and I have straightened him
out. He
> wishes it to be known that he was completely wrong and that he has
acquiesced to
> my insistence that the ride sucked. To exact this retraction, I only had
to pay
> $89.
>
> Okay, seriously, he did mention that the ride has music now and recorded
> instructions, which it did NOT when I rode. Not that I think it will have
> swayed my opinion, but it was apparently not complete. I still think that
it is
> an insulting attraction to have in a Disney park, and is still the single
worst
> thing I have ever beheld in WDW -- hat and wand included.
>
"Discussed this for a bit" = several harassing phone calls in which Shane
demanded to speak to my manager. I finally retracted my original opinion
just to get him off the phone. Now I hear there's a thread on RADP about
whether he should have felt entitled to receive a free upgrade to a
premium-level retraction.
In all fairness to Shane, the ride experience provided by the Trike Spinner
*does* suck. The parks don't need another spinner ride, and the fact that
all you get to see from the ride is asphalt and a queue roof *is* a major
detraction from any enjoyment the ride could have provided.
But as far as it being the single worst thing to behold in a Disney park, I
can't agree. (I'd reserve that distinction for the carny games surrounding
the Trike Spinner... and if I ever make the trip to DCA I imagine that I
might even change my mind about that).
The spinner itself is, IMHO, a nicely crafted (aside from the setting) and
well-built implementation of a bland and boring type of ride. Shane said he
thought the dinosaur skin texture on the individual triceratops was a
sticker. I felt the side of the car and couldn't feel any evidence of that.
To me it looked like the dinosaur skin was silk-screened on. Not sure if
that's doable on fiberglass, but that's what it looked and felt like.
Overall I thought the ride (not the queue, not the surrounding area, not the
overall ride experience, but the mechanical ride itself) was in keeping with
the quality you'd like to expect in a Disney park. As I mentioned in an
earlier post, making the ride look like a giant tin toy was a cute idea,
too.
I'm not defending the decision to put in yet another spinner. In fact,
Shane's description of this as "an insulting attraction" is probably the
most apt way to describe it, given what little entertainment value it
provides. All I'm saying is that the ride does have some redeeming
qualities, even if overall it deserves a thumbs-down.
Oh, and one last question for Shane... why did the $89 you paid me consist
of 89 one dollar bills, each folded lengthwise?
-- BC
Petey Gold
>whether he should have felt entitled to receive a free upgrade to a
>premium-level retraction.
RADP is the group that aspires to be like fl. attractions.
The useless arguments they engage in are dealt with far better here, for
instance, if Shane doesn't like Triceratops Spin we simply tie him up under the
ride until he agrees. And if you think it's good, we tie you up underneath
until you change your mind.
That whole primeval spinning soup section is a disgrace to Animal Kingdom, and
I don't have to pay a visit there to know that they could have had something
wonderful in that spot dealing with dinosaurs or mythical creatures but did not
want to invest the money or the time.
Poorly Animated-Man
>...As we see in other parts of the land like the
McDonald's mega restaraunt or the actual; Chester and Hester's shop... that
theme CAN be clever and well done.
I agree...and let me just say I haven't seen this new area of Dinoland but I
did like the exisiting area, but one has to wonder if the idea to theme
Dinoland as a "cheap roadside attraction" was not to be clever etc but as an
easy means for cheap expansion "Eh we can throw some cheap shit in there later,
it'll go with the theme and we can say Look New Attractions. We'll put Beastly
Kingdom off for as long as possible cause that may require some actual thought
and money."
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qualities, even if overall it deserves a thumbs-down.<<<
See, I know what you are saying but it is STILL being too kind to Disney. It
is like an argument I hear for DCA from time to time, that parts of it ARE well
themed and that it is better than Six Flags. Well sure, I mean most of the
Paradise Pier attractions are built fairly well, and even have some details not
found on more generic counterparts. Sure, Gruzzly Peak is nice looking from
certain angles and so on. But the overall experience is really what we need to
look at, the sum of the parts. In the case of DCA is fails miserably... the
total is actualy LESS than the sum of it's parts and clean carny games may be
better than dirty ones... but they are still just carny games. Dino Spin &
most of Paradise Pier or slaps in the face to everything Disney used to stand
for, and just because they are made more nicely than the worst you could do
does not change that.
