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Louise Bremner

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Jun 27, 2003, 5:20:51 AM6/27/03
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...as part of a discussion of whether it's possible to be buried alive
by mistake:

> >periodically we get cases where such folk have
> >been thought dead by everyone and then were found to be alive by a
> >morrtician or a hospital tech or some other later-in-the -line person.
>
> I Am Told (just from online sources, though I tried for stuff of decent
> voracity) that this can be an effect of fugu (blowfish) toxin. In
> Japan, where the stuff is widely et, I Am Told that it's conventional
> not to bury someone who appears to have died from it until decomposition
> begins, so as not to have them wake up too late.

Leaving aside the burial bit, is it common to keep fugu victims
undisposed of until it's obvious they really are dead?

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Michael Cash

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Jun 27, 2003, 6:09:56 AM6/27/03
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:20:51 +0900, dame_...@yahoo.com ( Louise
Bremner) belched the alphabet and kept on going with:

>...as part of a discussion of whether it's possible to be buried alive
>by mistake:
>
>> >periodically we get cases where such folk have
>> >been thought dead by everyone and then were found to be alive by a
>> >morrtician or a hospital tech or some other later-in-the -line person.
>>
>> I Am Told (just from online sources, though I tried for stuff of decent
>> voracity) that this can be an effect of fugu (blowfish) toxin. In
>> Japan, where the stuff is widely et, I Am Told that it's conventional
>> not to bury someone who appears to have died from it until decomposition
>> begins, so as not to have them wake up too late.
>
>Leaving aside the burial bit, is it common to keep fugu victims
>undisposed of until it's obvious they really are dead?

I should think the autopsy would remove most lingering doubt.


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Louise Bremner

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Jun 27, 2003, 7:15:04 PM6/27/03
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Michael Cash <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote:

> >Leaving aside the burial bit, is it common to keep fugu victims
> >undisposed of until it's obvious they really are dead?
>
> I should think the autopsy would remove most lingering doubt.

Ah, but autopsies are a fairly modern part of the ritual. Maybe I
should've asked whether it was common in the past to keep suspected fugu
victims undisposed of?

John W.

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Jun 28, 2003, 12:52:17 PM6/28/03
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dame_...@yahoo.com ( Louise Bremner) wrote in message news:<1fx96ze.15ls61k16dsn84N%dame_...@yahoo.com>...

> Michael Cash <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote:
>
> > >Leaving aside the burial bit, is it common to keep fugu victims
> > >undisposed of until it's obvious they really are dead?
> >
> > I should think the autopsy would remove most lingering doubt.
>
> Ah, but autopsies are a fairly modern part of the ritual. Maybe I
> should've asked whether it was common in the past to keep suspected fugu
> victims undisposed of?
>
Somehow I have the impression that any doctor worth his salt would be
able to know if someone was dead or not, regardless of how dead they
might appear. But we were talking about Japan, the country that put a
cast on my foot/leg because I sprained my ankle.

John W.

Ed

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Jun 29, 2003, 6:01:39 PM6/29/03
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"John W." <worth...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The same thing happened to me in the states.


John W.

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Jun 30, 2003, 11:39:30 AM6/30/03
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"Ed" <gwb...@whitehouse.gov> wrote in message news:<bdnpkh$nka$1...@cobalt01.janis.or.jp>...

Impossible.

Actually, I was just happy they didn't require me to stay in the hospital.

John W.

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