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victor metelitsa

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Apr 28, 2005, 4:39:35 AM4/28/05
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Instantiations to Take Lead on Smalltalk
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VisualAge Smalltalk Technology Transitions to Instantiations Under New
Relationship. Instantiations to Deliver New VA Smalltalk 7.0 Product in
Third Quarter.

PORTLAND, Ore. - April 27, 2005 -Instantiations, Inc., a leading
provider of advanced software development solutions, announced today
that it has formed a new relationship with IBM under which
Instantiations assumes responsibility for ongoing development of the
VisualAge╝ Smalltalk technology base. Instantiations will develop,
market and support a new VisualAge-compatible version of Smalltalk
called VA SmalltalkT. Initially, Instantiations plans to enhance the
VisualAge Smalltalk technology with many improvements including a modern
user interface provided by its VA Assist product, new controls, and a
preview of new "Migration Readiness" capabilities from Synchrony
Systems' Software Modernization Technology - SMT. Longer range technical
plans are under development.

The new agreement is a part of the larger IBM Smalltalk Transition
Strategy and Roadmap that ensures the business needs and requirements of
existing VisualAge Smalltalk customers continue to be satisfied.

"IBM is pleased to provide VisualAge Smalltalk customers with an option
to continue exploiting and receiving business value from their
investments in Smalltalk technology," said Yvonne M. Perkins, Vice
President Enterprise Platform Software, IBM Software. "This is part of
IBM's VisualAge Smalltalk Transition Strategy and Roadmap which enable
customers to evolve their critical Smalltalk-based systems, in an
incremental and staged fashion, towards standards-based,
service-oriented architectures which characterize the successful,
competitive On Demand enterprises of the new millennium."

"We've used Instantiations Smalltalk products for years and are
delighted that IBM has partnered with them to carry Smalltalk forward,"
said Ronald D. Painter, chief scientist, CACI, Inc. "VA Smalltalk will
allow our simulation developments including JWARS (Joint Warfare System)
to continue without interruption."

"We are honored that IBM has chosen Instantiations to take a leadership
role in evolving Smalltalk," said Instantiations' Eric Clayberg, Sr.
Vice President and Smalltalk Business Unit General Manager. "We
recognize that there are many customers who require a modern development
environment and long term support for their business critical Smalltalk
based applications. Many of IBM's existing Smalltalk customers are also
Instantiations' customers, so this new relationship should be a very
smooth transition for them."

Pricing and Availability

VA Smalltalk 7.0 will be available in the third quarter of this year.
Customers who wish to move to VA Smalltalk more quickly may participate
in Instantiations' Early Availability Program. The price per developer
for a new license of VA Smalltalk will be $6,995 and includes one year
of support, maintenance, and new releases. IBM customers with current
VisualAge Smalltalk support agreements can "upgrade" to Instantiations'
VA Smalltalk Version 7.0 for $1,495. Customers who own unsupported
copies of any VisualAge Smalltalk product can upgrade to VA Smalltalk
for $1,995. Upgrades from competitive Smalltalk products will also be
available for $1,995. For additional information and pricing please
contact our sales department at (800) 808-3737 or by email at
va...@instantiations.com. More information can be found on the company's
web site at www.instantiations.com/vast.

About Instantiations

Instantiations, Inc. provides leading edge software products, services
and technologies for Java and Smalltalk. Through our industry
partnership with IBM, Instantiations offers professional development
environments and software products that integrate seamlessly with the
latest development platforms. Instantiations is a member of the Eclipse
Foundation and offers a line of products for Eclipse, IBM Rational╝ and
WebSphere╝ Studio. Based in Portland, Ore., Instantiations was founded
in 1997 by a team of internationally recognized pioneers in the field of
component software technology. Instantiations can be reached at (800)
808-3737. More information may be found at www.instantiations.com.

# # #

VA Smalltalk is a trademark of Instantiations, Inc. VisualAge, WebSphere
and Rational are registered trademarks of IBM Corporation. SMT is a
trademark of Synchrony Systems. Java is a trademark of Sun Microsystems.
All other trademarks are the properties of their respective companies.