Teevtee:
Laser Technician
Petey Gold
It was shown last night during the Parent Trap movie, and it looked pretty
junky and cluttered......in fact, they showed several of the spinning rides
last night, must be the wave of the future.
Shane
because that's the theme.">>
Ray, you need to come see my house sometime! Each room has it's own theme. The
kitchen's theme is "Kitchen." Here you'll find exciting kitchen appliances like
a microwave, refrigerator, and dishwasher (though I hear those things are evil).
My Garage is called "Storage Space Square." Awaiting you here are artful
arrangements of pegboards with exciting tools, lawn equipment, and my car,
Shane's House's premiere E-ticket attraction.
In Bedroomland, guests will board 2-person beds to the land of sleep, before
they are rudely awakened by Captain Alarm Clock.
Bathroom World is still under construction...
Shane
Aye-Lye-Kake
Shane
lengthwise?"
Because TEEV has my underoos, which contain all my 1-dollar bills folded into
paper footballs...
Shane
Aye-Lye-Kake
KTREALTORS
>arrangements of pegboards with exciting tools, lawn equipment, and my car,
>Shane's House's premiere E-ticket attraction.
Interesting. If we go through this attraction and a tool is missing, is there
perhaps an outline on the pegboard to remind us what tool is supposed to be
there?
I also noticed you didn't say what the admission price was....
Kerry
The road goes on forever and the party never ends.
~Lisa
Because it's $89, silly!
TravMatte
stamped sheet metal. The name of the ride is "TriceraTOP Spin" or some such,
isn't it?
Yes, it did look like that. Even so, Diz could have used an even better
pun for this ride- "Dino-Soar." I thought that this would be a great name for
the Uni track ride, but Diz could have nicely tied it to its movie, and
returned CTX to its original name.
TravMatte
included.
You'll have to amend this when Primeval Whirl opens in a few months. They
showed a study model of it on the local news shows when Dinoland opened. It
looks like a giant, three-dimensional PINBALL MACHINE!
And I loved the way Joe Rohde described Dinoland at the dedication...
"..It's not lofty, just loopy." I wonder how much liquor he had to consume when
he returned to his hotel?
Shane
>showed a study model of it on the local news shows when Dinoland opened. It
>looks like a giant, three-dimensional PINBALL MACHINE!
You are in luck! wdwmagic.com has a picture of this very study model.
Personally, I would like to strangle the supervisor who assured me this thing
would be themed (even though I knew better). The ride itself could be fun, in a
purely rolly-coaster sense, but it just kills me to see it in this form in a
Disney park. Honestly, is it really THAT hard to theme these things?
Anyway, here's the link:
http://www.wdwmagic.com/dinorama/whirl.jpg
Shane
Aye-Lye-Kake
TEEVTEE
purely rolly-coaster sense, but it just kills me to see it in this form in a
Disney park.<<<
Sorry to tell you but this is a clone of the horrible little mad mouse coaster
at DCA and it sucks from ANY perspective, even a pure rolley coster one. I
will say however, and you will not like this, after seeing shots of Dinorama it
is no where near as bad LOOKING as I expected. I mean it is so over the top
cheesy that to me atleast it looks intentional and kind of fun. Now I am in no
way suggesting it should be there, but it is colorful and indeed looks like a
roadside attraction. While compared to Paradise Pier which is simply a
standard carnival on a much larger scale I can live with Dinoland.
Teevtee:
Mind reading hype machine.
Shane
at DCA and it sucks from ANY perspective, even a pure rolley coster one.>>
The track may be a clone. This one is a spinning wild mouse, which means the
cars are sort of like teacups. I believe the DCA version is a straight-up wild
mouse.
Regardless, I agree that it looks like a piece of crap.
Shane
Aye-Lye-Kake
Poorly Animated-Man
>Ray, you need to come see my house sometime! Each room has it's own theme.
Sounds great Shane...but I don't know if I want to make the trip...but
wait...is there a parade? I'd travel through the bowels of hell to see a
parade!!!