Question regarding crude white wannabes
MatthewOutland
wannabes in america. This is an attempt at rationality, and I would
like all converned to contribute their GENUINE thoughts
When I was at Shibuya in my trip to japan, I encountered a few of
these "white waannabes" bu they were nice to me, I guess, because I
was white.
Now, as many of you know, when I went to UNT at denton, I encountered
american wannabes, only they were blatantly racist against americans.
The classic, rude racist kinpatsu, american fashion and music,
idolization of everythnig american, but only talking to each other in
japanese, and when in the presence of other japanese, giving a "gaigin
shock" look if a gaigin happened to be within a 100 meter radius.
I at first dismissed all japanese as "Racist copycats" and while there
is some truth to that, this is inconsistent witht hte fact that whne I
went to japan I receive much courtesy from not only "american
wannabes" but also the polite hard working type.
At first, I reasoned, that UNT is a mediocre university, Denton a pice
of shit city, so you'd have to be both a moron, part of the japanese
underclass and fanatically devoted to mimicing america to want to go
there, thus ridding it of "japanese who arent sick freaks". This
explanation, is however, a tad simplistic, as it does not explain why
the said japanese were racist against americans in such a uniform
fashion.
Perhaps it was conformity, maybe they all came different, but
comformed to the ex-pat "pseduo american standard", which includes
exclusion of gaigin. I however, feel this is an unfair, or perhaps
exaggerated judgement of japanese social tendencies.
Another is that its a combination of these, however, I feel that this
is not concrete enough of an answer.
A hypothesis of mine, is that there is, in japanese society a large
section of japanese society, devoted solely to idolization and racism
against american society, in which there is a strict code of
conformity and is the "pool" of american racist wannabes. Silly as it
may seem, and I noticed most "american wannabes" from canada lived in
quebec, thus there is something of a "pool" of american wannabes.
Perhaps, a similar attitude could be applied to japan, a "pool" of
american racist wannabes, only perhaps it is much larger. This is
still difficult to undertand even if it were an empiracal truth.
Now, kaz may say the "pool" is yamanote tokyo japs and nishinomiya(?)
kobe japs, but from what I understand, these people are as western
europe wannabe as they are america wannabe. In any event, these people
were far more polite and different than the japs I came across.
All concerned, I genuinely want to hear your thoughts on the subject.
kaz
"MatthewOutland" <matthewo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Now, kaz may say the "pool" is yamanote tokyo japs and nishinomiya(?)
> kobe japs, but from what I understand, these people are as western
> europe wannabe as they are america wannabe. In any event, these people
> were far more polite and different than the japs I came across.
Simply those honorary Whites are nice and polite to you just because you are
real White. They are extremely ugly and offensive against ordunary Japanese,
other Asians and Africans. They can't distinguish a European from Americans,
and they're just extreme racists worshipping every Westerner, and that's
all.
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says...
I speak K-K-K-kaz, so let me translate.
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> Simply those honorary Whites are nice and polite to you just because you are
> real White.
Translation: Damn, why are those other Japanese so socially skilled?
> They are extremely ugly and offensive against ordunary Japanese,
> other Asians and Africans.
Translation:
Why doesn't anybody like ME? It MUST be because I'm Japanese. I just
KNOW it. There couldn't POSSIBLY be any other reason. I'm a nice guy,
right?
So if they're discriminating against me because I'm Japanese, they must
be RACISTS! That means they don't like, uh, let's see . . . . OTHER
people of colour! Yeah, that's it!
> They can't distinguish a European from Americans,
> and they're just extreme racists worshipping every Westerner, and that's
> all.
>
Translation:
I sure wish they liked me!
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K-K-K-kaz, going around with a chip on your shoulder is just going to
make people dislike you. Just stop stereotyping, stop making racist
remarks, and stop offending people who are different from you! It's
easy! People will start treating you differently!
Your welcome.
That will be $175.00, please.
Verno
kaz
Really silly sick White supremacist's subjective reasoning.
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Richard J
MatthewOutland wrote:
> I am trying here to develop a theory about the existance of white
> wannabes in america. This is an attempt at rationality, and I would
> like all converned to contribute their GENUINE thoughts
>
>
>
> When I was at Shibuya in my trip to japan, I encountered a few of
> these "white waannabes" bu they were nice to me, I guess, because I
> was white.
