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Crunch Buttsteak

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Nov 26, 2003, 8:44:51 AM11/26/03
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Does anybody else in here use Opera? (7.23) I've been playing with
this thing for a couple of days and I think it kicks ass. There are a
few thing that might take a little getting used to, but one thing is
for certain, it's quick!

--
Bryan with a マ-ファキン "Y"

Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing

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Nov 26, 2003, 9:32:54 AM11/26/03
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"Crunch Buttsteak" <puntspe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Doesn't it have ads,fer fuckssake?
Unless you buy it,that is?


Brian


Crunch Buttsteak

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Nov 26, 2003, 9:46:05 AM11/26/03
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On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:32:54 +0900, "Dick Muhfukkin Bagswing"
<la...@my.nuts.wouldja?> wrote:

>
>"Crunch Buttsteak" <puntspe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:i4b9svgi28q9m7985...@4ax.com...
>> Does anybody else in here use Opera? (7.23) I've been playing with
>> this thing for a couple of days and I think it kicks ass. There are a
>> few thing that might take a little getting used to, but one thing is
>> for certain, it's quick!
>>
>

>Doesn't it have ads,fer fuckssake?
>Unless you buy it,that is?

I haven't noticed any.

Raj Feridun

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Nov 26, 2003, 10:12:06 AM11/26/03
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I'll have to try that one. Meanwhile I've been using Mozilla Firebird
0.7 as my default browser. I can't imagine anything much faster and
it's got it's own popup killer and of course neato tabbed browsing.

Matthew Endo

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Nov 26, 2003, 4:58:47 PM11/26/03
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Raj Feridun <rfe...@NOSPAMyahoo.co.jp> wrote:

> I'll have to try that one. Meanwhile I've been using Mozilla Firebird
> 0.7 as my default browser. I can't imagine anything much faster and
> it's got it's own popup killer and of course neato tabbed browsing.

The coolest thing is that plugin that shows the English translation of
the kanji or Japanese word you mouse over.

--
Matt
ma...@gol.com

Raj Feridun

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Nov 26, 2003, 6:27:18 PM11/26/03
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Do you mean PopJisyo? http://www.popjisyo.com/WebHint/Portal_e.aspx

That works with almost any browser though. Or is there something else
new and cool that I'm missing? Do tell.


Raj Feridun

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Nov 26, 2003, 6:55:52 PM11/26/03
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Nevermind I found the Moji extension. Very very cool indeed! Thanks
alot for the tip! I'm definitely not going back to IE now.

Haluk Skywalker

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Nov 26, 2003, 7:37:58 PM11/26/03
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"Crunch Buttsteak" <puntspe...@yahoo.com>, haber iletisinde ?unlar?
yazd?:rse9sv0bq0dvjauc0...@4ax.com...

Look upper right corner.

obakesan

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Nov 26, 2003, 8:12:55 PM11/26/03
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HiYa

In article <i4b9svgi28q9m7985...@4ax.com>, Crunch Buttsteak

<puntspe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Does anybody else in here use Opera? (7.23) I've been playing with
>this thing for a couple of days and I think it kicks ass. There are a
>few thing that might take a little getting used to, but one thing is
>for certain, it's quick!
>


yeah, me ... we use it here for testing our pages for compliance. I use IE a
bit, but like the 'gestures' available with Opera


See Ya
(when bandwidth gets better ;-)

Chris Eastwood

we tend to blame others for our problems
I think this is something we inherit from our parents

please remove undies for reply

Crunch Buttsteak

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Nov 27, 2003, 4:38:08 AM11/27/03
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>Look upper right corner.

Nada! I'm just lucky.

Michael Cash

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Nov 27, 2003, 9:56:02 AM11/27/03
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On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:44:51 +0900, Crunch Buttsteak
<puntspe...@yahoo.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
with:

>Does anybody else in here use Opera? (7.23) I've been playing with
>this thing for a couple of days and I think it kicks ass. There are a
>few thing that might take a little getting used to, but one thing is
>for certain, it's quick!

Link, bitch.


Crunch Buttsteak

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Nov 27, 2003, 10:37:04 AM11/27/03
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It very well may have come pre-installed on one of your HDs. It's
clearly labeled. Let me know if you can't find it.

Michael Cash

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Nov 27, 2003, 11:53:42 AM11/27/03
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 00:37:04 +0900, Crunch Buttsteak

<puntspe...@yahoo.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
with:

>On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:56:02 +0900, Michael Cash
><mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:44:51 +0900, Crunch Buttsteak
>><puntspe...@yahoo.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
>>with:
>>
>>>Does anybody else in here use Opera? (7.23) I've been playing with
>>>this thing for a couple of days and I think it kicks ass. There are a
>>>few thing that might take a little getting used to, but one thing is
>>>for certain, it's quick!
>>
>>Link, bitch.
>
>It very well may have come pre-installed on one of your HDs. It's
>clearly labeled. Let me know if you can't find it.

