subete and sukkari

[FIA user]

Can somebody tell me the difference between "sukkari" and "subete"?

[Atsushi TABuchi]

In article <4entmb$6...@news.hiroshima-u.ac.jp> Masafumi Nakato
<mna...@ue.ipc.hiroshima-u.ac.jp> writes:

> I often use "subete" as adjective than as adverb,
> use "sukkari" as adverb, not as adjective.

I don't know "adjective (keiyoushi)" usage of "subete". Could you give me
some clear examples? Or you mean "subete-no" as adjective? (ex. Subete no
hito ha shinu. -> Every people will die.)

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[Masafumi Nakato]

Oh, I've meant "suvete-no" as adjective. I'm sorry.

In my dictionary;

"Subete" all; altogether; on the whole; wholly

"Sukkari" thoroughly; completely; entirely; quite; all

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Re: subete and sukkari

[Bob Myers]

>>>>> "Rob" == Rob <m97...@seinan-gu.ac.jp> writes:
Rob>In article <4entmb$6...@news.hiroshima-u.ac.jp>, Masafumi Nakato
Rob><mna...@ue.ipc.hiroshima-u.ac.jp> wrote:

>>It's difficult for me.

>>I often use "subete" as adjective than as adverb,
>>use "sukkari" as adverb, not as adjective.

Rob> I would say that subete is more close to 'all', while 'sukkari'
Rob>is more close to 'thoroughly'. Also sukkari is more of a conversational
Rob>term.

I will try to provide some reference data on the "sukkari"
vs. "subete" question.

"subete" is a word which carries very few connotations. It basically
just means "all". "Hon wo subete yomimashita" == "I read the entire
book, I read all the books".

"Sukkari" is a word which contains stronger connotations of
"completeness", "totality".

"Hon wo sukkari yomimashita" = "I read the book from start to end";
"Sukkari wasurete shimatta" = "I totally forgot"; "sukkari ki ni itta"
= "I was totally sucked in by..."

I asked my son what the difference between "hon wo subete
yomimashita" and "sukkari yomimashita" was. His comments were: The
person doing the "sukkari" thing was more involved with the reading,
and didn't fail to read a single word. The person doing the "subete"
thing simply read the book, with less involvement, possibly skipping
some things, possibly just reading the book for an assignment or
something. "Sukkari" involves "consuming" the content of the book,
whereas "subete" involves "passing over" its content.

Hard stuff.
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Thanks, Bob.