American bacon.
Joey Bananas
I don't mean this shit they call bacon over here that is like ham or
the so-called "canadian bacon" I mean good ol' USA type cook it crispy
and dark type pigfat.
Flame me if you wish but I am new to this country and still learning
the language and don't know a fucking soul except these condescending
brit assholes at work.
And I am not trying to offend any brits here. Just the yank-hating
assholes and I don't give a fuck about their reasons as I don't give
them one to hate me.
WHEW!!!!!!
Glad to be able to blow that shit off. Please refer to my original
american style bacon question.
IOW,if I go to a nikuya how do I explain the cut of bacon that Iwant?
Thanks!
Michael Cash
belched the alphabet and kept on going with:
>Is it possible to get it in Saitama at a butcher or nikuya???
Have you checked your local supermarket?
>
>I don't mean this shit they call bacon over here that is like ham or
>the so-called "canadian bacon" I mean good ol' USA type cook it crispy
>and dark type pigfat.
>
>Flame me if you wish but I am new to this country and still learning
>the language and don't know a fucking soul except these condescending
>brit assholes at work.
God bless you, and welcome to the group.
>
>And I am not trying to offend any brits here. Just the yank-hating
>assholes and I don't give a fuck about their reasons as I don't give
>them one to hate me.
You're Sepponian; which is all that is required.
>
>
>WHEW!!!!!!
>
>Glad to be able to blow that shit off. Please refer to my original
>american style bacon question.
>IOW,if I go to a nikuya how do I explain the cut of bacon that Iwant?
Ryan is real good at miming stuff. Maybe he can help.
Ryan Ginstrom
"Michael Cash" <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote in message
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> >american style bacon question.
> >IOW,if I go to a nikuya how do I explain the cut of bacon that Iwant?
>
> Ryan is real good at miming stuff. Maybe he can help.
Bacon is easy, I won't insult your intelligence with instructions. Just
remember: In Japan, pigs go "ui ui".
HTH
--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom
Ryan Ginstrom
"Joey Bananas" <lick...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f3747951.03091...@posting.google.com...
> Glad to be able to blow that shit off. Please refer to my original
> american style bacon question.
> IOW,if I go to a nikuya how do I explain the cut of bacon that Iwant?
Apart from coming down to Okinawa, which is pig-meat heaven, you could order
online.
Does this look approximately like what you're after?
http://www.curio-city.com/arkfarm/7311/79900.html
They'll ship to Shizuoka for around 1,000 yen, and accept payment by credit
card, bank transfer, or post-office transfer.
Or how about this one:
http://shop.ede-c.com/Mall2/257/100567.html
(scroll down to the bottom)
They'll ship via cool pack for ~800 yen.
--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom
John W.
> Is it possible to get it in Saitama at a butcher or nikuya???
>
but is it possible for a non-military person to go onbase to the PX?
They should deffinitely have it there.
In Kobe/Himeji my local supermarket had it. Granted it wasn't *every*
supermarket, but that was one of those 'quests' that kept me sane in my
first weeks in Japan. Another was peanut butter and blackberry jam.
John W.
Fabian
"Joey Bananas" hu kiteb
> Is it possible to get it in Saitama at a butcher or nikuya???
Sure it is.
> I don't mean this shit they call bacon over here that is like ham or
> the so-called "canadian bacon" I mean good ol' USA type cook it crispy
> and dark type pigfat.
Yes, that too can be had here.
> Flame me if you wish but I am new to this country and still learning
> the language and don't know a fucking soul except these condescending
> brit assholes at work.
Being new to teh country is no crime. Calling Brits assholes for the
sole crime of being Brits is like calling you an asshole for the sole
crime of being American.
Although given your attitude, it would be fair to call you an asshole
for teh sole crime of being you.
> And I am not trying to offend any brits here.
Well, you succeeded remarkably without even trying then. Arsehole.
