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EARL CROASMUN

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Jul 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/24/00
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-> -Dang, Charlie! You left out the "lie" part. As a matter of fact,
-> -the only part you quoted was the part where she said he
-> -responded. :)

-> >False statement = lie. Look it up. Live with it, your President
-> >is a liar.

-> Look it up yourself. A lie certainly is a false statement, but
-> not all false statements are lies.

-> In your dictionary you will find that a lie is a false statement
-> made with the deliberate intent to deceive.

As in the phrase "INTENTIONALLY false?"

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Bob Eyer

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> >False statement = lie. Look it up. Live with it, your President

> >is a liar.

-Look it up yourself. A lie certainly is a false statement, but
-not all false statements are lies.

-In your dictionary you will find that a lie is a false statement
-made with the deliberate intent to deceive.

>As in the phrase "INTENTIONALLY false?"

No, that won't do it. If Jones tells Baker that the Moon is
made of green cheese, the likelihood is that Jones knew what he
told Baker is false; but that still wouldn't qualify as a lie.

To prove that he lied you would have to show that Jones intended
to DECEIVE Baker by intentionally telling him something false.

To prove deception, you would have to show that there was a
serious effort on the part of the speaker to have the listener
believe something that the speaker knew to be false.

If I simply tell you the Moon is made of green cheese, I'm not
doing that.

Bob

Gary Braswell

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Jul 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/24/00
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MW>whilst talking to MIMI, CENTURION said:

MW>C>You starting to take things out of context again, Mimi? You really
MW>C>are a glutton for punishment.

MW>You certainly couldn't dish out that "punishment", someone that has a
MW>positive number IQ (something you desperately lack) would be needed to
MW>do that. Are you going to threaten me with a .45 ? You talk a lot about
MW>honor, you've never demonstrated that you even understand it.

Lets drop the insults Mimi.
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Joe Lafoon

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While Stan Hardegree gunned down Charles Doll, Joe charged his Tau Cannon...

DK->>> Seems to me that a passing familiarity with the New
DK->>> Teatament would be a basic requirement for posting here.

DK->>No Jews need apply, eh Stanley, you old antisemite.

CD> I didn't know that Jews were barred from mention in the New
CD> Testament?

SH> I was under the impression that Jesus, John the Baptist, Peter and the
SH> rest of the disciples were Jewish.

SH> My kindgom for a smart liberal....

What I found most amusing by this exchange was that Randal comes back,
calls you Stanley, and IMMEDIATELY Mimi and David do the same.

Not an ounce of originality in the lot of them.


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Don Martin

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Jul 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/24/00
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Centurion said "PROS & CONS" to Joe Lafoon, adding:

JL> While Mimi Weasel gunned down Joe Lafoon, Joe charged his Tau
JL> Cannon...

JL>>Is this reasoned debate among the left, Mimi? Or just more hypocrisy?

MW>> It _is_ idiotic to claim that the Army gave the Vice President a
MW>> bodyguard, someone here said that if someone else didn't like being
MW>> ridiculed for saying stupid things they should stop saying stupid
MW>> things. I don't remember who the idiot was that is why I said some
MW>> idiot, I didn't want to blame the wrong person for a wrong stupidity.

JL> In my last packet 90% or more of your posts contained insults, mostly
JL> direct. Is that what you consider reasoned debate, Mimi? You
JL> certainly don't like it when Richard calls you names, why do you persist
JL> on calling others names?

JL> It is only idiotic to claim Gore didn't have a body guard if he
JL> didn't. I don't know the details, but it seems far-fetched to me. I have
JL> never denied the fact that Gore served his country. There is only one
JL> coward in the White House, it isn't Gore. Any service to the country is
JL> commendable. WRT that, I have no problem with Gore or Bush.

Ce> Well, Gore DID have a squad detailed to watch his sorry
Ce> butt in Nam. He was not taken to anyplace hot until after
Ce> the action was all over, and those guys followed him around
Ce> to keep him from getting shot, under orders.

Ce> Seems daddy pulled some strings back home to get that done.

Really, one cannot blame Al Gore for that.
Hyperprotective parents frequently rob kids of their chance
to realize their manhood. I expect that everybody who has
been in has known about such "special" soldiers, more in
danger of dying from overindulgence than from enemy action.


.. Through a Jaundiced Eye Darkly--Rheum With a View
(don.m...@mail.va.gov)


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Don Martin

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Dan Kimmel

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While Stan Hardegree gunned down Charles Doll, Joe charged his Tau
Cannon...

DK->>> Seems to me that a passing familiarity with the New
DK->>> Teatament would be a basic requirement for posting here.

DK->>No Jews need apply, eh Stanley, you old antisemite.

