Eight signs of the danger of Telegram, one of Russia's most successful projects

[Adrian Marius Popa]

https://texty.org.ua/articles/112347/eight-signsof-danger-telegram-one-russias-most-successful-projects/

ps : i know now we have an Firebird channel on Telegram

[Mark Rotteveel]

On 25/08/2024 11:44, Adrian Marius Popa wrote:
> https://texty.org.ua/articles/112347/eight-signsof-danger-telegram-one-
> russias-most-successful-projects/

>
> ps : i know now we have an Firebird channel on Telegram

This is not sufficient to make it on-topic here IMHO. Please don't just
link dump, and at least provide some context why you think it is
relevant here and why it would be worthy of discussion (and in my
opinion, that PS falls short on that.

Mark
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Mark Rotteveel

[Adrian Marius Popa]

What i want to say is not secure as default with e2e encryption only if use secure chats 

https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/telegram-why-nobody-uses-secret-chats/46889/

So if you send senzitive databases use secure chats and not on the firebird channel on telegram (not secure by default)

[Dimitry Sibiryakov]

Adrian Marius Popa wrote 25.08.2024 12:59:
> What i want to say is not secure as default with e2e encryption only if use
> secure chats
> https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/telegram-why-nobody-uses-secret-chats/46889/
>
> So if you send senzitive databases use secure chats and not on the firebird
> channel on telegram (not secure by default)

It is not in slightest different from e-mail, telephone or any other
electronical channel of data transmission.
There is no point to make sensation from propaganda.

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WBR, SD.

[Adrian Marius Popa]

Group channel is public so no worries there similar like an irc channel , the issues is when you go on private the channel is saved on servers and can be decrypted by telegram (if secure chat is not enabled)

https://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2024/08/25/telegram-is-not-really-an-encrypted-messaging-app/

"Similarly, imagine you use Telegram for its social media-like features, meaning that you mainly consume content rather than producing it. But one day your friend, who also uses Telegram for similar reasons, notices you’re on the platform and decides she wants to send you a private message. Are you concerned about privacy now? And are you each going to manually turn on the “Secret Chat” feature — even though it requires four explicit clicks through hidden menus, and even though it will prevent you from communicating immediately if one of you is offline?

My strong suspicion is that many people who join Telegram for its social media features also end up using it to communicate privately. And I think Telegram knows this, and tends to advertise itself as a “secure messenger” and talk about the platform’s encryption features precisely because they know it makes people feel more comfortable. But in practice, I also suspect that very few of those users are actually using Telegram’s encryption. Many of those users may not even realize they have to turn encryption on manually, and think they’re already using it."

[Dimitry Sibiryakov]

Adrian Marius Popa wrote 29.08.2024 14:34:
> Group channel is public so no worries there similar like an irc channel , the
> issues is when you go on private the channel is saved on servers and can be
> decrypted by telegram (if secure chat is not enabled)

Once again: it doesn't differ from any other method of electronic
communication. Mails (including this one) is stored on servers and can be
decrypted. HTTPS traffic is stored on servers and can be decrypted etc. No room
for privacy in modern Internet left.
None of this has any relation to Firebird.

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WBR, SD.