Pmdg Airac Update

[Hadi Sapre]

TheNavigraph FMS Data Manager knows where to put the files. You can check the addon mappings (button upper right) to make sure it has the correct path to your FSX. That's all it needs to know, the navdata files are always in navdata and sidstar directories.

Hi. I had the same problem. The manager program couldn't locate the js41 although it did find captain sim 757. To work round this I purchased the manual download for pmdg products and it installed ok. It even backed up the original file. Just don't use the manager.

I juat bought it today (in may) and I have the same numbers on FMC so startup, so either I messed it up too, or that a serial number or something else (179600709 SM02). The data manager couldn't find my J41 either, and even the installer in the zip couldn't find it. I had to manually move the folders after they were installed in the wrong place.

Details- Instead of putting the navdata and sidstars folders in FSX-->PMDG, it creates ANOTHER folder with in the PMDG folder called PMDG which when opened, has the actual navdata and sidstars folder that have the data. Folderception!!

When you are setting up the Navigraph data manager for updating PMDG aircraft, you only have to point the installer at your FSX root directory - I.e. the main folder where FSX itself is installed. If you do this, the files will automatically be installed in the FSX\PMDG\Navdata folder that already exists. If you point the installer at the PMDG folder instead, it will "bury" the files two layers too deep - you will end up with the folder structure: FSX\PMDG\Navdata\PMDG\Navdata which won't work.

you should just buy a year subscription, its dirt cheap for what you get,most planes will find the correct path for you,even with x-plane, very few have to manually be set to the correct location, efb being one of them.

MSFS uses NavBlue nav data, and provides an API for 3rd party content makers (ie, planes) to access - and encourages them to do so. There are regular AIRAC data updates applied automatically in MSFS (13 per year?).

Their argument makes no sense. How a plane works has nothing to do with what waypoints the pilot wants to use in a flight plan. Also, I use Navigraph on an iPad, and import Simbrief plans in to the default 787, with (almost) no problems of missing or mismatch data when both are using the same AIRAC version. Maybe 1 here and there, easy to fix.

The native navdata - with missed approach procedures - works fine with the new 787 and 747. I import SImbrief / Navigraph flight plans in to the 787 (which uses the NavBlue database) and they match 99% of the time. So this is a bogus argument.

Obviously for PMDG to include Navigraph nav data would require a license, so do you suggest that PMDG forces marketplace customers to pay a 10 dollar / month subscription fee? Because having the navdata updates included in the plane, would require a per-user subscription.

Even worse for PC users who bought the plane on Marketplace, and are already paying for a Navigraph subscription. Would you want to force them to pay double?

If the Navblue airac was complete enough to make the PMDG systems work, that would be an option. I tend to believe PMDG in this case though, rather than a theory that they have a deal with navigraph preventing that.

When the sim was released, KASH, a super busy airport had no approach data. I had to program them in myself (I had figured out how back in the FSX days). Finally I think a year and a half later it was added in.

If you want to update the Navigraph Data in the 737 - 600 and do not have the 737 - 700 installed you can manually download the 2207 Rev 1 Airac cycle using the Navigraph FMS Data Manager, select PMDG All compatible Products (Download to a folder on your desktop) and then copy the NavData & SidStars folders in to the following \Community\pmdg-aircraft-736\Config

i went on today and got told i need to update my Airac to 1403 and gave me a link to the navigraph website. do i really have to pay for a monthly subscription as well to be able to have the wright airac system installed on my pmdg.

It's 5 dollars for one cycle, 27 dollars for a whole year. If you have three monitors, track ir, etc you can probably you can probably do the 27 once a year, or just buy a five dollar cycle when you get too out of sync with reality.

If you're looking for sympathy after posting about all of the money you've already spent shortly followed by a rant about not wanting to spend a few more dollars (or, apparently, the time to compose a post with proper grammar, capitalization, and without swearing)... I highly doubt you're going to find any.

I wasn't going to say anything, but Brad's post hit the nail on the head. It's like you said, "I want to be able to fly across the world in the best, most awesome business jet with all the creature comforts in the world whenever I want", dropped $50,000,000 on the most incredible jet there is that meets your every desire plus and $500,000 a year on a dedicated flight and cabin crew, and are ticked off that you'll need to spend $95 a year to keep the GPS databases updated. All depends on how much realism you want, I suppose....

What annoyed me was i bought the 1402 version on the 2/3/2014 then 6 days later i'm told to update it again which i'v just found out updated 2 days ago. Yes it's my fault for not doing my research on the airac side of things, i never read it properly and i thought i only need the one payment thinking it was a one off purchase i.e addon etc.

if you have 1402 you are fine. you dont exactly have to get each and every update. its not always that much of a big change to need to do that. 1402 should get you by for awhile until you start seeing big differences

The question is, why were you told you had to get the next cycle? Were you trying to fly a particular procedure that wasn't in your current cycle? If that's the case, then yeah, you need the latest. But as others have said, you're generally fine with data that is a few cycles old, since not a whole lot changes from one cycle to the next. It's just a question of whether or not the things that DO change are things that you need.

The advice you've gotten here is good. To add, if you are given a clearance to fly a particular procedure and find that you can't because you don't have it on board, the best thing you can do is 'fess up and tell the controller "I'm sorry sir, my AIRAC is a few cycles old and I don't have that one on board. Unable." The controller will then give you an alternate clearance / vectors that you can fly. And, of course, don't file a flight plan that contains procedures you don't have.

For example, if you file LOOP6 out of KLAX, I'd clear you using the LOOP7 departure. If the frequency isn't saturated, I'll explain that the ground track hasn't changed, only the way some of the altitude crossing restrictions were denoted.

You'll get a PSS directory there. Put toper-db-updater.exe into this directory and run it. Copy the runways_10.dat and airports_10.dat to the Toper Calculator Tool directory and overwrite the older ones. That's it.

Tried doing this however Toper still says Airac 1303. Both airports_10 and runways_10 are updated, but airports.dat still says the file is from 2013. Does this mean the airac cycle was not updated correctly?

Having trouble with the utility after installing AIRAC 2102. When I run the program, I get error message as per attach photo. I installed the updated PSS and PMDG AIRAC and still have this problem. Any idea what is causing this issue??

Today I tried to update my AIRAC. So far the generation of the 2 files for APT + RWY worked without any problems. But they are named differently than the ones in the ".../data/pss" folder. So there is no chance of overwriting any files... Maybe the data name changed?

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