Tim Richardson
Centurion
23 Jul 00 19:30, Bob Sakowski wrote to Centurion:
BS> -=> CENTURION wrote to BOB SAKOWSKI <=-
BS> re: McCain & Bradley
CE>> As far as those two endorsing Bush and Gore, what other
CE>> choice do they have if they really are party loyalists?
BS> They both cast themselves as *atypical* politicians and to give
BS> support to those who hacked on them would only sow that they were
BS> plain, old, vanilla, *typical* politicians. IOW, bullshit artists
BS> of the first order.
That's a crock, Bob. During the primary campaign, members of the same party
are vying for the lead and the chance to face the opposition party. The RIGHT
thing to do when one emerges as the winner, is for the losers to back them up
as the party representative in the general election. Or are you trying to tell
us that you prefer balkanization of the election process?
Centurion (rift...@netscape.net)
Patriots do what must be done, all others merely die.
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Gary Braswell
DW>20 Jul 00 13:42, Gary Braswell wrote to David Worrell:
DW> DW>> I see that skipping those 1600 messages didn't make me
DW> DW>> miss much.
DW> GB> There is more to the echo than Stan.
DW> But Stan is the biggest whiner and in the running for
DW> being the biggest hypocrite, so he's quite fun.
DW> And those delusions of grandeur are *so* cute.
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Gary Braswell
SH>SH>>again, Janet Reno will ignore that recommendation. Has the
SH>SH>>Justice Department been politicized into irrelevance? What's
SH>SH>>the point of having a task force at all if you uniformly
SH>SH>>disregard its recommendations?
SH> GB> There seems to be little doubt there should be a special
SH> GB> prosecutor in this case. Maybe the head of the Justice Dept.
SH> GB> should be appointed for life, free of political
SH> GB> considerations?
SH>I would rather that the AG be accountable to someone. In the event of a
SH>corrupt AG, who would prosecute and remove him under your plan? Perhaps the
SH>House Judiciary Committee could make a recommendation to be approved or
SH>rejected by the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Sounds good to me and they could police him as well.
SH>SH>>We are in the middle of a presidential election in which the
SH>SH>>vice president should probably be 20 points up in the polls.
SH>SH>>Yet, he now trails his opponent by double digits is some
SH>SH>>polls, and there is a credible third-party candidate who may
SH>SH>>take votes from him. Why is Gore behind? Maybe a better
SH>SH>>question is, why is Bush ahead?
SH> GB> Gore has little to no charisma and flip flops on a weekly
SH> GB> basis. Gore is also the victim of Clinton fatigue. I could
SH> GB> probably run against Gore and win.
SH>I read this morning that Gore is trying to bolster his support with
organized
SH>labor. While he may be able successfully to court the leadership, I suspect
SH>that he has lost a good deal of the membership. Not sure what that's worth
SH>really, with union membership continuously waning.
The Teamsters and one other union were not on the Gore boat yet and
considering how Clinton turned his back on unions in the past, Gore may
inherit the enmity.
I am thinking unions may make a comeback, but not in traditional fields.
I am thinking they might come back in the IT field. People are literally
being worked to death, being plucked back in the middle of vacation out
of country even.
SH>SH>>More broadly speaking, all three networks and CNN have seen
SH>SH>>their newscast ratings tank. At the same time, websites like
SH>SH>>Free Republic, Newsmax and Lucianne.com have taken off (a
SH>SH>>concept known in journalism schools as "narrowcatch"). What
SH>SH>>are the implications of this trend?
SH> GB> People can get their news and entertainment when they want,
SH> GB> not when the networks want.
SH>Very liberating. And it's not just a matter of when, but what.
True, you can tailor make your news to themes you are interested in.
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MG>On 07-21-00, STAN HARDEGREE said to MICHAEL GOTHREAU:
MG>DW>>No big surprise there - did Stan immediately degenerate into
MG>DW>>"Anyone who read further than this is an idiot" or did he
MG>DW>>actually keep up his end of the "reasoned debate" for a few
MG>DW>>exchanges?
MG>MG> I did see one post which contained pretty much, exactly the
MG>MG> phrase "Anyone who read further than this is an idiot"...
MG>MG> I thought it was an attempt at clowning around.
MG>SH>That's pretty much it.
