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Life in Japan members:Did anyone get that Microsoft Update Patch Virus? because I think one of you sent it to me--read on.....

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Penny

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Jul 9, 2003, 12:57:31 AM7/9/03
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I recieved a forwarded email from someone with the UPDATE Microsoft
patch virus.
The reason Im asking here is because as far as I know this place is
the only place Ive posted anything, and its a fairly new account.
There was a long list of email addresses enclosed in the forwarded
mail, many of these had the address @neis.cr.usgs.gov which seems
to belong to the Earthquake Hazards Program.

can anyone add anymore info or figure out if its just I who is
recieving this mail?

Michael Cash

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Jul 9, 2003, 8:55:54 AM7/9/03
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On 8 Jul 2003 21:57:31 -0700, pennypo...@yahoo.co.uk (Penny)
belched the alphabet and kept on going with:

I get that shit all the time. Using a "dumb" reader (Agent) is more
than sufficient to take care of any worries about accidentally
executing the thing. But using Norton Systemworks to scan my incoming
mail provides a very nice additional level of protection. It also
scans my outbound mail to help make sure I'm not passing any virii
("viruses" for those of you in Rio Linda) along to others. Again,
Agent pretty much prevents that from happening anyway, but the scan is
a nice addition.


--

Michael Cash

"There was a time, Mr. Cash, when I believed you must be the most useless
thing in the world. But that was before I read a Microsoft help file."

Prof. Ernest T. Bass
Mount Pilot College


http://www.sunfield.ne.jp/~mike/

Bryan Parker

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Jul 9, 2003, 9:25:01 AM7/9/03
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Michael Cash <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> said:

>("viruses" for those of you in Rio Linda)

Jason bait ALERT! Code blue. Jason bait ALERT!


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"Unusually gaijenerous in his judgment of people")

Darrien

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Jul 9, 2003, 9:50:13 AM7/9/03
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>>I recieved a forwarded email from someone with the UPDATE Microsoft
>>patch virus.
>>The reason Im asking here is because as far as I know this place is
>>the only place Ive posted anything, and its a fairly new account.
>>There was a long list of email addresses enclosed in the forwarded
>>mail, many of these had the address @neis.cr.usgs.gov which seems
>>to belong to the Earthquake Hazards Program.
>>
>>can anyone add anymore info or figure out if its just I who is
>>recieving this mail?
>
> I get that shit all the time. Using a "dumb" reader (Agent) is more
> than sufficient to take care of any worries about accidentally
> executing the thing. But using Norton Systemworks to scan my incoming
> mail provides a very nice additional level of protection. It also
> scans my outbound mail to help make sure I'm not passing any virii
> ("viruses" for those of you in Rio Linda) along to others. Again,
> Agent pretty much prevents that from happening anyway, but the scan is
> a nice addition.
>

Actually, "Virus" has no plural.

Therefore, it is up to the rules of the language in which it's being used
to determine how to pluralise it.

Hence, the plural of "Virus" (in English) is "Viruses"

http://www.perl.com/language/misc/virus.html

Michael Cash

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Jul 9, 2003, 10:17:04 AM7/9/03
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On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 22:25:01 +0900, Bryan Parker
<puntspe...@yahoo.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
with:

>Michael Cash <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> said:


>
>>("viruses" for those of you in Rio Linda)
>
>Jason bait ALERT! Code blue. Jason bait ALERT!

I don't think he actually *listens* to the show. Does he?

Michael Cash

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Jul 9, 2003, 10:26:42 AM7/9/03
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On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 13:50:13 GMT, "Darrien"
<Darrien...@NA.COM@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on
going with:

>>>I recieved a forwarded email from someone with the UPDATE Microsoft


>>>patch virus.
>>>The reason Im asking here is because as far as I know this place is
>>>the only place Ive posted anything, and its a fairly new account.
>>>There was a long list of email addresses enclosed in the forwarded
>>>mail, many of these had the address @neis.cr.usgs.gov which seems
>>>to belong to the Earthquake Hazards Program.
>>>
>>>can anyone add anymore info or figure out if its just I who is
>>>recieving this mail?
>>
>> I get that shit all the time. Using a "dumb" reader (Agent) is more
>> than sufficient to take care of any worries about accidentally
>> executing the thing. But using Norton Systemworks to scan my incoming
>> mail provides a very nice additional level of protection. It also
>> scans my outbound mail to help make sure I'm not passing any virii
>> ("viruses" for those of you in Rio Linda) along to others. Again,
>> Agent pretty much prevents that from happening anyway, but the scan is
>> a nice addition.
>>
>
>Actually, "Virus" has no plural.

It does if I say it does, Mr. Smarty Pants.


>
>Therefore, it is up to the rules of the language in which it's being used
>to determine how to pluralise it.

I wrote it in my language. So I get to make the rules. "Virii" it is.
You may wish to make a note of it, as it may appear on the final exam.