> Just the yank-hating
> assholes and I don't give a fuck about their reasons as I don't give
> them one to hate me.
Actually, you gave me a very good reason to hate you.
> WHEW!!!!!!
>
> Glad to be able to blow that shit off. Please refer to my original
> american style bacon question.
> IOW,if I go to a nikuya how do I explain the cut of bacon that Iwant?
I was going to help you, but, well, fuck you and your attitude.
--
--
Fabian
I hate having to put on a show of being mean, but it seems the only way
to avoid people being mean to you these days is to be mean yourself.
Michael Cash
belched the alphabet and kept on going with:
>
>"Joey Bananas" hu kiteb
>
>> Is it possible to get it in Saitama at a butcher or nikuya???
>
>Sure it is.
>
>> I don't mean this shit they call bacon over here that is like ham or
>> the so-called "canadian bacon" I mean good ol' USA type cook it crispy
>> and dark type pigfat.
>
>Yes, that too can be had here.
>
>> Flame me if you wish but I am new to this country and still learning
>> the language and don't know a fucking soul except these condescending
>> brit assholes at work.
>
>Being new to teh country is no crime. Calling Brits assholes for the
>sole crime of being Brits is like calling you an asshole for the sole
>crime of being American.
Read more carefully. You skipped the adjective.
>
>
>Although given your attitude, it would be fair to call you an asshole
>for teh sole crime of being you.
Read more carefully. You skipped the adjective.
>
>> And I am not trying to offend any brits here.
>
>Well, you succeeded remarkably without even trying then. Arsehole.
Read more carefully. You skipped the adjective.
>
>> Just the yank-hating
>> assholes and I don't give a fuck about their reasons as I don't give
>> them one to hate me.
>
>Actually, you gave me a very good reason to hate you.
Read more carefully. You skipped the adjective.
>
>> WHEW!!!!!!
>>
>> Glad to be able to blow that shit off. Please refer to my original
>> american style bacon question.
>> IOW,if I go to a nikuya how do I explain the cut of bacon that Iwant?
>
>I was going to help you, but, well, fuck you and your attitude.
Read more carefully. You skipped the adjective.
And I will add that one of the things I hated about teaching English
was sometimes finding myself having to work with condescending British
assholes. I have a natural predisposition to *like* people from
Ukland, but for every likable Uklander I met I would meet at least a
couple whose attitude made it very clear that they had a natural
predisposition to dislike me and look down on me for the sole crime of
being American.
Meeting Uklanders like that, I was moved to muse, "No wonder we had a
revolution."
Joey Bananas
Sure have Mr. Wiseacre! And the cut they sell at the supermarkets
around here is not the same cut as in the US. You know,the kind that
gets CRISPY. And DARK.
>
> God bless you, and welcome to the group.
And I thank you,Mr. Wisacre sir.
> You're Sepponian; which is all that is required.
> >
Luckily for me I have lurked this group long enough to understand the
term Sepponian. And I could give a fuck about anyone who hates me
because of that fact. I generally only dislike people due to their
level of assholism as opposed to their nationality regardless of where
they are from. I like nice people no matter what godforsaken island
they've crept from. But if they start given me that snooty
"HMMMmmmm,Yank." thing then piss on them.
> Ryan is real good at miming stuff. Maybe he can help.
Well,he certainly made a noble effort to help and I will be thanking
him for that.
Joey Bananas
That was nice of you.
Joey Bananas
> >
> It depends on whether or not they have smoked meat. Probably a bit far,
> but is it possible for a non-military person to go onbase to the PX?
> They should deffinitely have it there.
>
> In Kobe/Himeji my local supermarket had it. Granted it wasn't *every*
> supermarket, but that was one of those 'quests' that kept me sane in my
> first weeks in Japan. Another was peanut butter and blackberry jam.
>
> John W.
Ahhhhh....don't know if I can go on base or not.
Oh well,if I can't find it then I can't find and will have to live without.