MG>SH>The comment is designed to convey the idea that I couldn't care less what
MG>SH>people like Molly Ivins think about anything.
MG>When I tried a similar tactic I got Ed all over me.
MG>I think you deserve the same.
To get Ed all over Stan?
Yech!
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Stan Hardegree
SH>>> suspect we're about to get hit with a heavy dose of
SH>>> rompin' stompin', red-hot, he-man testosterone.
DW>> I'll leave that to your pal Centurion - he does it so
DW>> well, after all.
DW>> Or is that somehow different, too?
C> Has he ever entered into a legit discussion of anything here?
Nope.
C> I can't recall ever seeing more than one post in a row where
C> he has even attempted to carry on a political discussion.
He's not here for that.
---
Joe Lafoon
While David Worrell gunned down Joe Lafoon, Joe charged his Tau Cannon...
SH>> "My bossnode went tits up and I missed some mail."
SH>> "I was behind and deleted a lot of posts."
SH>> Two classics.
JL> Yet he has threatened to research his archive to prove you wrong on
JL> things...
DW> I have? Are you sure?
We had a discussion on this via netmail. You don't remember that? You
explained your limitations on archives then.
JL> how do you have an archive if you delete messages when you
JL> are behind?
DW> Do you know how squish message bases work, Joe?
No. And I don't really care.
DW> Would you like to see the batch files I use to back them
DW> up on the 1st and 15th of every month, unless I decide
DW> to keep them around longer?
Oh, NOW you ask, but before I respond you netmail me the darn thing
anyway. No, I don't want to see it, it doesn't concern me. Ooops, never
mind.
DW> Or are you engaging in the common "conservative"
DW> practice of shooting off at the mouth about subjects of
DW> which you have little to no understanding?
I know you claim an archive. I know you claimed to have deleted
messages. What more do I need to draw the conclusion I did?
DW> Once again, Joe - I do not use the same message system
DW> you use. You can't look at what you use and determine
DW> what I can or can not do here. Not without looking
DW> stupid as all hell, that is.
Looks like I touched a nerve. I think claiming an archive and claiming
you delete messages is pretty stupid. Calling you on it doesn't make me
look stupid, David.
Joe Lafoon jla...@home.com ICQ# 448659
.. "Mom, what's an orgasm?" "I don't know, ask your dad."
Joe Lafoon
While Mimi Weasel gunned down Ed Connell, Joe charged his Tau Cannon...
EC>Mimi, your posting style has been slipping lately.
EC>I won't guess about the reason.
MW> The reason is simple, I'm sick and tired of the rude obnoxious
MW> disgusting behavior of a few (they know who they are) who lie and
MW> insult without ever adding anything political to their tirades. I
MW> believe you to have become immune because you've seen it going on for
MW> so long and it isn't your kid getting lied about.
Just so I understand your position correctly, you respond to one or two
posts from ONE person with packets and packets of insults directed at
practically EVERYONE in the echo who happens to disagree with you?
Mostly attacking in threads you weren't even involved in?
Can't you just hit the <next> key like the rest of us do? Sheesh.
Joe Lafoon jla...@home.com ICQ# 448659
.. Communication is for wimps! Real men beat sense into each other!
Joe Lafoon
While David Worrell gunned down Stan Hardegree, Joe charged his Tau Cannon...
SH> I hope my bossnode don't go tits up or that I get so far behind I have
SH> to delete mail (sotto voce: how hard is it to keep up with this paltry
SH> amount of reading?)
DW> I must have missed your similar question to Birkholz who
DW> is currently responding to messages from May.
The clear difference being, Allen has never used it as a lame excuse.
Joe Lafoon jla...@home.com ICQ# 448659
.. If books are outlawed, only outlaws will be educated.
David Worrell
23 Jul 00 00:00, Stan Hardegree wrote to David Worrell:
SH>>> You've elevated our debate to the "pencil neck geek"
SH>>> plateau,
DW>> At least I reserve such comments for people who stand a
DW>> chance of reading them. I could be like you and utter
DW>> such comments about people that don't even read the echo
DW>> and don't have a chance to respond to them.
SH> Huh?
SH> What in heaven's name are you talking about?
Oh, joy - Hardegree Standard Defense #2.
Will two examples suffice? Read on.
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Msg : 215 of 1930 -214 +216
From : Stan Hardegree 1:170/302.2 13 Jul 00 00:00:00
To : EARL CROASMUN 17 Jul 00 08:43:38
Subj : Misleading?
ДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДД
->> Disgraced? Not really.
EC> I doubt there is anyone who really believes that, even
EC> within the Clinton family.
Maybe in some places on this planet, a 51-year-old married man getting his dick
sucked by some fat intern is considered other than disgraceful behavior.
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Msg : 362 of 1930 -155 +404
From : Stan Hardegree 1:170/302.2 17 Jul 00 00:00:00
To : Joe Lafoon 17 Jul 00 20:34:30
Subj : VPC Web Site Decimated by
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JL>> And a T1 connection for full-screen MPGs.
EH>> What do you mean T-1? He's got a T-3! <g>
JL> Another fine Al Gore invention, I am sure. <G>
Did you catch that lisping buffoon on Russert yesterday?
Worth the price of admission.
--cut--
Wait.. don't tell me - some liberal posted those
messages using your name to make you look bad, right? I
knew there had to be some explanation.
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David Worrell
23 Jul 00 10:55, FRANK SCHEIDT wrote to DAVID WORRELL:
FS> -=> Quoting David Worrell to Stan Hardegree <=-
SH>> I hope my bossnode don't go tits up or that I get so far behind I
SH>> have to delete mail (sotto voce: how hard is it to keep up with
SH>> this paltry amount of reading?)
DW>> I must have missed your similar question to Birkholz who
DW>> is currently responding to messages from May.
FS> Who is *she*? Perhaps a *third* name for Mimi Wotzername?
FS> .
You don't get out much, do you?
Ed Hulett
MG>>On 07-21-00, STAN HARDEGREE said to MICHAEL GOTHREAU:
MG>>DW>>No big surprise there - did Stan immediately degenerate
MG>>into DW>>"Anyone who read further than this is an idiot" or
MG>>did he DW>>actually keep up his end of the "reasoned debate"
MG>>for a few DW>>exchanges?
MG>>MG> I did see one post which contained pretty much, exactly
MG>>the MG> phrase "Anyone who read further than this is an
MG>>idiot"...
MG>>MG> I thought it was an attempt at clowning around.
MG>>SH>That's pretty much it.
MG>>SH>The comment is designed to convey the idea that I couldn't
MG>>care less what SH>people like Molly Ivins think about
MG>>anything.
MG>>When I tried a similar tactic I got Ed all over me.
MG>>I think you deserve the same.
GB> To get Ed all over Stan?
GB> Yech!
Hey!
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Ed Hulett
Ed Hulett
Ed Hulett
Ed Hulett
Stan Hardegree
SH>>I read this morning that Gore is trying to bolster his
SH>>support with organized labor. While he may be able
SH>>successfully to court the leadership, I suspect that he has
SH>>lost a good deal of the membership. Not sure what that's
SH>>worth really, with union membership continuously waning.
GB> The Teamsters and one other union were not on the Gore boat
GB> yet and considering how Clinton turned his back on unions in
GB> the past, Gore may inherit the enmity.
The UAW is reportedly sitting this election out along with the Teamsters.
Gore's support of NAFTA won him few union friends.
GB> I am thinking unions may make a comeback, but not in
GB> traditional fields. I am thinking they might come back in
GB> the IT field. People are literally being worked to death,
GB> being plucked back in the middle of vacation out of country
GB> even.
Sounds like you speak from experience. But this is nothing that the average
Army second lieutenant doesn't experience.
SH>>SH>>More broadly speaking, all three networks and CNN have
SH>>seen SH>>their newscast ratings tank. At the same time,
SH>>websites like SH>>Free Republic, Newsmax and Lucianne.com
SH>>have taken off (a SH>>concept known in journalism schools as
SH>>"narrowcatch"). What SH>>are the implications of this trend?
SH>> GB> People can get their news and entertainment when they
SH>> want, GB> not when the networks want.
SH>>Very liberating. And it's not just a matter of when, but
SH>>what.
GB> True, you can tailor make your news to themes you are
GB> interested in. -!-
For example, why read anything from AmPol or Molly Ivins when Chris Hitchens
and Alexander Cockburn are out there on the left, writing lucidly.
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Stan Hardegree
SH>> I hope my bossnode don't go tits up or that I get so far
SH>> behind I have to delete mail (sotto voce: how hard is it to
SH>> keep up with this paltry amount of reading?)
