No kidding?
Eric Takabayashi
Akebono-Sapp K-1 matchup:
"Sapp was originally supposed to fight Tyson, but had
to take on the sumo star after the former world
heavyweight champion's drug conviction prevented him
from getting an entry visa."
So Tyson actually agreed to fight Sapp. I'd like to
have seen that.
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> Included in the Mainichi's highly critical take of the
> Akebono-Sapp K-1 matchup:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2mrzb
>
> "Sapp was originally supposed to fight Tyson, but had
> to take on the sumo star after the former world
> heavyweight champion's drug conviction prevented him
> from getting an entry visa."
>
> So Tyson actually agreed to fight Sapp. I'd like to
> have seen that.
>
> --
Sort of sorry to hear this. I had hoped Akebono would put up a better
showing (not much hope but some).
Considering his current money and legal troubles I am not suprised
that Tyson would agree to fight Sapp - I think that could be a HUGE
payday for both gentlemen considering the international appeal and pay
per view money that fight is sure to bring in.
Eric Takabayashi
> Eric Takabayashi <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message news:<3FF38FC3...@yahoo.co.jp>...
> > Included in the Mainichi's highly critical take of the
> > Akebono-Sapp K-1 matchup:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/2mrzb
> >
> > "Sapp was originally supposed to fight Tyson, but had
> > to take on the sumo star after the former world
> > heavyweight champion's drug conviction prevented him
> > from getting an entry visa."
> >
> > So Tyson actually agreed to fight Sapp. I'd like to
> > have seen that.
>
> Sort of sorry to hear this. I had hoped Akebono would put up a better
> showing (not much hope but some).
Akebono put on a great show. He can take a hit, and he's not afraid of attacks to his legs. He
falls down, he gets up, which is rather surprising in itself. Before the match, I thought it would
be over for the person who got hit in the knees, but it was a punching match. We knew he's not
fast on his feet and tires in a few minutes.
What was too bad was seeing his family watching. I get the impression his new career is not
exactly something his wife likes.
> Considering his current money and legal troubles I am not suprised
> that Tyson would agree to fight Sapp - I think that could be a HUGE
> payday for both gentlemen considering the international appeal and pay
> per view money that fight is sure to bring in.
It would be a fine match, but I doubt it would be long, no matter which man won.
Brett Robson
>
>Akebono put on a great show. He can take a hit, and he's not afraid of attacks
>to his legs. He
>falls down, he gets up, which is rather surprising in itself. Before the match,
>I thought it would
>be over for the person who got hit in the knees, but it was a punching match. We
>knew he's not
>fast on his feet and tires in a few minutes.
You must have been watching a different match to the rest of us. If Akebono
could in fact take a punch then he might have lasted a reasonable amount of
time. Akebono is an easy bleeder, I am surprised he wasn't covered in claret.
K-1 is for losers that have nothing else in the world to lose. It's a shame to
see a great champion like Akebono debase himself.
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Eric Takabayashi
> On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 19:09:25 +0900, Eric Takabayashi ...
> >
> >Akebono put on a great show. He can take a hit, and he's not afraid of attacks
> >to his legs. He
> >falls down, he gets up, which is rather surprising in itself. Before the match,
> >I thought it would
> >be over for the person who got hit in the knees, but it was a punching match. We
> >knew he's not
> >fast on his feet and tires in a few minutes.
>
> You must have been watching a different match to the rest of us. If Akebono
> could in fact take a punch then he might have lasted a reasonable amount of
> time.
How many punches in the head do other people take from Bob Sapp and how fast do they
regain their senses after being knocked out? Do they smile and exchange hugs after
quivering face down on the ground?
> Akebono is an easy bleeder,
Are people not supposed to bleed when Bob Sapp hits them in the nose?
> I am surprised he wasn't covered in claret.
>
> K-1 is for losers that have nothing else in the world to lose.