That's ok,though. I didn't come to Japan to eat crispy bacon.
Michael Cash
belched the alphabet and kept on going with:
>> Have you checked your local supermarket?
>
>
>Sure have Mr. Wiseacre! And the cut they sell at the supermarkets
>around here is not the same cut as in the US. You know,the kind that
>gets CRISPY. And DARK.
>
>>
>> God bless you, and welcome to the group.
>
>And I thank you,Mr. Wisacre sir.
Come to think of it, maybe Fabian had a point.
Ryan Ginstrom
No problem. You've got to help out a man who appreciates good bacon.
Besides, I figured that an American was the only person likely to help you
out.
Some more thoughts on bacon. In general, Americans expect bacon to be sliced
thinly (buying a side of bacon and slicing yourself can take care of that),
fatty, moist/soft, and cured and smoked. They also expect to get an actual
chunk of pig, not something that has been diced, chopped, processed, and
pressed back into strips.
Japanese "bacon" fails on most of these counts.
To tell the truth, I like those thick, meaty slices of bacon. That's the
kind of stuff that you get from top butchers in the states, or what used to
be labeled "home style" or "country style" (I couldn't find any of this sort
of bacon in the supermarket aisles on my last trip, though). But if it's a
taste of home you want, you can probably get by just by slicing a really
fatty side of bacon quite thin. I would go for the stuff that can be eaten
raw -- that will usually be softer.
When you get over your craving for comfort food, here is a great way to
enjoy good Japanese bacon.
Get a side of bacon that has been cured and smoked. Cut into 1/4 inch
slices. Fry up in raayu (or sesame oil if you don't have it) until crispy
around the edges, and sprinkle generously with ichimi (or shichimi or
cayenne pepper). Bring directly to the table, WITHOUT TOWELING OFF FAT,
stopping at the fridge for a beer or three.
If you have a good amount of fat left in the pan, use it as dressing for a
salad of lettuce, tomato, avocado, and cheese.
--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom
Ryan Ginstrom
>
> Come to think of it, maybe Fabian had a point.
I just figure he's on the verge of a culture-shock meltdown. Why else get so
upset about bacon?
I know I went through it, you probably did too -- luckily for us though, we
weren't posting to usenet at the time.
--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom
Ryan Ginstrom
> And I will add that one of the things I hated about teaching English
> was sometimes finding myself having to work with condescending British
> assholes. I have a natural predisposition to *like* people from
> Ukland, but for every likable Uklander I met I would meet at least a
> couple whose attitude made it very clear that they had a natural
> predisposition to dislike me and look down on me for the sole crime of
> being American.
>
> Meeting Uklanders like that, I was moved to muse, "No wonder we had a
> revolution."
Brits didn't bother me too much. Being completely incapable of understanding
irony, I am impervious to all their sophisticated little barbs. It's like
trying to cut a bowl of milk in half with a knife -- they're using the wrong
instrument.
Or like trying to insult the Japanese love of nature by telling them, "And
the best thing about nature in Japan is no matter how pristine the
wilderness, you can be sure of finding a vending machine within 100 meters."
It just doesn't work.
--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom
Michael Cash
<gins...@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going with:
>
>"Michael Cash" <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> wrote in message
>news:8di7mvc2nrnkqgcc9...@4ax.com...
>> On 13 Sep 2003 18:26:26 -0700, lick...@yahoo.com (Joey Bananas)
>> >And I thank you,Mr. Wisacre sir.
>>
>> Come to think of it, maybe Fabian had a point.
>
>I just figure he's on the verge of a culture-shock meltdown.
After only a month or so? God help him through the remaining 11
months.
>Why else get so
>upset about bacon?
Or about being sincerely welcomed to the group by someone who can most
definitely identify with having to work with condescending Uklanders.
>
>I know I went through it, you probably did too -- luckily for usenet though, we
>weren't posting to usenet at the time.
I fixed your typo.