DW>> I must have missed your similar question to Birkholz who
DW>> is currently responding to messages from May.
JL> The clear difference being, Allen has never used it as a
JL> lame excuse.
And I pointed out the same thing re. Allen's posts to Ross.
Stan Hardegree
DW>>> At least I reserve such comments for people who stand a
DW>>> chance of reading them. I could be like you and utter
DW>>> such comments about people that don't even read the echo
DW>>> and don't have a chance to respond to them.
SH>> Huh?
SH>> What in heaven's name are you talking about?
DW> Oh, joy - Hardegree Standard Defense #2.
.........
DW> Maybe in some places on this planet, a 51-year-old married
DW> man getting his dick sucked by some fat intern is considered
DW> other than disgraceful behavior.
Are you telling me that you regard comments about Slick and his whores to be
cheap shots because they are not here to respond?
Are you really saying that? In a politics echo?
Hoo boy.
Gary Braswell
Drop this.
DW>23 Jul 00 00:00, Stan Hardegree wrote to David Worrell:
DW> SH>>> You've elevated our debate to the "pencil neck geek"
DW> SH>>> plateau,
DW> DW>> At least I reserve such comments for people who stand a
DW> DW>> chance of reading them. I could be like you and utter
DW> DW>> such comments about people that don't even read the echo
DW> DW>> and don't have a chance to respond to them.
DW> SH> Huh?
DW> SH> What in heaven's name are you talking about?
DW> Oh, joy - Hardegree Standard Defense #2.
DW> Will two examples suffice? Read on.
DW>--cut--
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DW> Msg : 215 of 1930 -214 +216
DW> From : Stan Hardegree 1:170/302.2 13 Jul 00
DW>00:00:00
DW> To : EARL CROASMUN 17 Jul 00
DW> 08:43:38
DW> Subj : Misleading?
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DW>->> Disgraced? Not really.
DW> EC> I doubt there is anyone who really believes that, even
DW> EC> within the Clinton family.
DW>Maybe in some places on this planet, a 51-year-old married man getting his
DW>dick
DW>sucked by some fat intern is considered other than disgraceful behavior.
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DW> Msg : 362 of 1930 -155 +404
DW> From : Stan Hardegree 1:170/302.2 17 Jul 00
DW>00:00:00
DW> To : Joe Lafoon 17 Jul 00
DW> 20:34:30
DW> Subj : VPC Web Site Decimated by
DW>ДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДДД
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DW> JL>> And a T1 connection for full-screen MPGs.
DW> EH>> What do you mean T-1? He's got a T-3! <g>
DW> JL> Another fine Al Gore invention, I am sure. <G>
DW>Did you catch that lisping buffoon on Russert yesterday?
DW>Worth the price of admission.
DW>--cut--
DW> Wait.. don't tell me - some liberal posted those
DW> messages using your name to make you look bad, right? I
DW> knew there had to be some explanation.
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DW>23 Jul 00 10:55, FRANK SCHEIDT wrote to DAVID WORRELL:
DW> FS> -=> Quoting David Worrell to Stan Hardegree <=-
DW> SH>> I hope my bossnode don't go tits up or that I get so far behind I
DW> SH>> have to delete mail (sotto voce: how hard is it to keep up with
DW> SH>> this paltry amount of reading?)
DW> DW>> I must have missed your similar question to Birkholz who
DW> DW>> is currently responding to messages from May.
DW> FS> Who is *she*? Perhaps a *third* name for Mimi Wotzername?
DW> FS> .
DW> You don't get out much, do you?
Drop it.
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Gary Braswell
SH>SH>>I read this morning that Gore is trying to bolster his
SH>SH>>support with organized labor. While he may be able
SH>SH>>successfully to court the leadership, I suspect that he has
SH>SH>>lost a good deal of the membership. Not sure what that's
SH>SH>>worth really, with union membership continuously waning.
SH> GB> The Teamsters and one other union were not on the Gore boat
SH> GB> yet and considering how Clinton turned his back on unions in
SH> GB> the past, Gore may inherit the enmity.
SH>The UAW is reportedly sitting this election out along with the Teamsters.
SH>Gore's support of NAFTA won him few union friends.
That was it. The UAW was the other union.
