Open price.
Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing
mean exactly? I see it in guitar shops alot. Does it mean that the price can
be bargained down?
Brian
Dave Fossett
It just means that the manufacturer hasn't set a recommended retail price,
so the store is free to set a price. I don't think it means there is any
leeway for bargaining, but it is always worth a try. I always think it is
pretty meaningless from the customer's point of view, as you invariably find
that the price is the same at every shop anyway. And when you see an advert
in a newspaper or magazine for a new video camera or something, it would be
nice to know roughly what the price is. Simply stating "open price" isn't
particularly helpful.
--
Dave Fossett
Saitama, Japan
Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing
Gotcha Dave,thanks!
Brian
Jon up in Tohoku
-- I have never had a problem negotiating on an open price. Just spend a
long long long time and they will always give you a good deal just to get
you out of there shop. When I bought My Panasonic digital camera, it was
listed as open price, and it said, 89 998 and they gave it to me for 78000
after 2 hours, likewise when I bought my guitar it was listed at 180 000 and
I got it for 140 000.
My understanding on Open price was that the manufacturer has yet to specify
a suggested retail price, because it is a new item, but will after a couple
months of sale. I think the stores actually report final sale prices, and
that helps to determine the final suggested retail price. Kind of like a
monitor sale, Panasonic often runs them on their home page.
Jon
Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing
Good information,thanks.
But this is a Gibson guitar and they certainly have suggested prices. I
don't know how much(if any)I'll be able to get these guys down and don't
really care as the price as marked is the same as I would pay in the US.
Brian
Brett Robson
Your going to buy a Gibson? I'm obviously in the wrong business, all I could
afford was an Epiphone (Les Gibson Studio Limited Colour).
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quote from Japan Today forums.
Jon up in Tohoku
mine was fender, deluxe strat with all the bells and whistles. If the shop
is Shimamura, they will come down a bit. It is always worth a try. These
people drool when they see cash. just ask about prices and take a look in
your wallet to confirm how much you brought, and say you are a 万 short,
and see what they do........
"Brett Robson" <jet...@deja.com> wrote in message
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Brett Robson
>
>
>mine was fender, deluxe strat with all the bells and whistles. If the shop
>is Shimamura, they will come down a bit. It is always worth a try. These
>people drool when they see cash. just ask about prices and take a look in
>your wallet to confirm how much you brought, and say you are a 万 short,
>and see what they do........
>
>
my other guitar is a Fender, three tone sunburst Jazz Bass.
.
Bryan Parker
>
>mine was fender, deluxe strat with all the bells and whistles. If the shop
>is Shimamura, they will come down a bit. It is always worth a try. These
>people drool when they see cash. just ask about prices and take a look in
>your wallet to confirm how much you brought, and say you are a 万 short,
>and see what they do........
They'll know that Brett's a "万 short" as
soon as he walks in the door.
--
Bryan
gaijenesis -
noun: the event that is a beginning; a first part or stage
of subsequent events of gaijinhood
Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing
>
>
> Your going to buy a Gibson? I'm obviously in the wrong business, all I
could
> afford was an Epiphone (Les Gibson Studio Limited Colour).
Yeah,it'll be my third in as many years. I have a regular production line
standard. A faded sg and now I'm getting a '57 reissue black beauty.
Contrary to what some other gibson fans might say epiphones are fine guits
too.
Brian
Brett Robson
I'm really a bassist (hence the Jazz Bass) and never owned a good guitar. I was
quite impressed with the Epiphones, the neck feels lovely with a nice low and
consistent action. It's by far the best guitar I've owned and after a bit of
practice I realised I am a much better guitarist than I had thoght (this is of
couse is relative). The sound is good, all for 40,000, although I've seen them
for 35,000. I'm not very tall, and although I am fairly strongly built I have
very small hands - Les Paul Customs and Standards are too heavy and thick for
me. The Studio is perfect, as an SG would be. I can't even play a Precision Bass
and the neck is too wide, I have to use a Jazz Bass.
