revisiting the karen read cellphone tracking discussion

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Peteri Szerlagi

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Mar 16, 2024, 5:09:27 PM3/16/24
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https://web.archive.org/web/20240111053235/https://twitter.com/OliviaLambo_/status/1745255334715785636

olivia lambo says that the detectives just used 6 data points from
john okeefes cellphone - with accuracys from 30 meters to 60 meters -
to state that okeefe did not enter the home at 34 fairview rd

its only about 30 feet from the street to the front door of the home -
and 30 meters is equivalent to 120 geet - so it seems to me that the
cellphone data might be very misleading

one would expect that the lats/longs from the cellphone in the car
would be less reliable by a longshot than the cellphone long lats when
being carried between the car and the home - access to towers and
satellites should be much easier in the open than when within a motor
vehicle - one would think

anyone have better info on this?

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Peteri Szerlagi

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Mar 19, 2024, 8:10:33 AM3/19/24
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didnt I post a followup on this? maybe not

1. the accuracy of john okeefes phone seemed to be mostly 10 feet
while enroute to 34 fairview - unknown what the exact lats longs were
- data was appended maybe - we did not see that data

2. john okeefe phone apparently was sending location data once every second

3. john okeefe phone lost accuracy for approx 6 pings and then stopped moving

we were thinking that maybe john okeefe threw his phone at karen read
suv - hit the taillight and broke the taillight- and then the phone
bounced onto the lawn - john okeefe then went inside 34 fairview and
was beaten to death - or maybe someone met john okeefe at the door of
34 fairview - took his phone from him - and threw it onto the lawn

here is my explanation of "accuracy" - definitions - infrastructure =
celltowers and satellites and computers and internet that links it all
together - apparently the cell towers send out a signal every second
to a cellphone - the cellphone plots its location via gps and sends
that location to the cell tower - the cellphone might also plot its
location by comparing the signal from multi cell towers - when the
celltower receives the return reply from the cellphone with the lats
and longs - the infrastructure can calculate the difference between
where the phone says it is based on gps or tower - and where the
infrastructure detects it to be (based on multi delays to receive the
signal on multi cell towers) - yes its complicated

let me try to find that report by ?gauarino? again

keep in mind - the cellphone has a much 'harder' time seeing the
celltowers and gps satellites when inside a car - or in a house - or
when under heavy tres - or in a snowstorm - etc - the signals mostly
travel in straight lines - and the signals are weakened / attenuated
by heavy objects and metal objects

you can search the internet for the terms - land mobile radio and emf
and radio wave propagation

this is all based on some document that we were viewing - unknown how
reliable the info is - apparently the data was from a msp detective -
maybe guarino

Peteri Szerlagi

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Mar 19, 2024, 8:13:05 AM3/19/24
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you can also look up info about 'triangulation' and the 'osborne range
finder' (which the forest fire tower guys use to figure out where
forest fires are at)

Peteri Szerlagi

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Mar 19, 2024, 10:18:16 AM3/19/24
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here is the report that mentions 10 foot accuracy of john okeefes
cellphone and 1 second pings -
https://twitter.com/OliviaLambo_/status/1745255334715785636/photo/1

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