You mean the people who changed their jobs to enter K-1 like Bob Sapp who used to
think carrying bodies for $100 at the mortuary was good money prior to coming to
Japan yet now gripes that he's lost millions (on top of the three million he made
his first year) because of K-1 mishandling, or do you include the karate champions
who made the sport famous in Japan, too?
Have you ever watched Zenigata Kintaro on Thursday nights or spent time with a lot
of freeters to see people with no life? As long as they had a salary, a career in
K-1 would be an improvement for many.
> It's a shame to see a great champion like Akebono debase himself.
Yep. Can't imagine the money troubles which his sumo pension wouldn't be able to
take care of. But it is hard to understand how the big rikishi will allow themselves
to get so heavy or out of shape that they can't move, or injure their legs on a
regular basis to begin with. Konishiki is fortunate he is such an interesting man,
or he'd be a circus show.
Brett Robson
>
>>
>> You must have been watching a different match to the rest of us. If Akebono
>> could in fact take a punch then he might have lasted a reasonable amount of
>> time.
>
>How many punches in the head do other people take from Bob Sapp and how fast do
>they
>regain their senses after being knocked out? Do they smile and exchange hugs
>after
>quivering face down on the ground?
Any heavy weight boxer, Mike Tyson is a good example.
>
>> Akebono is an easy bleeder,
>
>Are people not supposed to bleed when Bob Sapp hits them in the nose?
>
There is no relationship between what I wrote and what you wrote. Akebono is an
easy bleeder, that has nothing to do with Bob Sapp. Akebono was bleeding after a
practice spa.
>> I am surprised he wasn't covered in claret.
>>
>> K-1 is for losers that have nothing else in the world to lose.
>
>You mean the people who changed their jobs to enter K-1 like Bob Sapp who used
>to
>think carrying bodies for $100 at the mortuary was good money
Yes that is exactly what I mean. Are you really that stupid or do you just not
read what has been written?
>Japan yet now gripes that he's lost millions (on top of the three million he
>made
>his first year) because of K-1 mishandling, or do you include the karate
>champions
>who made the sport famous in Japan, too?
>
How much money is in karate?
>Have you ever watched Zenigata Kintaro on Thursday nights or spent time with a
>lot
>of freeters to see people with no life? As long as they had a salary, a career
>in
>K-1 would be an improvement for many.
Thank you, you are making the point for me. You are really are stupid aren't
you?
>
>> It's a shame to see a great champion like Akebono debase himself.
>
>Yep. Can't imagine the money troubles which his sumo pension wouldn't be able to
>take care of.
You don't have to imagine, 5 minutes at google will explain exactly why Akebono
couldn't stay in sumo. The story is not simple, it involves him having to buy a
new name.
Eric Takabayashi
> >> K-1 is for losers that have nothing else in the world to lose.
> >
> >You mean the people who changed their jobs to enter K-1 like Bob Sapp who used
> >to
> >think carrying bodies for $100 at the mortuary was good money
>
> Yes that is exactly what I mean. Are you really that stupid or do you just not
> read what has been written?
I don't know, because you generalize too much as when saying "K-1 is for losers . .
. " or say Japan cannot move its forces anywhere or has no offensive capabilities
and has no landing craft when your precious Google would easily show you otherwise,
with photos. Are you talking about the European karate champions too?
> >Japan yet now gripes that he's lost millions (on top of the three million he
> >made
> >his first year) because of K-1 mishandling, or do you include the karate
> >champions
> >who made the sport famous in Japan, too?
>
> How much money is in karate?
It depends on how good they are. I don't believe the Europeans such as Andy Hug were
losers.
> >Have you ever watched Zenigata Kintaro on Thursday nights or spent time with a
> >lot
> >of freeters to see people with no life? As long as they had a salary, a career
> >in
> >K-1 would be an improvement for many.
>
> Thank you, you are making the point for me. You are really are stupid aren't
> you?
No, even Bob Sapp before K-1 had a better life than most people on such shows.