>
>
>
> Now, as many of you know, when I went to UNT at denton, I encountered
> american wannabes, only they were blatantly racist against americans.
> The classic, rude racist kinpatsu, american fashion and music,
> idolization of everythnig american, but only talking to each other in
> japanese, and when in the presence of other japanese, giving a "gaigin
> shock" look if a gaigin happened to be within a 100 meter radius.
>
<snip>
The Japanese are a curious people. They are openly among the most
racist of people in the world, but very polite about it. To the
Japanese, you are either Japanese, or gaijin.
In the case of America, there is a love-hate relationship. Following
the conclusion of W.W.II, America not only occupied Japan, but changed
their very traditional society forever. Many traditionalists wanted
Nippon to stand as a World power, but remain unsullied by Western
influence. When the Americans took over, that was not a possibility,
and the westernization of Japanese society rapidly occurred. In the
process, succeeding generations of Japanese became less and less
traditional.
I believe militarism is once again raising its head in Japan. Once
expressed in business, (ever hear the expression 'Business is war'?) The
need to feel superior is not being met as Japan is in the middle of a
very bad economic slump. Japanese who, in their racism felt superior
with business success, now see they are little different from other
industrialized nations. They see that while the US has been hurt by
recession as well, they are still the most powerful nation in the World.
They resent this and are hurt by the fact. They adore western
culture, but some are jealous of the US with its power.
Teflon
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> Really silly sick White supremacist's subjective reasoning.
Followed by a really pathetic response by a lying racist who accuses me
of being a "white supremacist", but can't find a single post or remark I
have made that is racist in any way. He has been challenged to do so on
many occasions, but cannot.
I have posted links to many of K-K-K-kaz's disgusting racist diatribes.
K-K-K-kaz eschews such proof, prefering the "big lie technique"
popularized by Hitler. In his autobiographical work, Mein Kampf, Hitler
said:
"Something therefore always remains and sticks from the most impudent
lie, a fact which all bodies and individuals concerned in the art of
lying in this world know only too well, and therefore they stop at
nothing to achieve this end."
That fits K-K-K-kaz to a "T". Otherwise, he would post links.
How about it K-K-K-kaz? Are you going to continue using Hitler's lying
techniques, or are you going to stop making racist remarks and become a
decent human being?
Verno
Makoto Taniguchi
> Now, as many of you know, when I went to UNT at denton, I encountered
> american wannabes, only they were blatantly racist against americans.
Since when was the Americans a specific race?
Rindler Sigurd
> racist of people in the world, but very polite about it. To the
> Japanese, you are either Japanese, or gaijin.
>
You are almost right on this one... except for the fact that the degree of
racism depends on the country of origin.
Having two nationalities (Austrian and German), puts me well ahead of
Chinese, Koreans, Indians, or nationals of African or South American banana
republics. Not because I am so handsome or whatever...
It's the materialistic factor which Japanese put in front of everything.
BMW, Porsche, and everything "Made in Germany" must be the determining
factor. All I need is slanting eyes to become totally embraced!
I still remember a German hippie in jeans and looks like Jesus Christ with
5,000 yen in his pocket when arriving at Narita airport. He was let off the
hook within a single minute. Then came the businessman from Bangladesh with
an invitation from Mitsubishi Chemicals and an entire block of bank checks.
He was investigated for one hour before getting out of the airport. I talked
to them in the bus back to Tokyo.
Sigi
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Kaz
"Makoto Taniguchi" <bartr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Ah---ah, Makoto-kun, what a incoherent thing you are saying. The other day
you said to me, probably a few months ago that Canadians are different from
both Asians and European, and said it as if it's a specific American race
Richard J
Rindler Sigurd wrote:
>>The Japanese are a curious people. They are openly among the most
>>racist of people in the world, but very polite about it. To the
>>Japanese, you are either Japanese, or gaijin.
>>
>
>
> You are almost right on this one... except for the fact that the degree of
> racism depends on the country of origin.
> Having two nationalities (Austrian and German), puts me well ahead of
> Chinese, Koreans, Indians, or nationals of African or South American banana
> republics. Not because I am so handsome or whatever...
> It's the materialistic factor which Japanese put in front of everything.
> BMW, Porsche, and everything "Made in Germany" must be the determining
> factor. All I need is slanting eyes to become totally embraced!
