what extension for Firebug do I need to prohibit gets from sites like s0.2mdn.net?

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mykstor

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Oct 15, 2011, 5:58:34 PM10/15/11
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Can I program Firebug to filter out performing gets on sites that
place tiny iframes or images for the purpose of gathering info?
I see there's an add-on called Fire-eyes. Is this what I need? I'm on
an iMac running Firefox 7.0.1.

Thanks for anyone's help!

Sebo

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Oct 17, 2011, 5:26:45 AM10/17/11
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For the purpose of hiding adverts etc. I'd better suggest you use Adblock Plus instead.
Firebug is a web developer tool. So if you really want to have this feature in Firebug, you should explain why this would be an advantage for web developers.

Sebastian

mykstor

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Oct 19, 2011, 5:58:17 PM10/19/11
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Where do you come off with such an arrogant statement, "Firebug is a
web developer tool." as if it were the Word of God. You think you
"OWN" Firebug and what it's for? You fool.
Firebug is invaluable for EVERYONE who wants to know more about what
Firefox is doing and how to modify what it does as well as build
gadgets.
I do use it for development. In this case I want to develop a way not
to "hide" adverts, Sebastian.
I want to prevent third parties from butting in while my browser is
downloading a page and gathering info when I don't choose to have my
browser perform a get from snoop sites such as the likes of these:

http://pixel.fetchback.com/
http://ads.adbrite.com/
http://ad.yieldmanager.com/
http://view.atdmt.com/
http://s0.2mdn.net/
http://click.adknowledge.com/
http://pix04.revsci.net/

the list goes on and on and on...

If you're not concerned about people's privacy at all, then you're
likely a perpetrator.

On Oct 17, 2:26 am, Sebo <sebastianzart...@gmx.de> wrote:
> For the purpose of hiding adverts etc. I'd better suggest you use Adblock
> Plus <https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/> instead.

Sebo

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Oct 20, 2011, 2:18:40 AM10/20/11
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On Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:58:17 PM UTC+2, mykstor wrote:
Where do you come off with such an arrogant statement, "Firebug is a
web developer tool." as if it were the Word of God. You think you
"OWN" Firebug and what it's for? You fool.
Well, maybe I should have expressed myself a bit different. We develop Firebug in the first place for web developers. Of course people can use it for other purposes, too.
Just for clarification: I am working on Firebug voluntarily and without any payment in my spare time. And I am doing that, because I want to help people and make their lives a bit easier. And Firebug is free to everyone.

The reason why I asked you to explain, why Firebug could need a feature like this, is to avoid implementing things, that another one already does much better, and things, that are not fitting to the main purpose of Firebug. And if you could give a good reason, then I would be the last one to say no.
In this case I believe, that Adblock Plus already covers exactly what you need.
 
Firebug is invaluable for EVERYONE who wants to know more about what
Firefox is doing and how to modify what it does as well as build
gadgets.
I do use it for development. In this case I want to develop a way not
to "hide" adverts, Sebastian.
If you mean to set filters in a tool for preventing ads and other third party stuff being loaded, then this is not developing.
 
I want to prevent third parties from butting in while my browser is
downloading a page and gathering info when I don't choose to have my
browser perform a get from snoop sites such as the likes of these:

http://pixel.fetchback.com/
http://ads.adbrite.com/
http://ad.yieldmanager.com/
http://view.atdmt.com/
http://s0.2mdn.net/
http://click.adknowledge.com/
http://pix04.revsci.net/

the list goes on and on and on...
Ok, I made another mistake. Adblock Plus is preventing requests to such pages. Simple example to show that:
  1. Open Firebug on GMX having Adblock Plus disabled for that site
  2. Enable and switch to the Net panel
  3. Reload the page using Ctrl+F5
    ⇒ You will see something about 139 requests listed
  4. Now enable Adblock Plus for that site
  5. Reload the page again using Ctrl+F5
Now you will just see about 87 requests for that site

So Adblock Plus really prevents "
third parties from butting in" as you describe it. And all I did to find that out was to use Firebug.
And if you're still not completely happy with that, please note, that you can adjust the filters of Adblock Plus.
 
If you're not concerned about people's privacy at all, then you're likely a perpetrator.
 Believe me, I am not and blinking ads and sniffing third party websites annoy me as much as you.
And before you're starting to claim, that I am making that much advertisement for Adblock Plus, I tell you, that I am simply a satisfied user of it. Not more.