> >> It's a shame to see a great champion like Akebono debase himself.
> >
> >Yep. Can't imagine the money troubles which his sumo pension wouldn't be able to
> >take care of.
>
> You don't have to imagine,
I read the stories when they first came out.
> 5 minutes at google will explain exactly why Akebono
> couldn't stay in sumo. The story is not simple, it involves him having to buy a
> new name.
And why can't he get that money like any other much less popular or successful, and
much lower ranked retired wrestler who becomes an oyakata?
mr.sumo snr.
> Akebono put on a great show. He can take a hit, and he's not afraid of
attacks to his legs. He
> falls down, he gets up, which is rather surprising in itself. Before the
match, I thought it would
> be over for the person who got hit in the knees, but it was a punching
match. We knew he's not
> fast on his feet and tires in a few minutes.
>
> What was too bad was seeing his family watching. I get the impression his
new career is not
> exactly something his wife likes.
>
I got the distinct impression that the presence of Akebono's wife and kids
was more or less part of 'the deal'. We'll pay you X-million so long as
it's not just you getting a beating but the viewing public also get to see
the missus shed a few tears - I was somewhat reminded of the end of 'Rocky'.
This of course sets up a great tv-special profiling Akebono's attempts to
recover from this humiliation. He gets back into serious training -
including shedding at least 30-40 kgs - and all the time the camera will cut
away to showed pained expressions on his wife's face etc.
Frankly I say good luck to guy. Make a bundle of money and retire to Hawaii
where he can open up a string of restaurants with Musashimaru.
Did anyone else notice that some form of extreme fighting was broadcast on
three of the networks at the same time last night. Will this become the
'new' thing to do on New Year's Eve? Guess it makes for an interesting
alternative to the Red/White song contest - though I'm sure Brett might
disagree - who was your favorite act last night - and did she perform before
9.00PM or afterwards?
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Eric Takabayashi
> "Eric Takabayashi" <eta...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message >
>
> > Akebono put on a great show. He can take a hit, and he's not afraid of
> attacks to his legs. He
> > falls down, he gets up, which is rather surprising in itself. Before the
> match, I thought it would
> > be over for the person who got hit in the knees, but it was a punching
> match. We knew he's not
> > fast on his feet and tires in a few minutes.
> >
> > What was too bad was seeing his family watching. I get the impression his
> new career is not
> > exactly something his wife likes.
>
> I got the distinct impression that the presence of Akebono's wife and kids
> was more or less part of 'the deal'. We'll pay you X-million so long as
> it's not just you getting a beating but the viewing public also get to see
> the missus shed a few tears - I was somewhat reminded of the end of 'Rocky'.
>
> This of course sets up a great tv-special profiling Akebono's attempts to
> recover from this humiliation.
I doubt it would last as long as the Tatsuyoshi Jo stories.
> He gets back into serious training -
> including shedding at least 30-40 kgs - and all the time the camera will cut
> away to showed pained expressions on his wife's face etc.
>
> Frankly I say good luck to guy.
Yes, but his career in K-1 against people who can move will not be a good one
if it lasts, and he doesn't seem to have the appeal Bob Sapp has to carry him
even if he doesn't win. If he had been able to slim down, move faster and avoid
injury, he could have stayed in sumo. Or basketball.
> Make a bundle of money and retire to Hawaii
> where he can open up a string of restaurants with Musashimaru.
>
> Did anyone else notice that some form of extreme fighting was broadcast on
> three of the networks at the same time last night.
Yep.
> Will this become the 'new' thing to do on New Year's Eve?
I hope not, because Royce Gracie and Bob Sapp were all I was looking forward to
all last night. Don Frye was a nice surprise. Such shows would be even more
tedious than waiting for something good to appear on the Kohaku.
> Guess it makes for an interesting
> alternative to the Red/White song contest - though I'm sure Brett might
> disagree - who was your favorite act last night - and did she perform before
> 9.00PM or afterwards?