> I still remember a German hippie in jeans and looks like Jesus Christ with
> 5,000 yen in his pocket when arriving at Narita airport. He was let off the
> hook within a single minute. Then came the businessman from Bangladesh with
> an invitation from Mitsubishi Chemicals and an entire block of bank checks.
> He was investigated for one hour before getting out of the airport. I talked
> to them in the bus back to Tokyo.
>
>
> Sigi
>
The Japanese still consider those they once conquered below them in
status and with some suspicion.
Teflon
Richard J
About the same time Japanese stop being racist
Teflon
Michael Cash
Taniguchi) belched the alphabet and kept on going with:
Ever since the Japanese decided that they would refer to Americans as
"amerikajin" and "kokujin"? If that ain't the answer, then I give up.
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> >
> > > Now, as many of you know, when I went to UNT at denton, I encountered
> > > american wannabes, only they were blatantly racist against americans.
> >
> > Since when was the Americans a specific race?
>
> Ah---ah, Makoto-kun, what a incoherent thing you are saying. The other day
> you said to me, probably a few months ago that Canadians are different from
> both Asians and European, and said it as if it's a specific American race
>
you post a link. Get googling, K-K-K-kaz. This is a chance to bolster
your credibility, which is currently in tatters.
Verno
Makoto Taniguchi
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> >
> > > Now, as many of you know, when I went to UNT at denton, I encountered
> > > american wannabes, only they were blatantly racist against americans.
> >
> > Since when was the Americans a specific race?
>
> Ah---ah, Makoto-kun, what a incoherent thing you are saying. The other day
> you said to me, probably a few months ago that Canadians are different from
> both Asians and European, and said it as if it's a specific American race
I was talking about the difference between race and nationality IDIOT.
Saying something like "racist to Americans" makes absolutely no sense.
Matt doesn't want to acknowledge the fact that you don't need to be
white to be an American same counts for Canadians too.
Kaz
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> > > > Now, as many of you know, when I went to UNT at denton, I
encountered
> > > > american wannabes, only they were blatantly racist against
americans.
> > >
> > > Since when was the Americans a specific race?
> >
> > Ah---ah, Makoto-kun, what a incoherent thing you are saying. The other
day
> > you said to me, probably a few months ago that Canadians are different
from
> > both Asians and European, and said it as if it's a specific American
race
>
> I was talking about the difference between race and nationality IDIOT.
There is not much difference existing between race and nationality, idiot.
What do you want to say? You are incoherent anyway.
> Saying something like "racist to Americans" makes absolutely no sense.
> Matt doesn't want to acknowledge the fact that you don't need to be
> white to be an American same counts for Canadians too.
Surely Americans(USA) are a certain ethnic group having their own
civilization, culture and habits. But Canadians, No. Canada is more like
White men's colony for smashing beavers and hunting wildlife for furs.
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>> "Monkey-boy" <k...@ivebeenframed.com> wrote in message
> There is not much difference existing between race and nationality, idiot.
Uh, yes there is, Monkey-boy. For example, Chinese and Japanese are
mostly of the same race. Americans are a mixed race, with about 20% of
the people able to trace ancestry to American Indians, about 10% to black
Africans, about 10% to Central American Indians, and you directly to lemurs.
Mike
vernon...@oyama.ca
> There is not much difference existing between race and nationality, idiot.
>
population came from immigration over the past 2 centuries, such as
Canada, USA, Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Australia, and New Zealand.
> What do you want to say? You are incoherent anyway.
>
K-K-K-kaz, of all people, calling someone incoherent???? ROTFLMAO!!!!
Verno
Ryan Ginstrom
Having missed most of this thread, I have a question: Are you guys talking
about crude whites, who wannabe something? Or crude people who wannabe
white? Or people who wannabe crude whites?
The confusion is killing me.
--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom
John Yamamoto-Wilson
> Having missed most of this thread,
Consider yourself lucky.
> I have a question
Don't even ask!
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John
http://rarebooksinjapan.com
Kaz
Stop ranting, racist Vernon. Become a human.
vernon...@oyama.ca
@hotmail.com says...
Argentina, Australia, and New Zealand each have their own homogenous and
unique racial origin?
NOT!
Once again, K-K-K-kaz, you display your stupidity.
When will you stop making racist comments and become a decent human
being?
Verno