As nice as it would be I'm not prepared to pay 200,000+ for a real Gisbon, there
are so many other things I want - another synth and some better sound equipment.
.
Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing
> I'm really a bassist (hence the Jazz Bass) and never owned a good guitar.
I was
> quite impressed with the Epiphones, the neck feels lovely with a nice low
and
> consistent action. It's by far the best guitar I've owned and after a bit
of
> practice I realised I am a much better guitarist than I had thoght (this
is of
> couse is relative). The sound is good, all for 40,000, although I've seen
them
> for 35,000. I'm not very tall, and although I am fairly strongly built I
have
> very small hands - Les Paul Customs and Standards are too heavy and thick
for
> me. The Studio is perfect, as an SG would be. I can't even play a
Precision Bass
> and the neck is too wide, I have to use a Jazz Bass.
I used to play bass quite a bit when different bands of friends of mine
needed a bass player and not a guitar player. I could do it real well too
seeing as how I'm a guitar player and always had it in my head how I WANTED
a bass player to sound behind my playing(loud,distorted,and obscene)but I am
first and foremost a guitar player. My hands aren't huge but I do dig the
bigger guitar necks than the smaller. However bass necks are a different
monster for me and that Fender J-bass neck is MUCH cooler to play on than a
P-bass.By the way,the neck on my SG is thick as shit.
> As nice as it would be I'm not prepared to pay 200,000+ for a real Gisbon,
there
> are so many other things I want - another synth and some better sound
equipment.
>
Yeah,I want to buy one of the new Fostex digital 8 track machines and they
are cheaper than hell right now but I really want this new gibby first. Me
and my wife have no kids and we live very cheap with her family so.....I
like good guitars.She likes traveling. We indulge each others whims on this
shit so I have cool axes. I just gotta find people who want to play old
school hard rock and metal and can do it on the nights that I'm not working.
What color is your epi anyway? I couldn't see the link for some reason or
another.
Brian
Brett Robson
My style is based on Sting (early days of course). I like 3 peices and my idea
is the bass should be playing something quite different to the guitar, sort of
fitting around the drummer much the way Sting and Copeland did. I tend to play
around the root, rather than root 5th and 7ths that most do. It often throws
drummers out that aren't confident of keeping time, but once you have a reporte
you can break time really well together.
A colleague of mine is a brillant guitarist and has around 14 guitars. I have
been singing the praises of SGs for a year but he hasn't ever picked one up.
>
>
>> As nice as it would be I'm not prepared to pay 200,000+ for a real Gisbon,
>there
>> are so many other things I want - another synth and some better sound
>equipment.
>>
>
>Yeah,I want to buy one of the new Fostex digital 8 track machines and they
>are cheaper than hell right now but I really want this new gibby first. Me
>and my wife have no kids and we live very cheap with her family so.....I
>like good guitars.She likes traveling. We indulge each others whims on this
>shit so I have cool axes. I just gotta find people who want to play old
>school hard rock and metal and can do it on the nights that I'm not working.
>
Sorry count me out. Think Rage Against the Machine.
I was checking out multi effect boards the other day. I might buy the Boss, it
is < 30,000yen whereas each Boss effect is around 10,000. But I have a
compressor and distortion which about all I use anyway, a chorus would be nice
though. Are you a Doctor of Effects? I tend to use just a touch of distortion.
>What color is your epi anyway? I couldn't see the link for some reason or
>another.
>
Wine red. Beautiful finish but sort of not the nasty punk that I see my self as.
I accidently hit the big red button and shutdown this machine, I forgot to
restart the interweb thingy again. try again
looks a bit red here
http://atomu.gol.ad.jp/les_paul_and_amp.jpg
in the shop, more accurate colour
http://atomu.gol.ad.jp/les_paul_studio.jpg