>
>Hence, the plural of "Virus" (in English) is "Viruses"
>
>http://www.perl.com/language/misc/virus.html

I'll see your perl.com and raise you a Harvard Divinity School.

http://www.hds.harvard.edu/its/docs/virus.html

And in the course of my googling, my pedantic friend, I discover that
if you want to object to "virii" then you really also ought to object
to "virus" being used to refer to a single object as well. Apparently,
it was a mass noun, having neither singular nor plural form.

Bryan Parker

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Jul 9, 2003, 11:07:36 AM7/9/03
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Michael Cash <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> said:

>On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 22:25:01 +0900, Bryan Parker
><puntspe...@yahoo.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
>with:
>
>>Michael Cash <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> said:
>>
>>>("viruses" for those of you in Rio Linda)
>>
>>Jason bait ALERT! Code blue. Jason bait ALERT!
>
>I don't think he actually *listens* to the show. Does he?

As long as he's finished with the sports pages, I
wouldn't put it past him. He's one of those guys
that likes to know stuff about stuff so that he
can teach other people about the stuff when he
thinks they might not know enough about said
stuff.

Kevin Gowen

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Jul 9, 2003, 2:12:33 PM7/9/03
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Bryan Parker wrote:
> Michael Cash <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> said:
>
>> ("viruses" for those of you in Rio Linda)
>
> Jason bait ALERT! Code blue. Jason bait ALERT!

Well, the plural of virus is "viruses", so I must confess to being whooshed.
To get "virii", you would need to have a word, "virius", and "viri" is the
nominative plural of "vir" (man). Please enlighten.

--
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"The US economy accounts for about one-third of global GDP-greater than
the next four countries combined (Japan, Germany, the United Kingdom
and France)."
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Michael Cash

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Jul 9, 2003, 3:16:21 PM7/9/03
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On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:12:33 -0400, "Kevin Gowen"
<kgowen...@myfastmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
with:

>Bryan Parker wrote:


>> Michael Cash <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> said:
>>
>>> ("viruses" for those of you in Rio Linda)
>>
>> Jason bait ALERT! Code blue. Jason bait ALERT!
>
>Well, the plural of virus is "viruses", so I must confess to being whooshed.
>To get "virii", you would need to have a word, "virius", and "viri" is the
>nominative plural of "vir" (man). Please enlighten.

Pig Latin? (Nah, didn't think you'd buy that).

Kevin Gowen

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Jul 9, 2003, 3:29:27 PM7/9/03
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Michael Cash wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:12:33 -0400, "Kevin Gowen"
> <kgowen...@myfastmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
> with:
>
>> Bryan Parker wrote:
>>> Michael Cash <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> said:
>>>
>>>> ("viruses" for those of you in Rio Linda)
>>>
>>> Jason bait ALERT! Code blue. Jason bait ALERT!
>>
>> Well, the plural of virus is "viruses", so I must confess to being
>> whooshed. To get "virii", you would need to have a word, "virius",
>> and "viri" is the nominative plural of "vir" (man). Please enlighten.
>
> Pig Latin? (Nah, didn't think you'd buy that).

I meant the Rio Linda bit.

Bryan Parker

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Jul 9, 2003, 6:38:25 PM7/9/03
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"Kevin Gowen" <kgowen...@myfastmail.com> said:

>Michael Cash wrote:
>> On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 14:12:33 -0400, "Kevin Gowen"
>> <kgowen...@myfastmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on going
>> with:
>>
>>> Bryan Parker wrote:
>>>> Michael Cash <mike...@sunfield.ne.jp> said:
>>>>
>>>>> ("viruses" for those of you in Rio Linda)
>>>>
>>>> Jason bait ALERT! Code blue. Jason bait ALERT!
>>>
>>> Well, the plural of virus is "viruses", so I must confess to being
>>> whooshed. To get "virii", you would need to have a word, "virius",
>>> and "viri" is the nominative plural of "vir" (man). Please enlighten.
>>
>> Pig Latin? (Nah, didn't think you'd buy that).
>
>I meant the Rio Linda bit.

It's a Rush Limbaugh line.

Penny

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Jul 9, 2003, 8:40:58 PM7/9/03
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pennypo...@yahoo.co.uk (Penny) wrote in message news:<4c99db24.03070...@posting.google.com>...

My main point wasnt about HOW it arrived at my mail box. Im not
worried about the virus itself. I only use this email account to post
to THIS newsgroup.
The question was really about how it managed to find its way to my in
box when only this newsgroup has it.
Thats the reason why I asked.
So if none of you have had this particular mail then Im completely
stumped as to how its found its way to me via people i dont know.

Brett Robson

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Jul 9, 2003, 9:09:07 PM7/9/03
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On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 13:50:13 GMT, "Darrien" ...

I can't believe you cited perl dot com. What a geek, Larry would be proud of
you.

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offending non-Christians." - Ben Shapiro 27/2/2003

Scott Reynolds

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Jul 10, 2003, 12:55:45 AM7/10/03
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On 7/10/2003 9:40 AM, Penny wrote:

> My main point wasnt about HOW it arrived at my mail box. Im not
> worried about the virus itself. I only use this email account to post
> to THIS newsgroup.

Actually, one does not normally use an email account to post to
newsgroups. I think you mean to say that you only use this email address
as your return address when you post to this newsgroup.

