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Douglas Hornick

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Aug 24, 2003, 9:10:27 AM8/24/03
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My wife's cousin in Tokyo has given us a couple of Japanese sentences and is
looking for an accurate English translation. I tried a few online
translation web pages like babelfish etc.. but the result didn't seem to
make any sense. I would appreciate any help. Thanks. Here are the
sentences:

?????????????
???????????

DougH


Declan Murphy

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Aug 24, 2003, 9:41:53 AM8/24/03
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I get two rows of 13 and 11 question marks respectively (on Japanese
OS). Perhaps you may wish to repost these in another coding - such as
ISO-2022-JP or Shift_JIS. Or failing that, romanize it.


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DougH

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Aug 24, 2003, 9:38:09 AM8/24/03
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Let me try that again:

?????????????
???????????


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DougH

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Aug 24, 2003, 9:54:28 AM8/24/03
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Well that blew. This is the first time I've posted with a foreign character set. I hope this works:

素敵な夢をかなえましょう。
めぐり逢えたときから。

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DougH

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Aug 24, 2003, 9:45:10 AM8/24/03
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Let's try this one more time:

?????????????
???????????

Hopefully this will make it to the newsgroup correctly.

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Louise Bremner

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Aug 24, 2003, 6:17:24 PM8/24/03
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DougH <horn...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Well that blew. This is the first time I've posted with a foreign
> character set. I hope this works:
>

> 素敵な夢�‚'かなえましょう。
> めぐり逢えたときから。

If that resolves to Japanese, I need to find out how to decode yet
another encoding. Ah: 'charset="utf-8"'

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Kevin Wayne Williams

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Aug 24, 2003, 6:39:47 PM8/24/03
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Louise Bremner wrote:

> DougH <horn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Well that blew. This is the first time I've posted with a foreign
>>character set. I hope this works:
>>

>>c,´ ?.?a~?^(a)a*?¢a~,'a~?<a~?^(a)a~?^a~?3/4a~?―a~,‡a~?†a~EUR,
>>a~,?a~??a~,S(e'EUR¢a~?^a~?Y"a~?¨a~??a~?<a~,‰a~EUR,


>
>
> If that resolves to Japanese, I need to find out how to decode yet
> another encoding. Ah: 'charset="utf-8"'

It's
素敵な夢をかなえましょう。
めぐり逢えたときから。

It's something about getting what you dream about and fortuitous
meetings, but more flowery than my mental parser can handle.

KWW

Ryan Ginstrom

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Aug 24, 2003, 6:54:03 PM8/24/03
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"DougH" <horn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> 素敵な夢をかなえましょう。
> めぐり逢えたときから。

Some kind of fluff. Literally, something like
Let's realize wonderful dreams - from the moment we meet

What it will actually be will depend on the context and what it's being used
for. If the Tokyo "cousin" wants to put a frilly English phrase on her
homepage, that the Japanese visitors to the page can back-translate and get
素敵な夢をかなえましょう。
めぐり逢えたときから。
then the literal translation is probably the best. Preferably in nice,
feminine, lavender handwriting over a flower-pattern background.

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Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom


DougH

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Aug 25, 2003, 4:02:02 AM8/25/03
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> Some kind of fluff. Literally, something like
> Let's realize wonderful dreams - from the moment we meet
>
> What it will actually be will depend on the context and what it's being used
> for. If the Tokyo "cousin" wants to put a frilly English phrase on her
> homepage, that the Japanese visitors to the page can back-translate and get
> 素敵な夢をかなえましょう。
> めぐり逢えたときから。
> then the literal translation is probably the best. Preferably in nice,
> feminine, lavender handwriting over a flower-pattern background.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Ryan Ginstrom
>


It's a guy who wants to do this. He's doing some secret romantic thing for his wife and wanted to use English as part of it. It is kind of fluffy isn't it. Only been married a couple of years and has a baby now. Thanks for the translation.

DougH

DougH

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Aug 25, 2003, 4:03:22 AM8/25/03
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> It's something about getting what you dream about and fortuitous
> meetings, but more flowery than my mental parser can handle.
>
> KWW


Thanks Kevin.