I am still waiting for that giant sucking sound Perot talked about with
NAFTA too.<g>
SH> GB> I am thinking unions may make a comeback, but not in
SH> GB> traditional fields. I am thinking they might come back in
SH> GB> the IT field. People are literally being worked to death,
SH> GB> being plucked back in the middle of vacation out of country
SH> GB> even.
SH>Sounds like you speak from experience. But this is nothing that the average
SH>Army second lieutenant doesn't experience.
I don't have it nowhere near as bad as others do, and its the same from
company to company. It seems to be getting a bigger and bigger issue
with IT professionals and companies are not being responsive. Just an
opinion/prediction of mine.
SH>SH>>SH>>More broadly speaking, all three networks and CNN have
SH>SH>>seen SH>>their newscast ratings tank. At the same time,
SH>SH>>websites like SH>>Free Republic, Newsmax and Lucianne.com
SH>SH>>have taken off (a SH>>concept known in journalism schools as
SH>SH>>"narrowcatch"). What SH>>are the implications of this trend?
SH>SH>> GB> People can get their news and entertainment when they
SH>SH>> want, GB> not when the networks want.
SH>SH>>Very liberating. And it's not just a matter of when, but
SH>SH>>what.
SH> GB> True, you can tailor make your news to themes you are
SH> GB> interested in. -!-
SH>For example, why read anything from AmPol or Molly Ivins when Chris Hitchens
SH>and Alexander Cockburn are out there on the left, writing lucidly.
True.
Our conservative rag here in Richmond, the Times Disgrace...er Times
Distort...er Times Dispatch has a writer/editor that gives me heartburn.
Despite my many letters and emails to him, not one response.
I am looking looking to meet him on the streets at some point and
verbally have it out with him.
BTW, I have never gotten one of your newpapers. Did you get my addy?
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David Worrell
24 Jul 00 22:01, Joe Lafoon wrote to David Worrell:
DW>> Or are you engaging in the common "conservative"
DW>> practice of shooting off at the mouth about subjects of
DW>> which you have little to no understanding?
JL> I know you claim an archive. I know you claimed to have deleted
JL> messages. What more do I need to draw the conclusion I did?
Perhaps, in your wisdom, you'll be able to tell me the
point of keeping unarchived messages around taking up
hard drive space when the same messages exist in
archived format.
What's that? You can't?
Didn't think so.
Ooops.
DW>> Once again, Joe - I do not use the same message system
DW>> you use. You can't look at what you use and determine
DW>> what I can or can not do here. Not without looking
DW>> stupid as all hell, that is.
JL> Looks like I touched a nerve. I think claiming an archive and claiming
JL> you delete messages is pretty stupid. Calling you on it doesn't make
JL> me look stupid, David.
I'm afraid it does, Joe. Sucks to be you.
David Worrell
24 Jul 00 22:01, Joe Lafoon wrote to David Worrell:
JL> While David Worrell gunned down Stan Hardegree, Joe charged his Tau
JL> Cannon...
SH>> I hope my bossnode don't go tits up or that I get so far behind I
SH>> have to delete mail (sotto voce: how hard is it to keep up with
SH>> this paltry amount of reading?)
DW>> I must have missed your similar question to Birkholz who
DW>> is currently responding to messages from May.
JL> The clear difference being, Allen has never used it as a lame excuse.
What did I use it to excuse? Missing Stan's one
"reasoned debate" post? His one post where he didn't
refer to someone he didn't like as a "lisping buffoon?"
Sorry, Gary's claim that such a post exists isn't enough
to justify the effort.
David Worrell
24 Jul 00 22:01, Joe Lafoon wrote to David Worrell:
DW>> Or are you engaging in the common "conservative"
Didn't think so.
Ooops.
GratisNet - Tulsa, OK
FIDOnet <-> USENET gateway
David Worrell
24 Jul 00 22:01, Joe Lafoon wrote to David Worrell:
JL> While David Worrell gunned down Stan Hardegree, Joe charged his Tau
JL> Cannon...
SH>> I hope my bossnode don't go tits up or that I get so far behind I
SH>> have to delete mail (sotto voce: how hard is it to keep up with
SH>> this paltry amount of reading?)
DW>> I must have missed your similar question to Birkholz who
DW>> is currently responding to messages from May.
JL> The clear difference being, Allen has never used it as a lame excuse.
