Can anyone tell me the exact size of Disneyland Paris's Magic Kingdom?
Gorok190
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TEEVTEE
Thanks.<<<
The actual Magic Kingdom in Paris is 136 acres. The total resort is about
1,480 acres.
To put that in rough perspective:
WDW is about 27,170 acres in total, the MK is about 106 acres... a tad more
with toon town fair.
Tokyo DL is about 114 acres, and the tiny original DL is about 74 acres.
There ya go, the Paris park is the largest Magic Kingdom to date.
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Gorok190
Thanks Teev, but I have another question.
>The total resort is about 1,480 acres.
That's just the currently developed area, right? As is this:
>WDW is about 27,170 acres in total
TEEVTEE
>The total resort is about 1,480 acres.
That's just the currently developed area, right? As is this:
>WDW is about 27,170 acres in total >>
No, those are grand total sizes. the 1500 acres in Paris and 27,000 in Florida
represent ALL of the land, not just that developed. Now in the case of Paris I
know they have shuffled a few things around to get a bit more land, but that
will be used for non theme park use. Likewise WDW moved some land around when
Celebration was built, I am not sure how it affects the totals. But generaly
speaking those totals are what they have.
Even the 1500 acres in France is HUGE compared to what theme parks or even
resorts typicaly have. Remember, most parks have a few hundred acres if they
are very lucky, 100 or so is more normal...and that's 100 TOTAL.
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resorts typicaly have. Remember, most parks have a few hundred acres if they
are very lucky, 100 or so is more normal...and that's 100 TOTAL.<<<
For some reason, TEEV, I was pretty convinced that they had closer to about
3,000 acres in France. I'm pretty solid on that. You might want to
re-check...
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Gorok190
>For some reason, TEEV, I was pretty convinced that they had closer to about
>3,000 acres in France. I'm pretty solid on that. You might want to
>re-check...
Well, see, now I'm confused. I asked Teev if he meant the developed land only
because the book I have says "Disneyland Paris resides on a 1,943-hectare
(5,000-acre) site one-fifth the size of the city itself." I think they mean
Paris. But anyway, that's what it says. Plus, I thought WDW owned 35,000 acres.
Could be wrong. As for the other parks, I heard DL was 83 acres and TDL was 150
acres. Like I said, I could be wrong but that's what I heard on my end. I just
didn't know how big DLP is.
TEEVTEE
3,000 acres in France. I'm pretty solid on that. You might want to
re-check...<<<
>>>Well, see, now I'm confused. I asked Teev if he meant the developed land
only
because the book I have says "Disneyland Paris resides on a 1,943-hectare
(5,000-acre) site one-fifth the size of the city itself." I think they mean
Paris. But anyway, that's what it says. Plus, I thought WDW owned 35,000 acres.
Could be wrong. As for the other parks, I heard DL was 83 acres and TDL was 150
acres. Like I said, I could be wrong but that's what I heard on my end. I just
didn't know how big DLP is.<<<
OK, I will re-check the French numbers, all of those numbers are off the top of
my head so I could be off, but I think I'm pretty solid. The French numbers
Arsto has may include the residential area they added plans for a dew years
back. This was not part of the proginal land and really has nothing to do with
the resort... sort of like including Celebration in the WDW total, I did not
include it.
As for the minor differences you are seeing in books Drew, that is because
there is no rock solid universal way to count the acreage. Some people include
the parking lot space for example... I did not. I think the numbers I gave you
are about as close to accurate for the actual parks as you will find but I will
look them up on the official plans just to make sure.
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LtheP
>(5,000-acre) site one-fifth the size of the city itself." I think they mean
>Paris.
Drew, DLP doesn't actually reside in Paris. It's in city called
Marne-la-valle.
Gorok190
>look them up on the official plans just to make sure.
>
>
Thanks Teev. I do believe that the book was counting all the land owned by DLP
including the area going to their new Celebration-esque town, Val D'Europe and
later expansion. It also said that at the time DLP first opened, they had
planned to finish the whole resort expansion by 2017. I'm sure it take much
longer than that now.
Gorok190
>Marne-la-valle.
I know, I was saying that the book probably meant the land Disneyland Paris
owned was one-fifth the size of Paris.
TEEVTEE
DLP
including the area going to their new Celebration-esque town, Val D'Europe and
later expansion. It also said that at the time DLP first opened, they had
planned to finish the whole resort expansion by 2017. I'm sure it take much
longer than that now. >>
I still have not had the time to check Drew, but I think you are probably
correct that the larger number you have (what book is that from?) must include
the town. I also bet you are correct that total expansion will be a bit longer
than they first predicted.
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Gorok190
>correct that the larger number you have (what book is that from?) must
>include
>the town.
Insight Guides France. It must have been published shortly before they changed
EuroDisney to Disneyland Paris because the copyright is 1994. I believe their
information probably comes from the press releases made when the park first
opened and the future there was more optimistic. Here's what it says about the
expansion:
"Whilst the whole site will not be fully developed until 2017, when there will
be an MGM studio theme park, new golf course and more hotels, the present
resort is impressive enough."
As for their Celebration town, Val D'Europe, I found a really cool master plan
photo and info on this page:
http://members.xoom.com/filipv/news.htm
The main info on the page is English, but the info on the pics are French, :(.
Sorry. But it does look like they are going to use a lot of land for the town.
Screamscape says, "Val D'Europe which has been described to me as another
Celebration will be designed by Disney for 20,000 people." Not sure how much
room that would take, but if it is like Celebration, they will leave room for
the town to expand.
TravMatte
I believe that the complex now covers about 30,000. The extra acreage
includes the Disney Conservancy, which the company was forced to buy and
preserve in its pristine, virgin condition- in exchange for developing more of
its original property, such as Celebration.
TEEVTEE
Celebration will be designed by Disney for 20,000 people." Not sure how much
room that would take, but if it is like Celebration, they will leave room for
the town to expand.<<<
Well I think this is the difference in acreage that we are seeing Drew. The
1500 acres that I quoted was all developable for parks and hotels and so
forth...NOT for the town. The extra 1500 or 2000 arces that your book seems to
state must be the town area... I assume.
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Rich Pearl
<< . . . there is no rock solid universal way to count the acreage. Some
people include
the parking lot space for example... I did not.>>
But Disney counts parking lots. Consider DCA, a creative way to make a parking
lot worse than a parking lot. I mean, DCA makes <<they pave paradise and put
up a parking lot>> sound good.
--Rich
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