Enter and Tab keys stop working

[chuck.b...@gmail.com]

Any developments on this issue? After a while in Firefox on OS 10.4 my
tab and enter keys stop working within the browser window. I can hit
shift-enter, and that works. But there's no workaround for the tab
key...

It's super annoying to have to crash the browser, and hope that it
retains the session with all your open tabs.

Thanks.

[John J Barton]

Why do you think this is a Firebug problem?
Check the issues list for similar reports: does it only happen in OS
10.4?
Which version of Firebug? Firefox->Tools->Addons->Firebug.

On Dec 12, 11:57 am, "chuck.berge...@gmail.com"

[Garrett Smith]

Is it firebug that's stopping tab/enter from working?

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Monkey, so they say, is the root of all people today.

[tony]

I have this issue frequently, twice today in fact. I don't know what
causes it but restarting the browser fixes it. I do have other add-
ons besides firebug enabled, so i cant be sure what the source of the
problem is...

On Dec 12, 9:19 pm, "Garrett Smith" <dhtmlkitc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it firebug that's stopping tab/enter from working?
>

[tony]

I forgot to mention i use WinXP SP1...

[John J Barton]

And when you say "this issue", what is the problem? Chuck says

"tab and enter keys stop working within the browser window".

So I guess that tab and enter stop doing something they did before:
what is that something? Is the operation that stops related to
Firebug?

If yes, are there any errors in the jsconsole (Firefox->Tools-
>ErrorConsole) just before the keys begin to fail or when pressed
after they fail?

[Jason]

I'll also confirm this issue which I'm pretty sure is caused by
firebug because I've only experienced the problem since installing
firebug a couple weeks ago.

The problem occurs after some arbitrary amount of time and is
evidenced by the tab key no longer working in Firefox (I've confirmed
it continues to work in other applications) and the enter key no
longer working (I'm experiencing the problem now and in order to enter
new lines in this message have to hit shift-enter). Restarting
Firefox solves the issue for a while.

I'm using firebug 1.05 and Firefox 2.0.0.5 on OSX 10.4

-Jason

[John J Barton]

When the Enter and Tabs keys are working perfectly, what do they do
for you? People keep saying they stop working but I don't know what
they mean because I don't know what they expect the keys to do when
they function properly. The only place I see VK_TAB and VK_RETURN is
in the CommandLine code. Is that the use that you have for these keys?

John.

[Garrett Smith]

Here's waht ahppens whtn tab key stops working:

If I'm in a textarea, I hit tab, nothing happens. The i-beam stays in
the same place.

location, search box, any form field - tab key doesn't work. once i
switch apps, I can use tab. If I restart FF, I can use tab.

Normally, the tab key should change focus to the next focusable
element (inp, link, et c), to the search box, et c.

I use firebug's large command line option - FWIW.

Garrett

[Garrett Smith]

Here's waht ahppens whtn tab key stops working:

If I'm in a textarea, I hit tab, nothing happens. The i-beam stays in
the same place.

location, search box, any form field - tab key doesn't work. once i
switch apps, I can use tab. If I restart FF, I can use tab.

Normally, the tab key should change focus to the next focusable
element (inp, link, et c), to the search box, et c.

I use firebug's large command line option - FWIW.

Garrett

[tony]

Sorry, apparently my reply post describing the issue didnt work...

"the issue": after entering a url in the location bar, usually hitting
enter will pull start page load request. When "the issue" occurs the
enter key does nothing. same is also true for submitting forms,
usually hitting enter will submit a form, when "the issue" occurs
enter will do nothing.

hope this helps! like i said, i can not necessarily pin this on
firebug...

thanks!
-tony

On Dec 13, 11:48 am, John J Barton <johnjbar...@johnjbarton.com>

[John J Barton]

Someone who has this problem could build a version of Firebug without
the key handlers for tab and return to see if the problem goes away.
Here's how:
1) Create a new profile for Firefox
a) run firefox.exe -ProfileManager from your command line
b) Create new, say you call it TabWorky start Firefox
2) Load firebug 1.1, http://fireclipse.xucia.com
3) Reproduce the problem.
4) Navigate to the firebug content in profile TabWorky,
a)eg C:\Documents and Settings\John J. Barton\Application Data
\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\TabWorky
b)cd extensions\fir...@software.joehewitt.com\chrome\
5) Hack the jar file
a) rename firebug.jar firebug.zip
b) unzip firebug.zip
c) edit content/firebug/bindings.xml
d) remove the entire XML element <binding id="largeCommandLine" ...
e) rezip
f) rename firebug.zip firebug.jar
6) Try it.
7) Let us know.

