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Louise Bremner

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Aug 21, 2003, 8:53:36 PM8/21/03
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When a laptop running Windows 98 freezes, what's the magic key
combination to get the blasted thing running again?

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Louise Bremner (log at gol dot com)
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Ryan Ginstrom

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Aug 21, 2003, 9:04:15 PM8/21/03
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" Louise Bremner" <dame_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> When a laptop running Windows 98 freezes, what's the magic key
> combination to get the blasted thing running again?

The power button?

I guess before that, you might try CTL + ALT + DEL though.

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Regards,
Ryan Ginstrom

Dave Fossett

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Aug 21, 2003, 8:51:49 PM8/21/03
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Louise Bremner wrote:

> When a laptop running Windows 98 freezes, what's the magic key
> combination to get the blasted thing running again?

You are obviously not a regular Windows user... ;-)

Ctrl + Alt + Del usually solves everything.

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Dave Fossett
Saitama, Japan

John W.

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Aug 21, 2003, 9:10:02 PM8/21/03
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Louise Bremner wrote:
> When a laptop running Windows 98 freezes, what's the magic key
> combination to get the blasted thing running again?
>
CTRL+ALT+DELETE tends to do the trick. If that doesn't work, unplug it
and pull out the battery.

John W.

Ed

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Aug 21, 2003, 8:58:51 PM8/21/03
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"John W." <worth...@yahoo.komm> wrote in message
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The three fingered salute brings up a box containing all the programs that
are running. Terminate the one that is no longer responding and it's usually
okay. If that doesn't work and you get the blue screen of death, then you
might as well turn it off and do something productive like scrubbing toilets
or cleaning your daughter's room.

Louise Bremner

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Aug 21, 2003, 10:13:50 PM8/21/03
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Dave Fossett <re...@via.newsgroup> wrote:

> > When a laptop running Windows 98 freezes, what's the magic key
> > combination to get the blasted thing running again?
>
> You are obviously not a regular Windows user... ;-)

Well spotted. It seemed like such a good idea to buy something that
could mimic the clients' setup as far as possible, since we have so much
trouble reading each other's floppies....


>
> Ctrl + Alt + Del usually solves everything.

Nope. I thought I had remembered that one correctly (although I was
wondering whether the BS key is involved too), but it didn't work then
and doesn't work now.

Louise Bremner

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Aug 21, 2003, 10:13:51 PM8/21/03
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Ryan Ginstrom <gins...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > When a laptop running Windows 98 freezes, what's the magic key
> > combination to get the blasted thing running again?
>
> The power button?
>
> I guess before that, you might try CTL + ALT + DEL though.

Nope and nope.... But thanks for confirming it's not me that has the
problem here.

Louise Bremner

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Aug 21, 2003, 10:13:52 PM8/21/03
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John W. <worth...@yahoo.komm> wrote:

<ulp> Maybe I'll wait until the in-house Doze user gets home for that
one.

Louise Bremner

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Aug 21, 2003, 10:22:29 PM8/21/03
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Ed <gwb...@whitehouse.gov> wrote:

> > CTRL+ALT+DELETE tends to do the trick. If that doesn't work, unplug it
> > and pull out the battery.
>
> The three fingered salute brings up a box containing all the programs that
> are running. Terminate the one that is no longer responding and it's usually
> okay.

Ah.... maybe that's the problem--I hadn't even got as far as launching a
program (unless the Finder-analog counts as a program?). I'd waited the
standard eternity until the box started up, inserted the flash card,
then clicked on *mai compyuuta* and waited the second eternity until it
opened. But only the window frame appeared--no contents and the mouse
cursor was back at the menu bar, frozen.

> If that doesn't work and you get the blue screen of death, then you might

> as well turn it off and do something productive like scrubbing toilets...

did that last month.

> ...or cleaning your daughter's room.

If I had a daughter, she'd better clean her own room.

Brett Robson

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Aug 21, 2003, 10:12:57 PM8/21/03
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:53:36 +0900, dame_...@yahoo.com ( ...

>
>When a laptop running Windows 98 freezes, what's the magic key
>combination to get the blasted thing running again?
>


Gowan is having problems with his "chat machine" so he emailed me his answer
which I paraphrase.

He made a disparging remark about Win 98 and people that use it, but otherwise
was unable to come up with a solution.

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mr.sumo snr.

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Aug 21, 2003, 10:39:36 PM8/21/03
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" Louise Bremner" <dame_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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CTRL + ALT + DEL doesn't always work - especially when we're talking about a
freeze that involves the keyboard as well. No need to pull out the mains
and unplug the battery. Just push and hold the 'power on' button - hold it
for at least 5 seconds. The machine will switch off. This also works for
desktops BTW. It is a course of last resort though, since you'll obviously
lose anything that you were working on - in Windows 98 that is...

