Fwd: What about the ODBC driver in 2023?

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Jorge Andres Brugger

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Feb 14, 2023, 12:13:27 PM2/14/23
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Hello.
There have been no new releases of the ODBC driver for a long time. There are commits two years old or older in the Github repository that were never included in a release. There are issues migrated from Jira (I think) and open since 2014.
I would appreciate it if the management/development team could tell us (the driver users) about the plans for the project, if there is any.
Thank you
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Mark Rotteveel

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Feb 14, 2023, 12:38:56 PM2/14/23
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NOTE: This is my personal view on this and should not be seen as a
statement by the project as a whole.

The Firebird project is a collective of contributors, and those
contributors contribute to one or more of the sub-projects (e.g. Git
repository that are on https://github.com/FirebirdSQL/firebird, or to
the site, etc.). This is either volunteer work, possibly funded with a
grant by the Firebird Foundation for a specific task or sub-project, or
employees paid a company to work on Firebird.

If there is any management, it is generally per sub-project, or by
consensus of the contributors participating in the firebird-admin list.
In other words, there is not really a central authority that decides
that someone will need to work on the ODBC driver (and given
contributors are either volunteers, or employees paid to do specific
things by their employer, that wouldn't even work if there was such an
authority).

For a long time, the ODBC project had one main contributor, Alexander
Potapchenko, and he stopped contributing a little over 4 years ago, in
early 2019, as far as I'm aware without notifying anyone and without
trying to find a replacement. Last year there was word that a new
contributor had been found to take over the ODBC driver, but that
doesn't seem to have happened. The ODBC driver is therefor in limbo.

As long as no one steps up to do the work, or no one finds someone to do
the work, nothing will change.

Contributors are welcome and can apply on
[firebird-devel](https://groups.google.com/g/firebird-devel).

Mark
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Jorge Andres Brugger

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Feb 17, 2023, 12:58:40 PM2/17/23
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Thanks Mark.
I didn't know about Alexander or the eventual new offer to keep the subproject. I hope someone interested in maintaining the ODBC driver appears. Not sure how many developers still use it but we certainly do (from Clarion).
Regards

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Dimitry Sibiryakov

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Feb 17, 2023, 3:17:40 PM2/17/23
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Jorge Andres Brugger wrote 17.02.2023 18:58:
> I didn't know about Alexander or the eventual new offer to keep the subproject.
> I hope someone interested in maintaining the ODBC driver appears. Not sure how
> many developers still use it but we certainly do (from Clarion).

The driver's coding style is much "Starkysh" so not every ordinary human
being can handle it. I failed, for example.

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Dmitrii Kuzmenko

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Feb 17, 2023, 3:41:06 PM2/17/23
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Hello!
 
So what? current Firebird ODBC sources are "impossible to modify"?
Or, it need to be refactofed completely? Or ... ?
 
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Dimitry Sibiryakov

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Feb 17, 2023, 3:54:11 PM2/17/23
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Dmitrii Kuzmenko wrote 17.02.2023 21:41:
> So what? current Firebird ODBC sources are "impossible to modify"?
> Or, it need to be refactofed completely? Or ... ?

None of that. Just a little better developer with specific mindset is needed
for changes that are more complex that killing a bug or two.

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