Don't like the new integration

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jonathan maderer

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Jan 30, 2017, 3:34:25 AM1/30/17
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Well thanks generally for firebug i was always fine with it.. but with the latest release the appereance changed to a firefox integration. I really don't like the general look and feel and hardly believe it is a step backward. Can you please make it possible to change it to the default firebug layout? This might be some kind of "Never touch a running system". First time that i was really unhappy with firebug.

Sebastian Zartner

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Jan 30, 2017, 6:20:19 AM1/30/17
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As the Firebug homepage states, Firebug development and maintainance is discontinued. You were obviously automatically switched to the Firefox DevTools (using a Firebug theme). There is more info about this at https://hacks.mozilla.org/2016/12/firebug-lives-on-in-firefox-devtools/. There's also a migration guide for Firebug users to make the transition a bit easier.
If you don't like the look and feel, I suggest you have a look at bug 991806 (listing all gaps between Firebug and the DevTools) and bug 1263889 (listing Firebug theme improvements). And if you miss anything that is not mentioned there yet, file a new bug and mark it as blocker of 991806 or 1263889.

See also my related answers on Stack Overflow:
http://stackoverflow.com/a/41890636/432681
http://stackoverflow.com/a/41930082/432681
http://stackoverflow.com/a/40910225/432681

Sebastian

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Jan 31, 2017, 3:06:46 AM1/31/17
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I agree the new integration is complete shit and all the amazing things firebug was, it 100% isn't.

Goodbye firebug and probably firefox as well. It was the main reason for using that browser. Now I may as well go to chromium.

Thanks for the years of amazing work on firebug. I'm sad to see if drift off into the ongoing piece of shit that Mozilla is continuing to make Firefox.

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Sushant Sharma

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Jan 31, 2017, 3:06:46 AM1/31/17
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I also didn't like the new update, it's like I lost the control over firebug, many features missing, older one was absolutely fine.

Arun Kumar

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Jan 31, 2017, 3:06:52 AM1/31/17
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Is there any way to revert back to old firebug without reinstalling firefox to old version? I simply dont like how firefox's developer tools works and its lot buggy. That's the main reason I was using firebug.

Sebastian Zartner

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Jan 31, 2017, 3:32:52 AM1/31/17
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On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 9:06:52 AM UTC+1, Arun Kumar wrote:
Is there any way to revert back to old firebug without reinstalling firefox to old version? I simply dont like how firefox's developer tools works and its lot buggy. That's the main reason I was using firebug.


On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 9:06:46 AM UTC+1, Sushant Sharma wrote:
I also didn't like the new update, it's like I lost the control over firebug, many features missing, older one was absolutely fine.

Like I wrote earlier, the "new update" is not Firebug. What you are seeing are the Firefox DevTools with a Firebug theme. See the related Mozilla blog post for more info.
I know that the DevTools still have many UI glitches, which make Firebug's UI superior. Though those issues will be fixed with the time (hopefully sooner than later). And that's why I'm pushing on getting the gaps fixed and created the migration guide in the meantime.

Sebastian

Francesco Smelzo

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Feb 3, 2017, 6:34:22 AM2/3/17
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Completely agree with other users. I've to install an older version of FF to continue use of FB but is a temporary solution. Probably I also switch to Chrome also for debug. 
FB was only reason to use FF for me.


On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 9:34:25 AM UTC+1, jonathan maderer wrote:

Stellar Technology

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Feb 7, 2017, 3:56:40 AM2/7/17
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My week has been infinitely worse since this auto-update. Attempting the Stackoverflow suggestion to get it back for now. Is this something that could be re-written if it had crowd funding? I'll chip in $100, Firebug is basically the only reason I still use Firefox as it's significantly better than Chrome's Dev Tools for my development process.

Sebastian Zartner

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Feb 7, 2017, 3:11:13 PM2/7/17
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The team behind Firebug has split up and with e10s implemented and WebExtensions enforcement on the horizon, Firebug basically would need to be recreated from scratch (if it's even possible to create it as WebExtension). So, I think the $100 are better invested in pushing the Firefox DevTools. While their UI is not as good as Firebug's and still has several flaws, they are not as bad as you think. Just read the migration guide and give them a try.
But maybe there's someone out there that wants to take the challenge of reviving the project and would initiate a crowd funding campain to get the resources. It's open source, after all.

Sebastian

Carlos López

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Feb 8, 2017, 7:29:37 AM2/8/17
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Damn it! sighs... sorry had to let it out...

First the command prompt was perfectly fine to have it on the right and to be able to type a script in it and run to test it, instead of having a one liner input that basically forces you to hit shift if you want a new line... screw that.

The look and feel is horrible, ok maybe not so much, but I can't stand it and neither the 10px size font for all text in it.

For the time being I will downgrade to a firefox version that I can continue using firebug as it was...

For future implementations, ask the whole community of users about feedback on mockups or design concepts first.

Sebastian Zartner

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Feb 8, 2017, 2:08:13 PM2/8/17
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On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 1:29:37 PM UTC+1, Carlos López wrote:
First the command prompt was perfectly fine to have it on the right and to be able to type a script in it and run to test it, instead of having a one liner input that basically forces you to hit shift if you want a new line... screw that.

Several people were already complaining about the missing command editor. As I mentioned in an answer to a question on Stack Overflow, there's a tool called Scratchpad, which offers a multi-line command line, but has some UI glitches. A multi-line command line like in Firebug is therefore requested in bug 1133849.
 
The look and feel is horrible, ok maybe not so much, but I can't stand it

If you have concrete suggestions to improve the UI, please file bugs against the DevTools. And if they are a regression to Firebug's UI, please mark them as blockers of bug 991806.
 
and neither the 10px size font for all text in it.

You can increase the text size by pressing Ctrl++ while the tools are focused (and decrease it via Ctrl+- and reset it via Ctrl+0).

For the time being I will downgrade to a firefox version that I can continue using firebug as it was...

As mentioned on Stack Overflow, this should only be a temporary solution.

For future implementations, ask the whole community of users about feedback on mockups or design concepts first.

Because Firebug is discontinued, there won't be any future implementations of Firebug anymore. And the Firefox DevTools are mostly maintained by another team. So, you need to contact them about feedback and mockups.

Sebastian

Avenger

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Feb 18, 2017, 6:53:09 AM2/18/17
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Well, you are right...

The new FireFox developer tools are a real pain in the ass, compared to good old FireBug. :(

So I will switch to Chrome for developmet.

Whose developer tools are 95%+ like good old FireBug.

Plus some goodies.

Erik Krause

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Feb 18, 2017, 3:18:13 PM2/18/17
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Am 18.02.2017 um 12:53 schrieb Avenger:
> The new FireFox developer tools are a real pain in the ass, compared to
> good old FireBug. :(

Did you read the migration guide:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Migrating_from_Firebug

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