--
jonathan
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"Never give a gun to ducks"


Ed

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Aug 21, 2003, 9:36:42 PM8/21/03
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" Louise Bremner" <dame_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Dave Fossett <re...@via.newsgroup> wrote:
>
> > > When a laptop running Windows 98 freezes, what's the magic key
> > > combination to get the blasted thing running again?
> >
> > You are obviously not a regular Windows user... ;-)
>
> Well spotted. It seemed like such a good idea to buy something that
> could mimic the clients' setup as far as possible, since we have so much
> trouble reading each other's floppies....
> >
> > Ctrl + Alt + Del usually solves everything.
>
> Nope. I thought I had remembered that one correctly (although I was
> wondering whether the BS key is involved too), but it didn't work then
> and doesn't work now.

Welcome to the wonderful world of Microsoft!!!


Louise Bremner

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Aug 22, 2003, 12:07:04 AM8/22/03
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mr.sumo snr. <mr_...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > When a laptop running Windows 98 freezes, what's the magic key
> > combination to get the blasted thing running again?
>

> CTRL + ALT + DEL doesn't always work - especially when we're talking about a
> freeze that involves the keyboard as well. No need to pull out the mains
> and unplug the battery. Just push and hold the 'power on' button - hold it
> for at least 5 seconds.

Aha! That did it. Hmmmm.... That's the last resort for this eMac too,
but I had to be reminded about that one too, recently. Thanks!

> The machine will switch off.

...and back on again, with a snitty error message. No problem aside from
having to wait that eternity again for it to finish starting up, so I
can select Start to turn it off properly.

> This also works for
> desktops BTW. It is a course of last resort though, since you'll obviously
> lose anything that you were working on - in Windows 98 that is...

Yeah, well, I hadn't even got to the stage where I could have done
anything I would have lost....

Louise Bremner

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Aug 22, 2003, 12:07:05 AM8/22/03
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Brett Robson <jet...@deja.com> wrote:

> >When a laptop running Windows 98 freezes, what's the magic key
> >combination to get the blasted thing running again?
> >
>
>
> Gowan is having problems with his "chat machine" so he emailed me his
> answer which I paraphrase.
>
> He made a disparging remark about Win 98 and people that use it, but
> otherwise was unable to come up with a solution.

I am just so overawed that the mighty Gowan even exercised one little
brain cell on this problem. How can I survive the honour?

Kevin Wayne Williams

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Aug 22, 2003, 1:05:05 AM8/22/03
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Louise Bremner wrote:

> mr.sumo snr. <mr_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>When a laptop running Windows 98 freezes, what's the magic key
>>>combination to get the blasted thing running again?
>>
>>CTRL + ALT + DEL doesn't always work - especially when we're talking about a
>>freeze that involves the keyboard as well. No need to pull out the mains
>>and unplug the battery. Just push and hold the 'power on' button - hold it
>>for at least 5 seconds.
>
>
> Aha! That did it. Hmmmm.... That's the last resort for this eMac too,
> but I had to be reminded about that one too, recently. Thanks!

Just wanted to chime in to point out that the other posters weren't
wrong. Sometimes, holding the power button for five seconds doesn't
work, either. Then, you do have to physically remove the battery (if
present) and unplug it from the wall.

KWW

Louise Bremner

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Aug 22, 2003, 2:22:55 AM8/22/03
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Or throw the whole thing out the window....

mtfe...@netscape.net

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Aug 22, 2003, 9:36:34 AM8/22/03
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Louise Bremner <dame_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> > Aha! That did it. Hmmmm.... That's the last resort for this eMac too,
>> > but I had to be reminded about that one too, recently. Thanks!
>>
>> Just wanted to chime in to point out that the other posters weren't
>> wrong. Sometimes, holding the power button for five seconds doesn't
>> work, either. Then, you do have to physically remove the battery (if
>> present) and unplug it from the wall.

> Or throw the whole thing out the window....

Well, duh! Why do you think they CALL it "Windows"?

Mike

Michael Cash

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Aug 22, 2003, 9:48:26 AM8/22/03
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 15:22:55 +0900, dame_...@yahoo.com ( Louise
Bremner) belched the alphabet and kept on going with:

>Kevin Wayne Williams <nih...@paxonet.kom> wrote:
>
>> >>>When a laptop running Windows 98 freezes, what's the magic key
>> >>>combination to get the blasted thing running again?
>> >>
>> >>CTRL + ALT + DEL doesn't always work - especially when we're talking about a
>> >>freeze that involves the keyboard as well. No need to pull out the mains
>> >>and unplug the battery. Just push and hold the 'power on' button - hold it
>> >>for at least 5 seconds.
>> >
>> >
>> > Aha! That did it. Hmmmm.... That's the last resort for this eMac too,
>> > but I had to be reminded about that one too, recently. Thanks!
>>
>> Just wanted to chime in to point out that the other posters weren't
>> wrong. Sometimes, holding the power button for five seconds doesn't
>> work, either. Then, you do have to physically remove the battery (if
>> present) and unplug it from the wall.
>
>Or throw the whole thing out the window....