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>
> Guess it makes for an interesting
>alternative to the Red/White song contest - though I'm sure Brett might
>disagree - who was your favorite act last night - and did she perform before
>9.00PM or afterwards?
>
I didn't see it I as was doing the samba, or at least my version of it in a
Brazilian club in Roppongi until the wee hours. I recorded the K-1 and watched
when I got up this afternoon. But my answer would be BOA but if she didn't sing
it would Natsumi Abe.
mtfe...@netmapsonscape.net
>>regain their senses after being knocked out? Do they smile and exchange hugs
>>after
>>quivering face down on the ground?
> Any heavy weight boxer, Mike Tyson is a good example.
Not really. They spend a lot of time learning to avoid a direct shot,
not learning how to take one.
>>Are people not supposed to bleed when Bob Sapp hits them in the nose?
>>
> There is no relationship between what I wrote and what you wrote. Akebono is an
> easy bleeder,
So was Jerry Quarry, or Tex Randall.
Mike
mr.sumo snr.
>
>
> I got the distinct impression that the presence of Akebono's wife and kids
> was more or less part of 'the deal'. We'll pay you X-million so long as
> it's not just you getting a beating but the viewing public also get to see
> the missus shed a few tears - I was somewhat reminded of the end of
'Rocky'.
>
And of course what should pop up at about 3.00 A.M. last night on Star
Channel but 'Rocky' - so it was an all-nighter with Series 3 Friends
marathon on FOX - only FOX broadcasts Friends in stereo - you have to pop
into the sub-menus to enable the English audio - and that resets every time
you switch channels. It never ceases to amaze me as to just how good
'Rocky' - the original - was and just how damn shite the sequels were. But
I nevertheless feel duty-bound to try and catch the sequels - which I'm sure
will appear over the next few days - since it would now appear de rigour to
watch programs with a fighting theme at this time of the year. In much the
same way that millions of UKlanders have come to associate James Bond with
Boxing Day afternoon viewing - even if it means sitting through Moonraker or
A View To A Kill (I'd rather eat turkey sandwiches every day for the next
three weeks - well actually I would!).
And I'm NOT talking about Christmas specials - but what movies can one
always expect to see on terrestrial television at this time of the year in
Sepponia, Canadia, and Austria?
In UKland it would be:
A James Bond serving
the Sound of bloody Music
The Great Escape - what else?
Something British which won the Oscar - Lawrence of Arabia, Bridge on the
River thingy, Ghandi, Chariots of Fire
either Notting Hill or Four Weddings
Wallace and Gromit (they also show this in Japan)
I even remember back in the 70's and 80's when this was a really big thing.
They showed the Bond flicks in the order of cinematic release but at the
rate of one every Christmas - so by 1981 I was probably up to The Man With
The Golden Gun (Bond 9 if you were wondering) - and it was a seriously big
event! It sounds so damn sad to say it now, but if I hunt around in the
closet under the stairs here I'll probably find the VHS of 'Star Wars' (Ep.
IV) that I remembering taping Christmas 1983 and thereafter watching
religiously until I'd memorized almost every line. It even has one TV
commercial taped - anyone remember THE Sony Trinitron ad?
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"mr.sumo snr." <mr_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bt1cb3$1raq0$1...@ID-141600.news.uni-berlin.de...
> This of course sets up a great tv-special profiling Akebono's attempts to
> recover from this humiliation. He gets back into serious training -
> including shedding at least 30-40 kgs - and all the time the camera will
cut
> away to showed pained expressions on his wife's face etc.
It was probably good for both their careers. Now Sapp gets a new image as a
real fighter instead of just a yajuu, and he'll probably get a few more big
purses. Meanwhile, everybody will want to see Akebono at least one more
time, to see if he actually learns how to throw a punch. So a few more oku
lined up for both, not to mention the commercial deals etc.
