Neko Sounds

[Miss Ruhnke]

Fromtime to time, to control how cats act, I use other cat sounds (I play these sounds using my phone). Female cats are attracted to crying kittens, whether they are spayed or not, while male cats are controlled by fighting cats.

In case of emergencies, such as getting a hiding cat out for a vet visit, I use these sounds and I will keep using them. However, from time to time, I also use these sounds to goad my cat to sleep with me. I can see that he gets unsettled, as there are dangerous territorial cats around that he cannot see, but it usually takes five to ten minutes for him to relax.

Interestingly, his first move is to finish whatever is in the bowl, whether to remove scent evidence or to make sure that he won't lose his share of chonks. Then, he comes to me because he trusts that I can protect him.

The way you describe it, there seems to be some stress for your cat when he hears the recorded meows. You describe the hasty eating and that he takes some time to settle down. In my experience, seeing and hearing other cats close to their territory can stress cats.

Should you do this purely for your own entertainment?I think most cat owners would agree that this is a simple and probably less stressful method to get a cat to the vet than having to e.g. chase it through the house.But you also do this purely because you want entertainment. I am not deep into philosophy or ethics and in the end the decision is yours. Do you feel like this interferes with your cat's free will? (Assuming it has one.) Would you appreciate it if someone did it to you? (Whether you are aware or not.) I think this is something everyone has to know for themselves.

You do describe some behaviour that might speak against it, but I was wondering whether you conditioned your cat. He hears the meow and thinks: "Hell yeah, cuddle time again!" This might play into the whole thing or not at all. But I thought it might be worth noting.

This is a form of manipulation. I can think of more cruel things. It doesn't sound to be causing harm to the cat especially in the case with the veterinary. At least no more harm than the harm of domesticating an animal (in case you consider that harmful or beneficial).

I also use these sounds to goad my cat sleep with me. I can see that he gets unsettled, as there are dangerous territorial cats around that he cannot see, but it usually takes five ten minutes for him to relax.

From a medical standpoint, you aren't actually harming your cat. If your cat relaxes after 5-10 minutes and doesn't seem to be stressed-out beyond some tension while the sound is playing, I can't see any serious long-term side effects other than being a bit more territorial or anxious with other cats.

This is a question that only you can answer. However, if I asked myself, "what would a vet do here", their response would probably be to avoid deceiving your pet as much as possible. I will not rank this as you need to do this one yourself. N/A

Ironically enough, this website is similar to a public forum, but the question assumes a highly popular/visited forum or news site. It wouldn't be a positive story, but I doubt that you would be getting death threats. 2/4

There were 32 possible points you could earn, and you earned 21 of them. Three questions were N/A and you need to asses them yourself. Overall, 21/32 isn't bad, it's more than one-half positive, meaning it is leaning toward ethical.

I agree with the other answers that personal ethics and philosophy come into play here, but I would also like to point out your responsibility towards your cat. You took him in (hopefully) to give him a good life.

To me, a good life means a life without any unnecessary stress. In the cases where you use it to get your cat to the vet, I can see some value to your method. Though there are less stressful alternatives I can think of, like treats or calming powders.

However, using it to get cuddles only serves your selfish needs. I would kindly suggest that you stop manipulating your cat into cuddling with you out of stress. Instead, treat him with the love and care he needs, and he will most likely come to you voluntarily.

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Hissing sounds are most often directed at other animals or cats, and play a big role in territorial disagreements and fights over mating. They can serve as a warning before a throw down, so again, remove yourself from the situation until the cat has time to cool down.

Unaltered male and female cats will make long moaning sounds when looking for mates. Female cats sometimes sound like a human baby crying! Another reason the males make this noise is to claim their lady and hopefully deter other males from trying to serenade her.

Sure, why not? The main problem you will run into is establishing contrastiveness. I strongly recommend reading ch. 4 of the Handbook of the IPA. You can hear two different cats purring at the wiki page, so the question is whether those are two different purr phonemes (technically known as "purreme") or one with a big variation in realization? You could transcribe it as [ʔ̆ɨ̥̃̆ʔ̆ɨ̥̃̆ʔ̆ɨ̥̃̆ʔ̆ɨ̥̃̆ʔ̆ɨ̥̃̆ʔ̆ɨ̥̃̆], though you might have to explain that the breve implies a duration of about 5 msc. Apart from the inconvenience of writing all this junk, there is a deeper scientific question of whether it's wrong to imply that a purr is really made up of lots of tiny segments. So this is where, in dealing with language, somebody would propose a new symbol for this newly discovered sound. You could then propose [ﮛ] to represent this sound, but I doubt it would get approved.

With real language, the IPA symbol [a] represents a wide range of physical sounds, not a precise single physical sound (that doesn't even mean anything). At a certain point, an apparent "a" is far enough back that it sounds like the range of sounds represented as [ɑ], and then you can argue that writing "a" is an error and instead "ɑ" should be used. But that's only possible because there are languages that contrast [a] and [ɑ], so we know that [a] and [ɑ] are different things. The [a] of Arabic and the [a] of English (not US English) are different, but that doesn't motivate inventing new vowel letters: because, IPA is not a system for reducing arbitrary acoustic waveforms to combinations of letters.

Aside from @user6726's answer this is my personal view:Phonetic transcription is based on humans' articulation capabilities (You can say, for example the /k/ sound is velar, but do cats use their soft palate to produce sounds?) Imagine a hypothetical creature that makes a sound like modems' (actually old dial-up modems) sounds. We would transcribe that sound in a way that our mind hears it as if it were language. For better understanding, you can have in mind that in languages like Persian, the cat's meow is transcribed as /miu:/. Having said that, you first have to see how the cat articulates this sound (you could use MRI or cameras), then you have to see how the cat produces it and you can assign a symbol for it.

BUT there is another assumption in question: Can we use IPA for transcribing cat's sounds? YES. But it might - and will - cause a lot of confusion. Do cats use the same manners of articulation as humans do?

If you'd like to transcribe how we perceive cat language (as opposed to how cats do), you might be interested in the corresponding problem for bird song, which has at least some literature. I found a reference to an LSA talk from 1977 by Donegan and Stampe, "Old Sam Peabody, Peabody, Peabody".

I would like to encourage you in your transcription efforts on cat's phoneme inventory! I am a student of linguistics (B.Sc.) and I have two cats, too - that's why I have been thinking of doing the same one day. We often face men, even scientists, who claim that speech as a unique feature to the human race. When it comes up to explore speech in other species, the research is no longer free or open to new ideas but blocked as the results may question no less than the human supremacy: If we had evidence that various species do have language and use it on purpose (this requires advanced cognitive skills), it would be increasingly hard to keep up the human centric view on the world. So keep on noting down the distinctions that you recongnize in your cat's utterances and do not be discouraged if this would require creating a new kind of IPA chart for the felidae.

There is no specific meaning. It can serve to call attention to something in its surroundings, making it possible for us to understand the cat's message. A meow near a closed door may indicate the cat wants to go out and one near an empty feeder that the cat is hungry. It is believed that most meows are random sounds which the cat learns to use to communicate with the people around, so that each household with a cat has its own glossary of meows for food, caressing, playing, attention, etcetera.

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