The reset button (if it has one) and a pointy object with which to
operate it are your best friends when you have Windows 98.


--

Michael Cash

"There was a time, Mr. Cash, when I believed you must be the most useless
thing in the world. But that was before I read a Microsoft help file."

Prof. Ernest T. Bass
Mount Pilot College


http://www.sunfield.ne.jp/~mike/

John W.

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Aug 22, 2003, 10:55:59 AM8/22/03
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Doesn't always work. That's why I learned to unplug the power cord and
disengage the battery.

John W.

John W.

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Aug 22, 2003, 10:54:50 AM8/22/03
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Ed wrote:

>
>
> Welcome to the wonderful world of Microsoft!!!
>

I have to say that I haven't had a real problem with either Win ME or
XP; the only crashes I've had were because I was goofing around.
Basically they're pretty stable for me.

John W.

Michael Cash

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Aug 22, 2003, 11:17:44 AM8/22/03
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:55:59 -0500, "John W." <worth...@yahoo.komm>

belched the alphabet and kept on going with:

>mr.sumo snr. wrote:

I once bought a laptop (in Sepponia) with 98 installed. Took it home,
discovered it didn't have a reset switch, boxed it up and took it back
to the store.

Michael Cash

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Aug 22, 2003, 11:22:33 AM8/22/03
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:53:47 -0700, Mogura <cjxa...@dea.spamcon.org>

belched the alphabet and kept on going with:

>On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:53:36 +0900, dame_...@yahoo.com ( Louise
>Bremner) wrote:
>
>>When a laptop running Windows 98 freezes, what's the magic key
>>combination to get the blasted thing running again?
>

>I hate to say this, but an upgrade is in order...Win98 will soon not
>be supported my Micro$oft,

Last June is soon, yes.

> and the security features, 16bit code and
>other legacy applications make the platform inherently unstable.
>
>If you upgraded to Win2K or XP, u would find your applications and
>life running much smoother.

Sometimes, just to get an idea how long my machine (updated to XP from
98SE) has been running, I will click on the internet connection icon
thingy to discover how long I have been connected to the internet
without being dropped. I know, of course, that the computer has been
running longer than that. Right now, for example, it is 4 days, 4
hours and 37 minutes. Not that I had a problem 4 days ago. I didn't. I
just turned the thing off. Sometimes I check and it has been purring
along for almost two solid weeks.

>Also, drinking a few bottles of cough
>syrup whilst running everything seems to make everything better, IMHO.

'Zat you, Osgo?

Louise Bremner

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Aug 22, 2003, 7:17:53 PM8/22/03
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Mogura <cjxa...@dea.spamcon.org> wrote:

> >When a laptop running Windows 98 freezes, what's the magic key
> >combination to get the blasted thing running again?
>

> I hate to say this, but an upgrade is in order...Win98 will soon not

> be supported my Micro$oft, and the security features, 16bit code and


> other legacy applications make the platform inherently unstable.

I'm trying to keep down to my clients, because there often I can't read
the floppies they give me and I can't work out why they sometimes can't
read the files I send them...

I dread to think what will happen when they decide to change their setup
again (they've only recently switched from WordPerfect to Whirred).

> If you upgraded to Win2K or XP, u would find your applications and
> life running much smoother.

I do not intend to do much, if any, work on a Doze machine. I just need
to get this overweight floppy converter to run.

Louise Bremner

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Aug 22, 2003, 7:17:54 PM8/22/03
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<mtfe...@netscape.net> wrote:

> > Or throw the whole thing out the window....
>
> Well, duh! Why do you think they CALL it "Windows"?

Prezactly!

Brett Robson

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Aug 24, 2003, 10:34:53 PM8/24/03
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:53:47 -0700, Mogura ...

>
>On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:53:36 +0900, dame_...@yahoo.com ( Louise
>Bremner) wrote:
>
>>When a laptop running Windows 98 freezes, what's the magic key
>>combination to get the blasted thing running again?
>
>I hate to say this, but an upgrade is in order...Win98 will soon not
>be supported my Micro$oft, and the security features, 16bit code and
>other legacy applications make the platform inherently unstable.
>

a cynic would probably say the Microsoft haven't ever supported it at all, but
there aren't any cynics around here.

.

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