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Major WINDOWS NT 4 problem!!! Boots only 1 at 100 times

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Ivo

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Aug 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/25/99
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Hi,

I have installed windows nt in all the possible ways,
tried every combination of hardware cards / irq assignments
and even tried card for card..

but when i boot windows nt, it comes not farther than the dots
that represent the partitions.. it just hangs..

sometimes, and that is not so often it boots on, and everything
works fine! can't find any problems..

is there a secret logfile in wich errors are reported? is this
a common problem, i've tried EVERYTHING also tried all the
different service packs and drivers for my hardware..

my hardware : Asus P2B-F, 64mb non-ecc, Adaptec 2940UW
Viper 550 AGP 16mb, SB Live value, Realtek 8029 Network card
and some pheripials on the scsi bus like - plexwriter/ultraplex and
a Quantum Viking II 4,3 GB harddrive..

please help!!!!!!
i'm desperate and afraid to turn off my computer!!!


wetboy

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Aug 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/25/99
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In comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc Ivo <adr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
: Hi,

: I have installed windows nt in all the possible ways,
: tried every combination of hardware cards / irq assignments
: and even tried card for card..

I'm not quite understanding precisely what you actually did, but
here's one thing you might try. The next time it hangs during boot,
wait for up to half a hour to see whether it *eventually* boots.
Feel free to e-mail me with the results -- I may or may not get
back to this thread.

-- Wetboy

Ivo

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Aug 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/25/99
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I've already tried to wait hours.. but it just hangs..

and actually just after the blue screen appears
when the dots are ready.. so actually just when it should
init the screen like 800x600

it just stops.. what does windows do a this moment,
cause windows 98 works perfectly!!!

and if i don't change a thing it sometimes does work
so what could be it?!?! a random bug??

MarkN

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Aug 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/25/99
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>sometimes, and that is not so often it boots on, and everything
>works fine! can't find any problems..

When it does boot what do the error logs show???

M Nicholas
MCP +I
MCSE

Al Dykes

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Aug 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/25/99
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(In no particular order)

Look in the event log. NT sometimes puts usefull
info there.

Reset all the memory and cable connections if you have not already
done so.

It might be a marginal power supply. I've seen
strange startup problems that were cleared up by a PS swap.

Try swapping the memory with a stable machine.

Look at the clock and timing settings on the mobo. Something
could be set wrong or you could slow down the timing to see
if things clear up.

Plug an IDE disk into the machine, do a quick NT installation
and see if that is solid. If so then you have as scsi problem.

Get a copy of a hardware package like QAPlus (which boots
from DOS) and run it to see if it shakes out the problem. This
is my last choice since diagnostic software does not have a
great track record in finding HW problems.

Good luck.

In article <7q17a2$2u20$1...@thor.wirehub.nl>, Ivo <adr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have installed windows nt in all the possible ways,
>tried every combination of hardware cards / irq assignments
>and even tried card for card..
>

>but when i boot windows nt, it comes not farther than the dots
>that represent the partitions.. it just hangs..
>

>sometimes, and that is not so often it boots on, and everything
>works fine! can't find any problems..
>

>is there a secret logfile in wich errors are reported? is this
>a common problem, i've tried EVERYTHING also tried all the
>different service packs and drivers for my hardware..
>
>my hardware : Asus P2B-F, 64mb non-ecc, Adaptec 2940UW
>Viper 550 AGP 16mb, SB Live value, Realtek 8029 Network card
>and some pheripials on the scsi bus like - plexwriter/ultraplex and
>a Quantum Viking II 4,3 GB harddrive..
>
>please help!!!!!!
>i'm desperate and afraid to turn off my computer!!!
>

--
Al Dykes
-----------
ady...@panix.com


James C. Owens

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Aug 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/25/99
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On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:58:57 +0200, "Ivo" <adr...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I have installed windows nt in all the possible ways,
>tried every combination of hardware cards / irq assignments
>and even tried card for card..
>
>but when i boot windows nt, it comes not farther than the dots
>that represent the partitions.. it just hangs..
>
>sometimes, and that is not so often it boots on, and everything
>works fine! can't find any problems..
>
>is there a secret logfile in wich errors are reported? is this
>a common problem, i've tried EVERYTHING also tried all the
>different service packs and drivers for my hardware..
>
>my hardware : Asus P2B-F, 64mb non-ecc, Adaptec 2940UW
>Viper 550 AGP 16mb, SB Live value, Realtek 8029 Network card
>and some pheripials on the scsi bus like - plexwriter/ultraplex and
>a Quantum Viking II 4,3 GB harddrive..
>
>please help!!!!!!
>i'm desperate and afraid to turn off my computer!!!
>
>

Try removing one (1) PCI card at a time and attempt to boot NT
(obviously, you can't due this with your display card or SCSI card,
since you are have a SCSI boot drive). Also try switching around your
PCI cards to different slots. I have seen NT stall just like this
because of PCI interrupt sharing. Usually PCI interrupt sharing works
under NT, but, there are some combinations that just don't work.

R/

James C. Owens
james...@earthlink.net
owe...@bellatlantic.net
WinNT 4.0 Server (Bld 1381: SP 5) Super P6DBU 2xPII 400 MHz 256 MB RAM
SuSE Linux 6.1 (kernel 2.2.7) Tyan S1563D 2xP55C 166 MHz 192 MB RAM

End User

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Aug 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/25/99
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If you are using any of these cards in Plug-n-Play mode this may occurr. Be
sure that you have turned off any PnP features in the BIOS, and that the
devices have independent IRQ and address spaces given to them.

This, or removing the device cards one by one (as suggested by another
reader in this thread) should help you to resolve the problem.

Hth,
Todd

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wetboy

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Aug 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/25/99
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In comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc Ivo <adr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
: Hi,

: I have installed windows nt in all the possible ways,
: tried every combination of hardware cards / irq assignments
: and even tried card for card..

I assume "tried card for card" means you *physically removed*
various cards from your computer. If not, try removing cards -
particularly the SoundBlaster - from your computer, and
rebooting.

Another thought occurred to me as I was reading another
responder's post regarding SCSI: Make sure you don't have
a lot of SCSI cable hanging loose after your last SCSI
device.

-- Wetboy

Chris Wilkinson

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Aug 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/25/99
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In article <7q17a2$2u20$1...@thor.wirehub.nl>, Ivo <adr...@hotmail.com>
writes

>I have installed windows nt in all the possible ways,
>tried every combination of hardware cards / irq assignments
>and even tried card for card..
>
>but when i boot windows nt, it comes not farther than the dots
>that represent the partitions.. it just hangs..

I had this problem with an incompatible PCMCIA slot and card. Works
fine on W98 but not NTWorkstation. I suggest you remove everything bar
the bare essentials. Certainly remove the Adaptec 2940UW unless you
need it for booting in which case remove everything bar the boot hard
drive.

If all works well then progressively install the peripherals until
everything works or something fails. A long hard job - I don't envy
you.

If the machine still hangs without all your add ons then suspect the
BIOS has got changed or motherboard / memory problems.

CHRIS
--
Chris Wilkinson

DualIP

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Aug 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/26/99
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On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:58:57 +0200, "Ivo" <adr...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>


>I have installed windows nt in all the possible ways,
>tried every combination of hardware cards / irq assignments
>and even tried card for card..

What's the brand of CPU ?
For Non-Intel , try disabling it's cache in the BIOS settings

DualIP

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