Joey Bananas
being silly. But since I am not the kind of net user who sticks little
smiley faces and stuff in my posts you wouldn't know that. You were
being friendly and I do appreciate it.
Fabio,refer to Michaels reaction to your reaction to my post. In the
meantime,fuck off.
Ryan,your recipe sounds awesome and will be tried out over here very
soon.
Thanks
mr.sumo snr.
> >Why else get so
> >upset about bacon?
>
> Or about being sincerely welcomed to the group by someone who can most
> definitely identify with having to work with condescending Uklanders.
> >
But too much of any particular nation-race is bound to get on any
life-gaijin's tits. Afterall, surely one of the reasons we choose to live
here is because there is something fundamentally unappealing about our home
countries. Subjectively speaking of course.
In a rather pathetic defense of the 'Angel Isle' I would say that facetious
and somewhat condesceding we may well be to other English-speaking types, it
in no way compares to the utter contempt a large majority of us have for our
own nation, heritage, culture, language and general way of life. I have
rarely if ever heard a 'Brit' exclaim "proud to be British" and we generally
adopt a somewhat submissive position when it comes to any criticism of our
country.
I would in fact be interested to know what Canajuns, Austrians or Sepponians
think whenever they spot a fellow countryman adorned in a article of
clothing bearing their nation's flag. Most 'Uklanders' would consider the
fellow to be a idiot for wearing the 'Union Jack' - a product of the
Ibiza-tripping, Beckham worshipping, Estuary-classes. Remove the person
200km down the M4 to Cardiff, obviously replace the Union Jack for the Red
Dragon, on match day at the new temple of rugby - The Millennium Stadium -
and you have a proud member of the Celtic races. Someone to be admired for
his nationalism - as well as his large waistline!
--
jonathan
Fabian
"Joey Bananas" wrote in the snow:
> Michael,you misread me. I didn't mean to sound like a prick. I was
> being silly. But since I am not the kind of net user who sticks little
> smiley faces and stuff in my posts you wouldn't know that. You were
> being friendly and I do appreciate it.
>
> Fabio,refer to Michaels reaction to your reaction to my post. In the
> meantime,fuck off.
Fabio is a very famous (at least he is back in Europe amongst certain
circles) porn star, who is allegedly very well hung indeed. I thank you
for the compliment, but sadly, I don't get anywhere near as much sex as
he does, but I will certainly try to be more like him and fuck off
everywhere. I, on the other hand, am Fabian, and I'll thank you to get
my name right.
Oh, and Michael in a later post said that I probably had a point.
Personally, I am predisposed to like most people, but when they go
around labelling entire nations as a bunch of assholes, it kinda winds
me up and makes me cranky.
This isn't even personal for me. I don't regard myself as a Brit. But I
still find blanket criticism of a nation repugnant.
Declan Murphy
> I would in fact be interested to know what Canajuns, Austrians or Sepponians
> think whenever they spot a fellow countryman adorned in a article of
> clothing bearing their nation's flag.
With the sole exception of blokes wearing football jerseys (last years
world cup fersinstance or the rugger next month) staggering completely
langered out of pubs, my usual reaction is a dry wretch.
Depending on whether we won or lost, the exception sometimes involves a
wet wretch.
--
"Having tried intelligence to win the war on terrorism and achieved
mixed results - bad and worse - the defense department has decided to go
the other way and give stupidity a chance." - Alan Abelson
Joey Bananas
> circles) porn star, who is allegedly very well hung indeed. I thank you
> for the compliment, but sadly, I don't get anywhere near as much sex as
> he does, but I will certainly try to be more like him and fuck off
> everywhere. I, on the other hand, am Fabian, and I'll thank you to get
> my name right.
Fabio,
That all sounds very alternative.
As in alternative lifestyle.
As in you might be good on the new Bravo network program ,"Queer Eye
for the Straight Guy".
> Oh, and Michael in a later post said that I probably had a point.