What did I use it to excuse? Missing Stan's one
"reasoned debate" post? His one post where he didn't
refer to someone he didn't like as a "lisping buffoon?"
Sorry, Gary's claim that such a post exists isn't enough
to justify the effort.
GratisNet - Tulsa, OK
FIDOnet <-> USENET gateway
David Worrell
24 Jul 00 22:01, Joe Lafoon wrote to David Worrell:
DW>> Or are you engaging in the common "conservative"
Didn't think so.
Ooops.
GratisNet - Tulsa, OK
FIDOnet <-> USENET gateway
David Worrell
24 Jul 00 22:01, Joe Lafoon wrote to David Worrell:
JL> While David Worrell gunned down Stan Hardegree, Joe charged his Tau
JL> Cannon...
SH>> I hope my bossnode don't go tits up or that I get so far behind I
SH>> have to delete mail (sotto voce: how hard is it to keep up with
SH>> this paltry amount of reading?)
DW>> I must have missed your similar question to Birkholz who
DW>> is currently responding to messages from May.
JL> The clear difference being, Allen has never used it as a lame excuse.
What did I use it to excuse? Missing Stan's one
"reasoned debate" post? His one post where he didn't
refer to someone he didn't like as a "lisping buffoon?"
Sorry, Gary's claim that such a post exists isn't enough
to justify the effort.
GratisNet - Tulsa, OK
FIDOnet <-> USENET gateway
David Worrell
David Worrell
24 Jul 00 22:01, Joe Lafoon wrote to David Worrell:
DW>> Or are you engaging in the common "conservative"
Didn't think so.
Ooops.
GratisNet - Tulsa, OK
FIDOnet <-> USENET gateway
David Worrell
David Worrell
24 Jul 00 22:01, Joe Lafoon wrote to David Worrell:
JL> While David Worrell gunned down Stan Hardegree, Joe charged his Tau
JL> Cannon...
SH>> I hope my bossnode don't go tits up or that I get so far behind I
SH>> have to delete mail (sotto voce: how hard is it to keep up with
SH>> this paltry amount of reading?)
DW>> I must have missed your similar question to Birkholz who
DW>> is currently responding to messages from May.
JL> The clear difference being, Allen has never used it as a lame excuse.
What did I use it to excuse? Missing Stan's one
"reasoned debate" post? His one post where he didn't
refer to someone he didn't like as a "lisping buffoon?"
Sorry, Gary's claim that such a post exists isn't enough
to justify the effort.
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David Worrell
24 Jul 00 22:01, Joe Lafoon wrote to David Worrell:
DW>> Or are you engaging in the common "conservative"
Didn't think so.
Ooops.
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David Worrell
24 Jul 00 22:01, Joe Lafoon wrote to David Worrell:
JL> While David Worrell gunned down Stan Hardegree, Joe charged his Tau
JL> Cannon...
SH>> I hope my bossnode don't go tits up or that I get so far behind I
SH>> have to delete mail (sotto voce: how hard is it to keep up with
SH>> this paltry amount of reading?)
DW>> I must have missed your similar question to Birkholz who
DW>> is currently responding to messages from May.
JL> The clear difference being, Allen has never used it as a lame excuse.
What did I use it to excuse? Missing Stan's one
"reasoned debate" post? His one post where he didn't
refer to someone he didn't like as a "lisping buffoon?"
Sorry, Gary's claim that such a post exists isn't enough
to justify the effort.
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FRANK SCHEIDT
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SH>> I hope my bossnode don't go tits up or that I get so far behind I
SH>> have to delete mail (sotto voce: how hard is it to keep up with
SH>> this paltry amount of reading?)
DW>> I must have missed your similar question to Birkholz who
DW>> is currently responding to messages from May.
FS> Who is *she*? Perhaps a *third* name for Mimi Wotzername?
DW> You don't get out much, do you?
Much more than you seem aware of ... why do you ask? Is
there something about modern life you'd like to know??
Stan Hardegree
SH>>The UAW is reportedly sitting this election out along with
SH>>the Teamsters. Gore's support of NAFTA won him few union
SH>>friends.
GB> That was it. The UAW was the other union.
GB> I am still waiting for that giant sucking sound Perot talked
GB> about with NAFTA too.<g>
NAFTA is working. Just like President Bush said it would.