[Dustin]

I've had this issue pop up from time to time. And it appears to be
that the tab and enter key don't work for the ENTIRE firefox interface
which makes me think it's not a firebug issue..

The biggest problem with this issue is that I have no idea how to
REPRODUCE the problem.

I've had this happen on OSX and Windows.

If anyone knows of a way to reproduce the problem please let us know.

I don't think it's firebug, though many believe this is a firebug
issue:
(Another firebug thread about the same issue:
http://groups.google.com/group/firebug/browse_thread/thread/e5f99704e59eb0b2)

P.S. If you use the top right search toolbar, you can google a site
and still get around with out the enter key.

[Garrett Smith]

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=400767

[John J Barton]

On Dec 19, 3:19 pm, Dustin <d...@dustinyork.com> wrote:
> I've had this issue pop up from time to time. And it appears to be
> that the tab and enter key don't work for the ENTIRE firefox interface
> which makes me think it's not a firebug issue..

I'm uncertain, but I believe that the key binding mechanism that
Firebug uses modifies the entire Firefox UI.

Another idea: open two windows. The next time the issue occurs, let us
know if both windows fail or just one.

[billykiller2]

I've been having issues with this for a long time here. Opening a new
window (regardless of the platform I'm on OS X 10.5 or XP) will fix
the problem in the new window but not the one currently open. Effects
all tabs open in this window from that point forward in that window.
I use firebug on both platforms and have been able to rule out most of
the other extensions that I use as causing the problem. I couldn't
say the same for firebug as i'm always using it. I can't ever
reproduce the problem. It seems to happen out of the blue regardless
of what I'm currently doing. The main times I notice it of course
seem to be when I need to use the enter or tab keys, usually filling
out a form. Any other information that you need let me know, it
happens often to me... Thanks - billy

On Dec 20 2007, 9:47 am, John J Barton <johnjbar...@johnjbarton.com>
wrote:

[royhobbs]

I love firebug, but I've been having this problem for a long long time
now and it has become a huge problem. It's affecting my work. I have
to fill out a lot of form fields every day in order to test and change
UI. I'm afraid I'm going to have to remove firebug, which
unfortunately is also a large part of my workflow, but it's too big of
a pain to have to restart firefox all the time. If anyone knows
anything else please let us know.

Thanks. Firebug rocks.

[John J Barton]

On Jan 4, 1:41 pm, royhobbs <benmjor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If anyone knows
> anything else please let us know.

Open firefox. Immediately open a new window. Minimize one of them.
When you have the problem, kill the problem window, go back to the
minimized one, open a new window.

This won't get fixed until 1.2. (Even then I don't know how to fix it
yet.)

John.

[chr...@gmail.com]

Just wanted to follow-up and say I"ve been having this problem for a
long time as well -- I haven't searched for this issue in a long time,
but now it appears to be getting search results.

I had this problem on Mac and Windows just the same. Enter + Tab stop
working in forms, and I have to force quit the browser and re-open it
to get my tabs going.

Anyway, the benefit of the tool far exceeds this snag which, once
fixed, will straighten the crown on Firebug's head.

Thanks!

[John]

I've also had this problem, for many months now, in both XP and Vista.
It only happens when firebug is enabled.

It seems to happen most often when I have firebug open in 2 tabs at
once. In fact, this may be the only time it happens, but I'm not
positive. Shift+enter still works, but enter does not.

On Dec 12 2007, 2:57 pm, "chuck.berge...@gmail.com"

[tony]

I was just doing some more research about this behavior, and noticed a
lot of reports about this issue, many that don't mention firebug. I
also noticed many mention gmail, and several of the posters here are
using gmail accounts. I often leave gmail open all day long (it is
open when i experience the enter/tab key issue). Anyone here not use
gmail?

On Jan 22, 7:29 pm, John <chaosmach...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've also had this problem, for many months now, in both XP and Vista.
> It only happens when firebug is enabled.
>
> It seems to happen most often when I have firebug open in 2 tabs at
> once. In fact, this may be the only time it happens, but I'm not

> positive. Shift+enterstill works, butenterdoes not.

>
> On Dec 12 2007, 2:57 pm, "chuck.berge...@gmail.com"
>
> <chuck.berge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Any developments on this issue? After a while in Firefox on OS 10.4 my

> >tabandenterkeys stop working within the browser window. I can hit

[thomberg]

On 13 Feb., 22:33, tony <tonym...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone here not use gmail?