Good for you.
> Personally, I am predisposed to like most people, but when they go
> around labelling entire nations as a bunch of assholes, it kinda winds
> me up and makes me cranky.
And when did I do that? I referred to my coworkers as condescending
brit assholes. Let's see,they're condescending. They're British. And
they're assholes.
Condescending brit assholes.
Now,did I say brits are condescending assholes?
No.
Did I say fuck the brits?
No.
Did I say England sucks,fuck the uk?
No.
Know why?
Because I don't believe those things nor do I feel that way about
England or it's people. That's why.
> This isn't even personal for me. I don't regard myself as a Brit. But I
> still find blanket criticism of a nation repugnant.
>
Me too.
Joey
Haluk
"Ryan Ginstrom" <gins...@hotmail.com>, haber iletisinde sunlari
yazdi:bk0idi$o99uu$1...@ID-101276.news.uni-berlin.de...
> ...
> Some more thoughts on bacon. In general, Americans expect bacon to be
sliced
> thinly (buying a side of bacon and slicing yourself can take care of
that),
> fatty, moist/soft, and cured and smoked. They also expect to get an actual
> chunk of pig, not something that has been diced, chopped, processed, and
> pressed back into strips.
>
And please allow me to add:
According to P. J. O'Rourke a good bacon can cook itself when lit with a
Zippo.
Ryan Ginstrom
Ryan Ginstrom
"Haluk" <yokoo...@spam.net> wrote in message
news:bk3lnu$oprob$1...@ID-201738.news.uni-berlin.de...
> And please allow me to add:
> According to P. J. O'Rourke a good bacon can cook itself when lit with a
> Zippo.
I guess the Japanese equivalent would be, good bacon doesn't need to be
cooked at all. But I think it would take a bit of intestinal fortitude (in
both senses) to eat raw pig that's been sitting in some shed for a couple
months.
--
Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom
Haluk
yazd?:bk3r1m$nn9vd$1...@ID-101276.news.uni-berlin.de...
No fortitude from me. I don't eat pork. They lack personality :)
Brett Robson
>
>Is it possible to get it in Saitama at a butcher or nikuya???
>
>I don't mean this shit they call bacon over here that is like ham or
>the so-called "canadian bacon" I mean good ol' USA type cook it crispy
>and dark type pigfat.
>
>Flame me if you wish but I am new to this country and still learning
>the language and don't know a fucking soul except these condescending
>brit assholes at work.
>
>And I am not trying to offend any brits here. Just the yank-hating
>assholes and I don't give a fuck about their reasons as I don't give
>them one to hate me.
Hey lighten up a bit, they probably haven't ever met an adult with the name
"Joey" before and of course they feel a bit intimidated that you have the
world's number one military, put a man on the moon, and invented television.
Plus they they probably finally managed to get their students to
pronounce the t in butter,
the oh sound in Boston,
the or sound in New York,
the chu in tuesday, tune, and tuna,
stop using terms such as wanna, gonna,
say route as in Route 66
recognise parts of speech
and they don't want you stuffing it up.
Don't worry most (many?) Seppos get beaten into shape after about 6 months and
turn out to be quite decent people. We'll still laugh occasionally at your
strange colonial English.
Here's some tips
don't start every sentence with "In the US ..." (or wherever you are from)
whatever the US has achieved, you haven't
things that are dichotomies in the US may not be in the rest of the world eg
Republican/Democratic, Communism/Capitalism, Right/Wrong
we barely know where some of the bigger US states are let alone xxx county.
.
----
"One way for us to be be seen as the ugly American is to go around the world
saying we do it this way so should you"
- Gov George W Bush
John W.
Yeah, but it sure does taste good sometimes. I know it can be bought,
though; my wife (Japanese) makes a very nice bacon and asparagus dish
that can only be made properly (according to her Japanese cookbook) if
you use smoked bacon. Mmmmm... bacon....
John W.