In fact, the results were so perfect that -- dare I say it -- I even
suspected a bit of the "Y" word. D'ya think? Nah, of course not. Not on
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Eric Takabayashi
> "mr.sumo snr." <mr_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bt1cb3$1raq0$1...@ID-141600.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > This of course sets up a great tv-special profiling Akebono's attempts to
> > recover from this humiliation. He gets back into serious training -
> > including shedding at least 30-40 kgs - and all the time the camera will
> cut
> > away to showed pained expressions on his wife's face etc.
>
> It was probably good for both their careers. Now Sapp gets a new image as a
> real fighter instead of just a yajuu, and he'll probably get a few more big
> purses. Meanwhile, everybody will want to see Akebono at least one more
> time, to see if he actually learns how to throw a punch.
The man must care more about finances than his health:
K-1 Akebono vs. Tyson at MSG
Posted by fightworld
K-1 told the Japanese press that they will utilize their working contract with
Mike Tyson inside the United States.
An insane rumor of Mike Tyson fighting at MSG against his "largest" opponent
yet is now.
It's not Sapp, it's Akebono (regardless of his 12/31/03 outcome with Sapp).
Madison Square Garden is the proposed site for a summer 2004 show in which
Tyson would make his K-1 entrance against the Sumo legend.
> So a few more oku lined up for both, not to mention the commercial deals
> etc.
Akebono still needs to develop more of a TV personality if he wants to be like
Sapp, Konishiki or Mainoumi.
> In fact, the results were so perfect
Did you think it was that good? They could have been standing at arm's length
trading fast punches at each other's heads like Don Frye.
> that -- dare I say it -- I even suspected a bit of the "Y" word. D'ya think?
> Nah, of course not. Not on Japanese tv.
--
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> And I'm NOT talking about Christmas specials - but what movies can one
> always expect to see on terrestrial television at this time of the year in
> Sepponia, Canadia, and Austria?
Movies? No such animal. For mine, Boxing Day in Austria = the Boxing Day
test match. I don't think anything else have every been seen on the TV
set at my olds anytime between the 26th and 30th (with the possible
exception of the past few years where the game has barely lasted into
the 4th day). I have no recollection of whatever it was we may have
watched after stumps and the news etc though - probably just went
outside, watched the stars, drank a brew or three etc.
Jason Cormier
"mr.sumo snr." <mr_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> And I'm NOT talking about Christmas specials - but what movies can one
> always expect to see on terrestrial television at this time of the year in
> Sepponia, Canadia, and Austria?
Movies? What are movies? Come Boxing Day, it's all about the World Junior
Hockey Championships (AKA World Under-20 championships) until January 5th.
Brett Robson
I don't understand why Canadians play Hockey during winter, all the ice and snow
would really slow the ball down. Or do you play it indoors?
Jason Cormier
<jet...@deja.com> wrote:
>>> And I'm NOT talking about Christmas specials - but what movies can one
>>> always expect to see on terrestrial television at this time of the year in
>>> Sepponia, Canadia, and Austria?
>>
>> Movies? What are movies? Come Boxing Day, it's all about the World Junior
>> Hockey Championships (AKA World Under-20 championships) until January 5th.
>>
>
> I don't understand why Canadians play Hockey during winter, all the ice and
> snow
> would really slow the ball down. Or do you play it indoors?
Pretty sure the tournament isn't played by a bunch of skirt-wearing private
school girls so there's no need to use a ball.
Brett Robson
so why do you watch it/
Michael Cash
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Then what the hell is the point of watching it?
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Michael Cash
down from the Mount tablets inscribed:
>On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 18:08:31 GMT, Jason Cormier ...
Great minds think alike.
This reminds me of a comment I heard a Sepponian DJ make regarding
watching figure skating during the Olympics. At first he didn't like
it, but upon reflection decided any sport where the girls wear those
little-bitty skirts and come flying toward you at 60mph *butt first*
can't be all bad.