I found it. Right next to Bumfights II.


Jean-Marc Desperrier

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Nov 27, 2003, 2:54:15 PM11/27/03
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Crunch Buttsteak wrote:
> Does anybody else in here use Opera? (7.23) I've been playing with
> this thing for a couple of days and I think it kicks ass. There are a
> few thing that might take a little getting used to, but one thing is
> for certain, it's quick!

You should try Firebird/Mozilla.

Have a look here for somme needed basic configuration :
http://www.mozilla.org/start/1.0/faq/browser.html#2.3

And the Moji extension of course.
http://moji.mozdev.org/

And if you do want Opera like gesture :
http://optimoz.mozdev.org/

Haluk Skwwalker

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Nov 27, 2003, 6:40:54 PM11/27/03
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Jean-Marc Desperrier wrote:

OK, I downloaded it and trying. Looks awfully familiar since I used to
browse with Netscape Communicator 5.0 in ancient times. But, I couldn't
manage to run this moji thing...

Raj Feridun

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Nov 27, 2003, 7:12:12 PM11/27/03
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Make sure you download and install Jslib first and that you also
download the kanji dictionary (available at the Moji installation
page). Then just press ctl-M when you have a Japanese page loaded and
the Moji sidebar will appear. Select any kanji or series of kanjis and
then press the lookup button on top of the Moji sidebar. I had some
trouble at first getting it working too.

Raj Feridun

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Nov 27, 2003, 7:13:45 PM11/27/03
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Oh yeah, and before you try using Moji you need to go into the
Firebird setup, plugins and configure Moji by pointing it to where
you've saved the dictionary files.


Jean-Marc Desperrier

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Nov 28, 2003, 5:13:42 AM11/28/03
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Haluk Skwwalker wrote:
> OK, I downloaded it and trying. Looks awfully familiar since I used to
> browse with Netscape Communicator 5.0 in ancient times.

Even with the moden theme ? Try firebird if you don't like it or don't
need the mail part.

Maybe you'd be better with 1.5, instead of 1.6a. I don't know about the
official 1.6a , but the nightly I downloaded a few days ago is
definitively unstable ...

> But, I couldn't
> manage to run this moji thing...

Maybe we need an detailled installation page.

Haluk Skywalker

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Nov 28, 2003, 9:54:09 AM11/28/03
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"Jean-Marc Desperrier" <jmd...@alussinan.org>, haber iletisinde sunlari
yazdi:bq7634$ra7$1...@reader1.imaginet.fr...

Definately. It says JSLib is needed. I click on JSLib, it downloads and
installs automatically. I than click on moji and it installs automatically
as well. I than download eng-kanji dict. file. What do I do with this? I
can't find the configuration page, or any setup screen other than
preferences menu item. Ctrl-M fires mail client.


Raj Feridun

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Nov 29, 2003, 12:58:14 AM11/29/03
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Just extract the dictionary files to any folder. I just made one
called c:\engdict

Then in Firebird>Tools>Options>Extensions>Moji>Options you will find
the place to point Moji to the directory where you've saved the
dictionary files. Then you will be in business.

I've actually found the toolbar buttons the Moji extension adds for
Rikai.com and Popjisyo for mouseover kanji definitions more useful
thus far. That is brilliant. Go to View>Toolbars>Customize in Firebird
and you should see those toolbar items. Just drag them to your
toolbar.

Firebird is just excellent.

Scott Reynolds

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Nov 29, 2003, 3:10:14 AM11/29/03
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Just to confirm: Moji only works with Firebird, not with Mozilla. On
Mozilla it will appear to install, but then nothing happens.

--
_______________________________________________________________
Scott Reynolds s...@gol.com

Haluk Skywalker

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Nov 29, 2003, 4:43:30 AM11/29/03
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"Scott Reynolds" <s...@gol.com>, haber iletisinde sunlari
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That figures... Mine is Mozilla 1.6a. For a second, I seriously thought I's
too old for this...


Haluk Skywalker

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Nov 29, 2003, 4:45:54 AM11/29/03
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"Raj Feridun" <rfe...@NOSPAMyahoo.co.jp>, haber iletisinde sunlari
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It turns out I's poking the wrong hole... Mozilla and Firebird turned out to
be different things. Mine is 1.6 GTI while yours is Firebird


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