I am affected by "this issue" every day but I dont use gmail.
I use Firefox 2.0.0.12 with Firebug 1.05 and many additional Addons:

ColorZilla 1.0
DOM Inspector 1.8.1.12
Html Validator 0.8.4.0
Live HTTP Headers 0.13.1
MeasureIt 0.3.6
Screen grab! 0.93
Talkback 2.0.0.12
Timer 1.01
Tiny Menu 1.4.6
Web Developer 1.1.4

[tony]

Well, i guess that rules out the gmail theory. The only addons we
have in common are the dom inspector and web developer...

thanks for the feedback!

[klamping]

I've disabled web developer toolbar for most of today and the problem
has yet to creep up since, despite it occurring several times in the
morning. I'm thinking this is the culprit, since most people who have
firebug installed also have web developer toolbar installed.

[Morgan Allen]

I have always thought this had something to do with flash, I seem to see it mostly after visiting flash heavy sites.

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[Doug Harris]

I don't have web developer installed and I still have the problem. In
fact, my tab and enter keys aren't working at this very moment... just
haven't yet restarted ffx. BTW, I recommend the "Session Fix"
extension for giving an option to remember the current session for
restart situations like this. -- Doug

[klamping]

Unfortunately I just experienced this bug now with Web Developer
toolbar off so the search for the culprit is still on. Don't know if I
could live with disabling firebug for a day.

> --http://morglog.alleycatracing.com

[John J Barton]

Has anyone ever had this happen while using Firefox 3.0?

[Morgan Allen]

I have a couple times now

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 8:18 AM, John J Barton <johnj...@johnjbarton.com> wrote:

Has anyone ever had this happen while using Firefox 3.0?

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[Morgan Allen]

Interesting, I just found that shift-enter will works in some cases.
And, to help more with Johns last question, I am on FF3B4.

[John J Barton]

Ok here is a suggestion.

While the enter is working bring up Firebug on a page where you think
the problem could occur in future (eg form filling or maybe google's
interface to this group).

Inspect the page, find the textarea that you will be using. On Firebug
HTML panel,right click on the textarea, select LogEvents.

Enter some text, esp enter and tab keys, to see what happens.

Now go on and wait for the problem.

Now with the problem, repeat: Do you see enter and tab events or
not???

John.

[Morgan Allen]

The difference is the input event does not occur for tab and enter, while it does for every other key.

pressing 'a'

keydown charCode=0, keyCode=65

keypress charCode=97, keyCode=0

input

keyup charCode=0, keyCode=65

pressing 'tab'

keydown charCode=0, keyCode=9

keypress charCode=0, keyCode=9

keyup charCode=0, keyCode=9

I also mentioned in my last email that shift-enter will submit form, but it also throws and error if logging is turned on.

panel is null console.js (line 44)

Hope this gives some sort of starting point. Having a quick look, the only reference I seem to find to input event is on line 1191 in dom.js

[paxunix]

On Apr 3, 8:18 am, John J Barton <johnjbar...@johnjbarton.com> wrote:
> Has anyone ever had this happen while using Firefox 3.0?

I definitely have in 3b4; haven't yet in 3b5 but I couldn't make it
happen reliably in 3b4 so I'm not certain it's fixed.

[Morgan Allen]

I have just had it happen again for the first time in a while. Same thing as last time, the input event is not firing. It appears to happen while switching tab, maybe something to do with CTRL-Tab event getting trapped.

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[John J Barton]

Ok I looked into this information a bit. The FF "input" event should
only be raised for keys that change the input. Tab usually moves to
the next control. Enter seems to depend, on INPUT elements I guess it
causes submit by default. For these cases, there would be no "input"
event.

Just to be clear, the difference I am looking for is between these two
cases:
1) fresh FF+firebug, when enter/tab works, event stream on an INPUT
and TEXTAREA element when tab/enter/'a' are pressed.
2) same but after the keys quite working.

No difference in the event streams?

John.