Jason Cormier
"Michael Cash" <bugg...@fake.com> wrote:
> On 2 Jan 2004 19:25:06 -0800, Brett Robson <jet...@deja.com> brought
> down from the Mount tablets inscribed:
>
>> On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 18:08:31 GMT, Jason Cormier ...
>>>
>>> On 1/2/04 12:33, in article bt4a0...@drn.newsguy.com, "Brett Robson"
>>> <jet...@deja.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> And I'm NOT talking about Christmas specials - but what movies can one
>>>>>> always expect to see on terrestrial television at this time of the year
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> Sepponia, Canadia, and Austria?
>>>>>
>>>>> Movies? What are movies? Come Boxing Day, it's all about the World Junior
>>>>> Hockey Championships (AKA World Under-20 championships) until January 5th.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't understand why Canadians play Hockey during winter, all the ice and
>>>> snow
>>>> would really slow the ball down. Or do you play it indoors?
>>>
>>> Pretty sure the tournament isn't played by a bunch of skirt-wearing private
>>> school girls so there's no need to use a ball.
>>>
>>
>> so why do you watch it/
>
> Great minds think alike.
...or are so hard up for some action that girls playing sports is the only
thing they get that resembles some action. I love having a wife who is
diligent in her attempts to have a child.
Declan Murphy
> ...or are so hard up for some action that girls playing sports is the only
> thing they get that resembles some action. I love having a wife who is
> diligent in her attempts to have a child.
So you are still shooting blanks?
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I am not who you think I am
I am who I think you think I am
...or some such shite.
Jason Cormier
<declan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Jason Cormier wrote:
>
>> ...or are so hard up for some action that girls playing sports is the only
>> thing they get that resembles some action. I love having a wife who is
>> diligent in her attempts to have a child.
>
> So you are still shooting blanks?
Tight briefs and icepacks ensure that the joy ride continues for a while
longer. Still looking for sex in the classrooms above?
Michael Cash
brought down from the Mount tablets inscribed:
>On 1/3/04 1:08, in article jvmcvvk6ue6gni29u...@4ax.com,
>"Michael Cash" <bugg...@fake.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2 Jan 2004 19:25:06 -0800, Brett Robson <jet...@deja.com> brought
>> down from the Mount tablets inscribed:
>>
>>> On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 18:08:31 GMT, Jason Cormier ...
>>>>
>>>> On 1/2/04 12:33, in article bt4a0...@drn.newsguy.com, "Brett Robson"
>>>> <jet...@deja.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> And I'm NOT talking about Christmas specials - but what movies can one
>>>>>>> always expect to see on terrestrial television at this time of the year
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> Sepponia, Canadia, and Austria?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Movies? What are movies? Come Boxing Day, it's all about the World Junior
>>>>>> Hockey Championships (AKA World Under-20 championships) until January 5th.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't understand why Canadians play Hockey during winter, all the ice and
>>>>> snow
>>>>> would really slow the ball down. Or do you play it indoors?
>>>>
>>>> Pretty sure the tournament isn't played by a bunch of skirt-wearing private
>>>> school girls so there's no need to use a ball.
>>>>
>>>
>>> so why do you watch it/
>>
>> Great minds think alike.
>
>...or are so hard up for some action that girls playing sports is the only
>thing they get that resembles some action. I love having a wife who is
>diligent in her attempts to have a child.
Make hay while the sun shines, brother. When she has sprogged to her
heart's content she'll change the locks.
Declan Murphy
No. I've a couch in the office.
Jason Cormier
"Michael Cash" <bugg...@fake.com> wrote:
>>> Great minds think alike.
>>
>> ...or are so hard up for some action that girls playing sports is the only
>> thing they get that resembles some action. I love having a wife who is
>> diligent in her attempts to have a child.
>
> Make hay while the sun shines, brother. When she has sprogged to her
> heart's content she'll change the locks.
Guess you missed my reply to Declan.