Media Contact:
Mark Johnson
Instantiations, Inc.
503-598-4909


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Andrei N. Sobchuck

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Apr 28, 2005, 6:20:55 AM4/28/05
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vm> Instantiations to Take Lead on Smalltalk

Король умер. Да здравствует король!

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victor metelitsa

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Apr 28, 2005, 6:59:00 AM4/28/05
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Andrei N. Sobchuck пишет:

> victor metelitsa <v...@cssc.tat.ru> wrote:
> vm> Instantiations to Take Lead on Smalltalk
>
> Король умер. Да здравствует король!
>

NC-версии, судя по всему, теперь не будет. И хрен теперь украдешь -
Instantiations к своей property относится с бОльшим трепетом, чем IBM.
Roadmap тоже, мягко говоря, совсем не впечатляет. И подумать только -
берем старые-старые VAST 6 и VA Assist 6, связываем вместе... и
получается VAST 7, да и то не сразу, а в третьем квартале. Неясна мне и
судьба серверной части (SST)...

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victor metelitsa

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Apr 28, 2005, 7:27:25 AM4/28/05
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victor metelitsa пишет:

> Andrei N. Sobchuck пишет:
>
>> victor metelitsa <v...@cssc.tat.ru> wrote:
>> vm> Instantiations to Take Lead on Smalltalk
>>
>> Король умер. Да здравствует король!
>>
>
> NC-версии, судя по всему, теперь не будет. И хрен теперь украдешь -
> Instantiations к своей property относится с бОльшим трепетом, чем IBM.
> Roadmap тоже, мягко говоря, совсем не впечатляет. И подумать только -
> берем старые-старые VAST 6 и VA Assist 6, связываем вместе... и
> получается VAST 7, да и то не сразу, а в третьем квартале. Неясна мне и
> судьба серверной части (SST)...

Ну, кроме VA Assist, привязано кое-что еще. Упоминание 3-его квартала в
одном месте и лета - в другом, очевидно, означает июль или август.
Лично я хотел бы open source, но у Эрика свои планы ;-). Ну и ладно, я
перешел на VW уже наполовину ;-), а когда будет Pollock... посмотрим...

Andrei N. Sobchuck

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Apr 28, 2005, 8:02:46 AM4/28/05
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victor metelitsa <v...@cssc.tat.ru> wrote:
vm> Лично я хотел бы open source, но у Эрика свои планы ;-). Ну и ладно, я
vm> перешел на VW уже наполовину ;-), а когда будет Pollock... посмотрим...

:) http://tinyurl.com/ceesc

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victor metelitsa

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Apr 29, 2005, 2:15:58 AM4/29/05
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Вот это мне нравится:

"Yanni Chiu" <ya...@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:4271A30B...@rogers.com...

>>>>
>>>> We are also still going to offer the same free, non-time-bombed eval
>>>> version
>>>> that IBM currently offers.
>
>>
>> Excellent news. Is an EAP version available for eval?


It will be shortly. The initial EAP version won't be integrated yet, so it
will require a number of downloads (from the same page).


>>>> We will also make the product available free of charge to qualified
>>>> partners
>>>> and ISVs.
>
>>
>> More excellent news (I'd already read it on your site).
>> How does one qualify?


For the time being, send me an e-mail and state your case. ;-)

>> One more thing that would put VAST back on my radar as a
>> platform worth targeting is the ability to support Seaside.


If someone wanted to port Seaside to VAST, that would certainly qualify
them
for a free license. ;-)

We would like to see Seaside on VAST as well (and I do understand that VAST
does present some challenges given the way Seaside is architected).

-Eric Clayberg
Sr. Vice President of Product Development
Instantiations, Inc.
mailto:clay...@instantiations.com
http://www.instantiations.com/vast


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victor metelitsa

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Apr 29, 2005, 2:26:06 AM4/29/05
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Это уже лучше:

"G.S. Link" <gsl...@one.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:d4qqfl$2llm$1...@news.boulder.ibm.com...

>> What about those who rent their license from IBM?

Rent?

>> