Passports?
Simon
will be the first time we have visited Japan since the birth of our baby, my
wife is Japanese and tells me that it is better if our baby has a Japanese
passport as well as an English one.
Do any of you have any experience of this, she tells me that because Daniel
(our son) is registered in Japan as well as England it's easier if he has
both passports.
Obviously I don't want to have to spend all that extra money if there is no
reason to do so, so I'd appreciate any information anyone can give me.
Simon.
Haluk Skywalker
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Read the previous posts please. There is some valuable information
particularly under "Alien registration for kids". There are plenty of other
information if your ng server stores older messages.
Ryan Ginstrom
"Simon" <shep...@excite.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all, this year I will be visiting Japan with my wife and baby son. It
> will be the first time we have visited Japan since the birth of our baby,
my
> wife is Japanese and tells me that it is better if our baby has a Japanese
> passport as well as an English one.
If it's just a visit, then you can get by without one. Also, IIR up to a
certain age just a copy of the koseki is enough to show he is a Japanese
citizen, although they will tell you to get a passport as soon as possible
at customs (ask your local embassy/consulate for details).
> Do any of you have any experience of this, she tells me that because
Daniel
> (our son) is registered in Japan as well as England it's easier if he has
> both passports.
> Obviously I don't want to have to spend all that extra money if there is
no
> reason to do so, so I'd appreciate any information anyone can give me.
> Simon.
Dude, if you can't afford to buy a passport for your kid, what in Gawd's
name are you doing traveling to Japan?
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Ryan Ginstrom
mr.sumo.snr
As indicated elsewhere if its just for a short visit (up to 6 months
http://tinyurl.com/2jp8o) then just use his 'British' passport.
http://tinyurl.com/255r7
I can't imagine any situation where a Japanese passport for an eligible
child living in the UK would be of any benefit - unless you are planning to
move here semi-permanently. There are some potentially more controversial
issues, but I don't think it's necessary to read more in to what your wife
has said to you. It is true that most of the newsgroup's members' children
probably have two passports. The Japanese passport is best used for travel
to and from Japan - as would a British passport be for travel to and from
the UK.
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jonathan
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"Simon" <shep...@excite.com> wrote in message
> Hi all, this year I will be visiting Japan with my wife and baby son.
...
> Obviously I don't want to have to spend all that extra money if there is
no
> reason to do so, so I'd appreciate any information anyone can give me.
If your wife wants her new lover to take the baby to another country, the
passport is necessary. Otherwise, the kid could be just added to your or her
passport.
I say that like that, that'd be completely incredible...but I've read so
many stories on this NG.
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mr.sumo.snr
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> "Simon" <shep...@excite.com> wrote in message
>
> > Hi all, this year I will be visiting Japan with my wife and baby son.
> ...
> > Obviously I don't want to have to spend all that extra money if there is
> no
> > reason to do so, so I'd appreciate any information anyone can give me.
>
> If your wife wants her new lover to take the baby to another country, the
> passport is necessary. Otherwise, the kid could be just added to your or
her
> passport.
err...sorry - not on a British passport. All such children now need their
own passport. It's a child abduction prevention thingy - as well as being a
making more money thingy.
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jonathan
Simon
"Ryan Ginstrom" <gins...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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By the way I can afford a passport, it just seems pointless spending money
if I don't have to. I can get very drunk on the price of a passport!
Simon.
Haluk Skywalker
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> err...sorry - not on a British passport. All such children now need their
> own passport. It's a child abduction prevention thingy - as well as being
a
> making more money thingy.
>
> --
> jonathan
>
You may be right, but exactly how does it make child abduction any
difficult. To me it seems like these passports make abduction by parent
(custody by simple possession?) more convenient. What am I missing?
mr.sumo.snr
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Yeah...like...as was indicated to the guy the other week who was permitting
his children to be abused and asked us for some 'objective' advice: if the
children's passports are locked up in a bank safe deposit box or placed in
the hands of an attorney or even just a trusted friend or relative then it's
pretty difficult to abduct a child out of the country. In that specific
case in was the USA - I don't know what their laws are regarding children's
passports - I would imagine similar to the UK.
It used to be the case that you could just write the name of any minors
traveling with you in a space provided on your own passport. You can no
longer do that. You'll need an individual passport for the child. If you
apply for a passport when they already have one it'll 'red flag' in the
system and I would expect inquiries would be made. For example when
parents, who have separated, both make applications for a passport for the
same child - especially if one of those parents is from another country.
I'm not an immigration officer, but that's more or less how I imagine the
system works - when it does.
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jonathan
Louise Bremner
> "mr.sumo.snr" <llanelli...@yahoo.com>, iletide flunu yazd‡
Both more convenient and less--with the older system (in which minor
children were listed on a parent's passport), that parent could simply
use that passport to take that child abroad, but the other parent could
not take the child abroad on hir own.
With the newer system, you need to have both child and passport in your
possession.
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Kamus of Kadizhar
> Yeah...like...as was indicated to the guy the other week who was permitting
> his children to be abused and asked us for some 'objective' advice: if the
> children's passports are locked up in a bank safe deposit box or placed in
> the hands of an attorney or even just a trusted friend or relative then it's
> pretty difficult to abduct a child out of the country. In that specific
> case in was the USA - I don't know what their laws are regarding children's
> passports - I would imagine similar to the UK.
>
In the US, you now have to appear *in person* - *both* parents *with* the
child to apply for the poor kid's passport. A real pain, IMHO.
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"mr.sumo.snr" <llanelli...@yahoo.com> wrote in message :
> err...sorry - not on a British passport. All such children now need their
> own passport.
Yeah, I had forgotten the new Bush-format electronic assisted passports
couldn't carry brats' names. That will take 6 or 7 years for the French
administration to replace all the old-style passports and in between they
can change their mind again.
>It's a child abduction prevention thingy -
You know well you've never needed a passport to abduct a child or anyone out
of UK. If they really wanted to do something usefull, they'd deliver
children IDs indicating the name and adress of the person(s) that have the
custody. That could serve even to prevent abduction inside the country.
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Ryan Ginstrom
> You know well you've never needed a passport to abduct a child or anyone
out
> of UK. If they really wanted to do something usefull, they'd deliver
> children IDs indicating the name and adress of the person(s) that have
the
> custody. That could serve even to prevent abduction inside the country.
You know what would be really useful? Ear tags.
Ear tags with built-in radio transmitters.
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Ryan Ginstrom
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"Ryan Ginstrom" <gins...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> You know what would be really useful? Ear tags.
Cows have some. That's useless. In my countryside, the gangs of cattle
thieves just cut off the ears and let them in the field.
> Ear tags with built-in radio transmitters.
Ah that...All the kids in Osaka already have one.
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Ryan Ginstrom
Cow ears with built-in radio transmitters?
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Ryan Ginstrom
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"Ryan Ginstrom" <gins...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > Ear tags with built-in radio transmitters.
> >
> > Ah that...All the kids in Osaka already have one.
>
> Cow ears with built-in radio transmitters?
You can say it that way. Your son is not yet equiped with a GPS ketai denwa
?
How do you expect the police to find him if he gets problems while doing a
baito of selling his ass to old perverts ? Oh...I forgot you were not in
Osaka, maybe he doesn't need to.
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