DougH

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Aug 25, 2003, 4:06:58 AM8/25/03
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> > ç´ æ.µã ªå¤¢ã,'ã <ã ªã ^ã ¾ã -ã,?ã ?ã?,
> > ã, ã ã,Sé?¢ã ^ã Yã ¨ã ã <ã,?ã?,

>
> If that resolves to Japanese, I need to find out how to decode yet
> another encoding. Ah: 'charset="utf-8"'
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Louise Bremner (log at gol dot com)
> If you want a reply by e-mail, don't write to my Yahoo address!

I use Outlook Express and changed the encoding under the international settings to: Japanese (JIS)

DougH

Ryan Ginstrom

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Aug 25, 2003, 5:30:03 AM8/25/03
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Ryan:

> Some kind of fluff. Literally, something like
> Let's realize wonderful dreams - from the moment we meet
>

"DougH" <horn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> It's a guy who wants to do this. He's doing some secret romantic thing
for his wife and wanted to use
> English as part of it. It is kind of fluffy isn't it. Only been married
a couple of years and has a baby
> now. Thanks for the translation.

Wow, it was a guy. Does he get his ass kicked often?

But at least I was right about the audience. Since it's written for a fellow
Japanese, unless her English is quite good you should probably keep it
literal, so she can figure out what it means. Especially, keep the word
"dream" -- I'm sure she'll know that word.

And I still recommend the lavender girlie handwriting.

Of course, the tricky part is do you clean it up enough so that after it's
been framed and hanging on their living room wall for 10 years, some snotty
English teacher without much tact doesn't stroll in and tell them what lousy
English their prized romantic thingamaboobie is written in...

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Ryan Ginstrom


Michael Cash

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Aug 25, 2003, 9:28:52 AM8/25/03
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On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 18:30:03 +0900, "Ryan Ginstrom"
<gins...@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going with:

>
>Ryan:
>> Some kind of fluff. Literally, something like
>> Let's realize wonderful dreams - from the moment we meet
>>
>
>"DougH" <horn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:bicg3a$e4q$1...@pin3.tky.plala.or.jp...
>
>> It's a guy who wants to do this. He's doing some secret romantic thing
>for his wife and wanted to use
>> English as part of it. It is kind of fluffy isn't it. Only been married
>a couple of years and has a baby
>> now. Thanks for the translation.
>
>Wow, it was a guy. Does he get his ass kicked often?
>
>But at least I was right about the audience. Since it's written for a fellow
>Japanese, unless her English is quite good you should probably keep it
>literal, so she can figure out what it means. Especially, keep the word
>"dream" -- I'm sure she'll know that word.
>
>And I still recommend the lavender girlie handwriting.

That shouldn't be a problem. Doug was in the Air Force.


Ryan Ginstrom

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Aug 25, 2003, 7:34:51 PM8/25/03
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"Michael Cash" <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 18:30:03 +0900, "Ryan Ginstrom"
> >And I still recommend the lavender girlie handwriting.
>
> That shouldn't be a problem. Doug was in the Air Force.

Shows what you know. The Air Force doesn't allow lavender pens. Unless you
ask really nicely.

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Ryan Ginstrom

Michael Cash

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Aug 26, 2003, 5:46:35 AM8/26/03
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:34:51 +0900, "Ryan Ginstrom"

<gins...@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going with:

>

Yeah, but you can do it any color once you finish learning girlie
handwriting in boot camp.

Ryan Ginstrom

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Aug 26, 2003, 6:51:28 AM8/26/03
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"Michael Cash" <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote in message
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> Yeah, but you can do it any color once you finish learning girlie
> handwriting in boot camp.

Don't trivialize how hard Air Force basic training is. I still get
nightmares about it today:

Airman! You walk like a girlie! Now!

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Ryan Ginstrom

DougH

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Aug 26, 2003, 10:16:54 AM8/26/03
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>
> That shouldn't be a problem. Doug was in the Air Force.
>

Ya damn right I was you big tough Navy guy. ha By the way, I start English teaching this Sept.1 thanks to a friend of a friend. The local city office is always looking for ALT's it seems. So now I'm on the payroll and will be in three elementary schools and one junior high school. Seems to be a better position to be in than a Nova or Aeon type teacher.


DougH

mukade

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Aug 27, 2003, 9:26:17 AM8/27/03
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"DougH" <horn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<bifq57$ll$1...@pin3.tky.plala.or.jp>...

"Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk" he says from bitter experience.

Mukade

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