CD> I didn't know that Jews were barred from mention in the New
CD> Testament?

SH> I was under the impression that Jesus, John the Baptist, Peter and the
SH> rest of the disciples were Jewish.

What does that have to do with it? It could be filled with Jewish
characters and yet your "New" Testament is still something that present-day
Jews need not be familiar with as it is totally irrelevant to us.

SH> My kindgom for a smart liberal....

Certainly we needn't worry about finding a "smart conservative" because --
excepting, perhaps, William F. Buckley -- it's practically an oxymoron, in
this discussion group at any rate.

Gary Braswell

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Jul 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/25/00
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JL>While Stan Hardegree gunned down Charles Doll, Joe charged his Tau Cannon...

JL> DK->>> Seems to me that a passing familiarity with the New
JL> DK->>> Teatament would be a basic requirement for posting here.

JL> DK->>No Jews need apply, eh Stanley, you old antisemite.

JL> CD> I didn't know that Jews were barred from mention in the New
JL> CD> Testament?

JL> SH> I was under the impression that Jesus, John the Baptist, Peter and the
JL> SH> rest of the disciples were Jewish.

JL> SH> My kindgom for a smart liberal....

JL>What I found most amusing by this exchange was that Randal comes back,
JL>calls you Stanley, and IMMEDIATELY Mimi and David do the same.

JL>Not an ounce of originality in the lot of them.


You begin to notice patterns on the sides as they take up common
phrases, names or actions. Its rather humorous.
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Gary Braswell

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Jul 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/25/00
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K>From: "Dan Kimmel" <dan.k...@worldnet.att.net>

K> While Stan Hardegree gunned down Charles Doll, Joe charged his Tau
K>Cannon...

K> DK->>> Seems to me that a passing familiarity with the New
K> DK->>> Teatament would be a basic requirement for posting here.

K> DK->>No Jews need apply, eh Stanley, you old antisemite.

K> CD> I didn't know that Jews were barred from mention in the New
K> CD> Testament?

K> SH> I was under the impression that Jesus, John the Baptist, Peter and the
K> SH> rest of the disciples were Jewish.

K>What does that have to do with it? It could be filled with Jewish
K>characters and yet your "New" Testament is still something that present-day
K>Jews need not be familiar with as it is totally irrelevant to us.

K> SH> My kindgom for a smart liberal....

K>Certainly we needn't worry about finding a "smart conservative" because --
K>excepting, perhaps, William F. Buckley -- it's practically an oxymoron, in
K>this discussion group at any rate.


Lets drop the insults to the discussion group.


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David Worrell

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Jul 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/25/00
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24 Jul 00 22:01, Joe Lafoon wrote to Stan Hardegree:

JL> What I found most amusing by this exchange was that Randal comes back,
JL> calls you Stanley, and IMMEDIATELY Mimi and David do the same.

JL> Not an ounce of originality in the lot of them.

I've called Stan Stanley before, Joe.

Ooops.

David Worrell

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Stan Hardegree

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Jul 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/26/00
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DK>> Christian Messiah. That still doesn't make it a document
DK>> that non-Christians are required to have a "passing
DK>> familiarity" with for purposes of political discussion.

EH> It was all written by Jews. About a Jew who preached among
EH> Jews.

EH> Many Jews DO have a passing familiarity with it. The fact
EH> that you and Mimi don't only shows your ignorance.

EH> It requires a passing familiarity with it for one to comment
EH> on it. It matters not what the forum is.

Seems to me that all literate people would possess a passing familiarity with
he New Testament.

It is testament to the life of the most important human being ever to live.

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Dan Kimmel

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"Stan Hardegree" <com.gratisnet.p2@hardegree> wrote in message
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>
>
> DK>> Christian Messiah. That still doesn't make it a document
> DK>> that non-Christians are required to have a "passing
> DK>> familiarity" with for purposes of political discussion.
>
> EH> It was all written by Jews. About a Jew who preached among
> EH> Jews.
>
> EH> Many Jews DO have a passing familiarity with it. The fact
> EH> that you and Mimi don't only shows your ignorance.
>
> EH> It requires a passing familiarity with it for one to comment
> EH> on it. It matters not what the forum is.
>
> Seems to me that all literate people would possess a passing familiarity
with
> he New Testament.

Like you have a "passing familiarity" with the Talmud. Oy gevalt, what a
hypocrite.

>
> It is testament to the life of the most important human being ever to
live.

I have no desire to go that far off-topic, but rest assured, Stanley, to
non-Christians he is utterly irrelevant. I have no need to read about his
life or your "new" testament any more than I have to read the Koran. Yes
one can read it as literature or for comparative religion, but it isn't a
priority for the majority of people -- all non-Christians -- around the
world.


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