GB> BTW, I have never gotten one of your newpapers. Did you get
GB> my addy? ---
Send your snail mail address to my business email and I will add you to my
subsriber list. Free.
BTW -- did you see the picture of the Concorde going down? Chilling.
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Stan Hardegree
DW>>> I must have missed your similar question to Birkholz who
DW>>> is currently responding to messages from May.
JL>> The clear difference being, Allen has never used it as a
JL>> lame excuse.
DW> What did I use it to excuse? Missing Stan's one
DW> "reasoned debate" post? His one post where he didn't
One?
Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!
Stan Hardegree
EH>> How is that any different than right now? Just how much
EH>> more "informed" can one be by getting news from only one
EH>> source as opposed to several?
BS> Uh Ed, reread what I wrote. I was specifically decrying the
BS> fact that when one picks the news that they agree with, they
BS> will never get a sampling of views with which they disagree.
BS> IOW they will become even more narrow minded.
Hogwash.
Wish I hadn't even brought it up.
Gary Braswell
DW>24 Jul 00 22:01, Joe Lafoon wrote to David Worrell:
DW> JL> While David Worrell gunned down Stan Hardegree, Joe charged his Tau
DW> JL> Cannon...
DW> SH>> I hope my bossnode don't go tits up or that I get so far behind I
DW> SH>> have to delete mail (sotto voce: how hard is it to keep up with
DW> SH>> this paltry amount of reading?)
DW> DW>> I must have missed your similar question to Birkholz who
DW> DW>> is currently responding to messages from May.
DW> JL> The clear difference being, Allen has never used it as a lame excuse.
DW> What did I use it to excuse? Missing Stan's one
DW> "reasoned debate" post? His one post where he didn't
DW> refer to someone he didn't like as a "lisping buffoon?"
DW> Sorry, Gary's claim that such a post exists isn't enough
DW> to justify the effort.
He has made two.
He posted it again.
Since you seem to think I am lying, here is one of his, second reply
down the stream:
SH>SH>>again, Janet Reno will ignore that recommendation. Has the
SH>SH>>Justice Department been politicized into irrelevance? What's
SH>SH>>the point of having a task force at all if you uniformly
SH>SH>>disregard its recommendations?
SH> GB> There seems to be little doubt there should be a special
SH> GB> prosecutor in this case. Maybe the head of the Justice Dept.
SH> GB> should be appointed for life, free of political
SH> GB> considerations?
SH>I would rather that the AG be accountable to someone. In the event of a
SH>corrupt AG, who would prosecute and remove him under your plan? Perhaps the
SH>House Judiciary Committee could make a recommendation to be approved or
SH>rejected by the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Sounds good to me and they could police him as well.
SH>SH>>We are in the middle of a presidential election in which the
SH>SH>>vice president should probably be 20 points up in the polls.
SH>SH>>Yet, he now trails his opponent by double digits is some
SH>SH>>polls, and there is a credible third-party candidate who may
SH>SH>>take votes from him. Why is Gore behind? Maybe a better
SH>SH>>question is, why is Bush ahead?
SH> GB> Gore has little to no charisma and flip flops on a weekly
SH> GB> basis. Gore is also the victim of Clinton fatigue. I could
SH> GB> probably run against Gore and win.
SH>I read this morning that Gore is trying to bolster his support with
organized
SH>labor. While he may be able successfully to court the leadership, I suspect
SH>that he has lost a good deal of the membership. Not sure what that's worth
SH>really, with union membership continuously waning.
The Teamsters and one other union were not on the Gore boat yet and
considering how Clinton turned his back on unions in the past, Gore may
inherit the enmity.
I am thinking unions may make a comeback, but not in traditional fields.
I am thinking they might come back in the IT field. People are literally
being worked to death, being plucked back in the middle of vacation out
of country even.
SH>SH>>More broadly speaking, all three networks and CNN have seen
SH>SH>>their newscast ratings tank. At the same time, websites like
SH>SH>>Free Republic, Newsmax and Lucianne.com have taken off (a
SH>SH>>concept known in journalism schools as "narrowcatch"). What
SH>SH>>are the implications of this trend?
SH> GB> People can get their news and entertainment when they want,
SH> GB> not when the networks want.
SH>Very liberating. And it's not just a matter of when, but what.
True, you can tailor make your news to themes you are interested in.
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