> The question was really about how it managed to find its way to my in
> box when only this newsgroup has it.

Clearly, a spammer (most probably, several spammers) now have it.

> Thats the reason why I asked.
> So if none of you have had this particular mail then Im completely
> stumped as to how its found its way to me via people i dont know.

I've received countless copies of the UPDATE Microsoft patch spam, and
I'm sure most of the other participants in this newsgroup has as well.
It's just that since spam is so ubiquitous these days I don't really
worry much about where it came from. I'm more concerned with making sure
it is identified properly by my filtering software so that I can dispose
of it efficiently.

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Greg Macdonald

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Jul 10, 2003, 1:03:58 AM7/10/03
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On 9 Jul 2003 17:40:58 -0700, pennypo...@yahoo.co.uk (Penny) used
up some bandwidth to say:

>The question was really about how it managed to find its way to my in
>box when only this newsgroup has it.
>Thats the reason why I asked.
>So if none of you have had this particular mail then Im completely
>stumped as to how its found its way to me via people i dont know.

There are programs that scour usenet looking for valid e-mail
addresses, like the one you're posting with. The scumbag owners of
those programs then send gobs of spam email with or without viruses to
you. So it is very unlikely that anyone on this newsgroup actually
mailed anything to you....

One fix is to change the options on your newsreader program so that a
'fake' email address is posted, like mine:

mr_mac_...@SPAMSUCKShotmail.com

Take out the obvious part and you can email me. Spambots can't.


Darrien

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Jul 10, 2003, 11:28:50 AM7/10/03
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> [...]

>>http://www.perl.com/language/misc/virus.html
>
> I'll see your perl.com and raise you a Harvard Divinity School.
>
> http://www.hds.harvard.edu/its/docs/virus.html
>
> And in the course of my googling, my pedantic friend, I discover that
> if you want to object to "virii" then you really also ought to object
> to "virus" being used to refer to a single object as well. Apparently,
> it was a mass noun, having neither singular nor plural form.
>

Harvard supports me both ways:

* You may, from time to time, see the plural form of the word
"virus" written as "virii" rather than "viruses." Either is acceptable.


Main Entry: ac・cept・able
Pronunciation: ik-'sep-t&-b&l, ak- also ek-
Function: adjective
Date: 14th century

2 b : barely satisfactory or adequate

Michael Cash

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Jul 10, 2003, 5:36:41 PM7/10/03
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 15:28:50 GMT, "Darrien"

<Darrien...@NA.COM@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on
going with:

>> [...]


>>>http://www.perl.com/language/misc/virus.html
>>
>> I'll see your perl.com and raise you a Harvard Divinity School.
>>
>> http://www.hds.harvard.edu/its/docs/virus.html
>>
>> And in the course of my googling, my pedantic friend, I discover that
>> if you want to object to "virii" then you really also ought to object
>> to "virus" being used to refer to a single object as well. Apparently,
>> it was a mass noun, having neither singular nor plural form.
>>
>
>Harvard supports me both ways:

How do you figure that?


>
>* You may, from time to time, see the plural form of the word
>"virus" written as "virii" rather than "viruses." Either is acceptable.
>
>
>Main Entry: ac・cept・able
>Pronunciation: ik-'sep-t&-b&l, ak- also ek-
>Function: adjective
>Date: 14th century
>
>2 b : barely satisfactory or adequate

But what does "barely" mean. It means that it surpasses the threshold.
It is not unsatisfactory or inadequate. It is, therefore, both
satisfactory and adequate.

Darrien

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Jul 10, 2003, 9:30:45 PM7/10/03
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>>> [...]
>>>>http://www.perl.com/language/misc/virus.html
>>>
>>> I'll see your perl.com and raise you a Harvard Divinity School.
>>>
>>> http://www.hds.harvard.edu/its/docs/virus.html
>>>
>>> And in the course of my googling, my pedantic friend, I discover that
>>> if you want to object to "virii" then you really also ought to object
>>> to "virus" being used to refer to a single object as well. Apparently,
>>> it was a mass noun, having neither singular nor plural form.
>>>
>>
>>Harvard supports me both ways:
>
> How do you figure that?
>>
>>* You may, from time to time, see the plural form of the word
>>"virus" written as "virii" rather than "viruses." Either is acceptable.
>>
>>
>>Main Entry: ac・cept・able
>>Pronunciation: ik-'sep-t&-b&l, ak- also ek-
>>Function: adjective
>>Date: 14th century
>>
>>2 b : barely satisfactory or adequate
>
> But what does "barely" mean. It means that it surpasses the threshold.
> It is not unsatisfactory or inadequate. It is, therefore, both
> satisfactory and adequate.
>

But just barely

Michael Cash

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Jul 11, 2003, 8:43:38 AM7/11/03
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On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:30:45 GMT, "Darrien"

<Darrien...@NA.COM@hotmail.com> belched the alphabet and kept on
going with:

>>>> [...]

And that's all it takes.

I suppose when your dog is just barely dead you'll still take it for
walks? (Drags, perhaps).

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