So I would really appreciate, if you stopped insulting me.

Sebastian

Pedro Simonetti Garcia

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Oct 20, 2011, 9:47:23 AM10/20/11
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2011/10/19 mykstor <myk...@gmail.com>

Where do you come off with such an arrogant statement, "Firebug is a
web developer tool."

Have you ever heard: "the beauty is in the eye of the beholder"?

There's no arrogance at all in that phrase. It is simply a statement of a fact. That's what Firebug is in the first place, like it or not.

Some people use Firebug to cheat on online games. That doesn't make Firebug a tool for cheaters.

 
as if it were the Word of God. You think you
"OWN" Firebug and what it's for? You fool.

I could simply assume you are a troll, but unlike you I would not judge someone I don't know just because I don't agree with what he's saying.


If you're not concerned about people's privacy at all, then you're
likely a perpetrator.

Really? You came to the wrong place, asking wrong questions, in a wrong way, and just because you didn't like the answer now you consider the one who is trying to help you an enemy? You cannot say we're not concerned about privacy, that's totally nonsense. Privacy on the internet is a tough subject, and a very relevant one, but it has NOTHING TO DO with a web development tool. Period.

If you're not concerned about respecting us, then you deserve no more attention than you already got:
http://getfirebug.com/wiki/index.php/Rules_for_the_issue_tracker#Be_polite

peace,

Pedro Simonetti.

 

On Oct 17, 2:26 am, Sebo <sebastianzart...@gmx.de> wrote:
> For the purpose of hiding adverts etc. I'd better suggest you use Adblock
> Plus <https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/> instead.
> Firebug is a web developer tool. So if you really want to have this feature
> in Firebug, you should explain why this would be an advantage for web
> developers.
>
> Sebastian

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Sebo

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Oct 20, 2011, 3:19:32 PM10/20/11
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Thanks Pedro,

sometimes I think I'm too friendly to the people. It's pretty annoying being insulted when trying to help others. Fortunately there are more people valuing what we're doing than people that don't.

mykstor, if you have constructive input for us, please let us know. We appreciate suggestions. If you don't have, then stop insulting your fellow men.

Sebastian

Pedro Simonetti Garcia

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Oct 20, 2011, 3:38:53 PM10/20/11
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You're welcome Sebastian,

Everybody involved with Firebug knows the great effort you're doing to improve Firebug, not only with code, but with tasks that most of the time don't appeal contributors like organizing our issue tracker, improving our wiki.

If you never saw a talk called "How Open Source Projects Survive Poisonous People" by the developers of Subversion, I suggest doing so. It is a very refreshing and funny talk which has several valuable information on how to deal with people who just want to harm us:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F-3E8pyjFo

Keep up with the amazing work!

Pedro Simonetti.


2011/10/20 Sebo <sebastia...@gmx.de>


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Sebo

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Oct 20, 2011, 7:28:14 PM10/20/11
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You're welcome Sebastian,

Everybody involved with Firebug knows the great effort you're doing to improve Firebug, not only with code, but with tasks that most of the time don't appeal contributors like organizing our issue tracker, improving our wiki.
Thanks a lot, Pedro! I really appreciate, that you mention that. I just think, that not only the code is important, but other parts are belonging to the project, too. And of course these parts also need someone, that takes care of them. The problem is just, that there are that many areas to maintain like the code, the test cases, the wiki, the website, the issue tracker, the discussion group, email discussions, IRC etc., that I'd currently like to split myself to be able to handle all of them. But of course that's not possible, so I can always just keep track of a small part of them. And that's also the reason why I am currently poking that much and mentioning that often, that we need to find some more people contributing to Firebug. So my goal is, that in the end everyone can concentrate more on certain parts of the project. Of course it's harder to find people, that e. g. just keep the issue tracker clean or enhance documentation, but currently we're also not asking for them. So maybe we could find someone willing to do such things by creating some kind of "job offer" page.
 
If you never saw a talk called "How Open Source Projects Survive Poisonous People" by the developers of Subversion, I suggest doing so. It is a very refreshing and funny talk which has several valuable information on how to deal with people who just want to harm us:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F-3E8pyjFo
Thank you very much for this funny, but instructive video! I'll keep that in mind for the next time some poisonous person comes up. Besides that it also gave me some ideas about other project and community related things.
 
Keep up with the amazing work!
I'll do my best. :-)

Sebastian
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