On Apr 3, 4:49 pm, "Morgan Allen" <morganral...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The difference is the input event does not occur for tab and enter, while it
> does for every other key.
>
> pressing 'a'
> keydown charCode=0, keyCode=65
> keypress charCode=97, keyCode=0
> input
> keyup charCode=0, keyCode=65
>
> pressing 'tab'
> keydown charCode=0, keyCode=9
> keypress charCode=0, keyCode=9
> keyup charCode=0, keyCode=9
>
> I also mentioned in my last email that shift-enter will submit form, but it
> also throws and error if logging is turned on.
>
> panel is null console.js (line 44)
>
> Hope this gives some sort of starting point. Having a quick look, the only
> reference I seem to find to input event is on line 1191 in dom.js
>

> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:27 PM, John J Barton <johnjbar...@johnjbarton.com>

> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Ok here is a suggestion.
>
> > While the enter is working bring up Firebug on a page where you think
> > the problem could occur in future (eg form filling or maybe google's
> > interface to this group).
>
> > Inspect the page, find the textarea that you will be using. On Firebug
> > HTML panel,right click on the textarea, select LogEvents.
>
> > Enter some text, esp enter and tab keys, to see what happens.
>
> > Now go on and wait for the problem.
>
> > Now with the problem, repeat: Do you see enter and tab events or
> > not???
>
> > John.
>

> --http://morglog.alleycatracing.com

[MuffinDCC]

I've disabled Web Developer and the problem is still occurring.
However, Firebug does seem to break a bit less but Firefox still has
issues with Tab and Enter

On Apr 1, 11:00 pm, klamping <klamp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've disabledwebdevelopertoolbar for most of today and the problem

> has yet to creep up since, despite it occurring several times in the
> morning. I'm thinking this is the culprit, since most people who have

> firebug installed also havewebdevelopertoolbar installed.

[Morgan Allen]

This is tab working, tabbing from a text field to a button

-text-
keydown charCode=0, keyCode=9

keypress charCode=0, keyCode=9

blur
-button-

focus

keyup charCode=0, keyCode=9

after is stops working
-text-

keydown charCode=0, keyCode=9

keypress charCode=0, keyCode=9

keyup charCode=0, keyCode=9

Not giving too much extra info.

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[Doug Harris]

A user has reported a repeatable test case for this!

There are two new comments on Issue 184 on the Firebug Google Code
site.

I tried the second test (http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?
id=184#c27) and it broke the tab and enter keys. Now that the problem
can be replicated, perhaps the fix will come quickly.

In the meantime, I'm going to try not to hit F5 when I'm editing css
properties.

[ste...@gmail.com]

Keep happening for me to. FF 2.0.0.14 Firebug 1.1b12, OS X 10.5.2.
Have not found any solution to issue then to restart FF.

[Doug Harris]

I've written up an even more detailed test case and have replicated it
using Firefox 2 on Mac and portable versions of Firefox 2 and 3b5 on
XP Pro (inside vmware). All tests were using the current stable
version of firebug 1.05.

Test case steps at http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?id=184#c29

Doug

On May 8, 2:51 pm, Doug Harris <dhar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A user has reported a repeatable test case for this!
>
> There are two new comments on Issue 184 on the Firebug Google Code
> site.
>
> I tried the second test (http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?

> id=184#c27) and it broke thetabandenterkeys. Now that the problem

[John J Barton]

Doug I really appreciate your efforts. However I don't think anyone is
working on 1.05. Please try your tests on Firebug 1.2/Firefox 3.0.
John

On May 12, 1:04 pm, Doug Harris <dhar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've written up an even more detailed test case and have replicated it
> using Firefox 2 on Mac and portable versions of Firefox 2 and 3b5 on
> XP Pro (inside vmware). All tests were using the current stable
> version of firebug 1.05.
>

> Test case steps athttp://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?id=184#c29

[Doug Harris]

Thanks, John. I'll try that.

Is there a target release date for Firebug 1.2?

[klamping]

I can also confirm that the use case specified earlier breaks the tab/
enter keys. I'll be sure to avoid that while waiting for a fix.

I'm on FF 2.0.0.14 with FB 1.1.0b12

[T Kay]

I've also been having this issue. I have Firebug, Web developer
toolbar, and DOM inspector. I don't suspect the DOM inspecotr.

I am going to try disabling the DOM inspector and see if this creeps
up for me any more. I'll definitely post something if it happens
again. I'll also try the keybindings hack mentioned earlier if it
does.

Tony

[John J Barton]

Please try Firebug 1.2 http://getfirebug.com/releases and let us know
if this problem persists.

[klamping]

I can't recreate the problem with Firebug 1.2. Tried have refreshing
while editing the CSS (used to cause the problem) and doesn't anymore.
I'll update if I run in to it after extended use. THANKS!

On May 21, 6:52 pm, John J Barton <johnjbar...@johnjbarton.com> wrote:
> Please try Firebug 1.2http://getfirebug.com/releasesand let us know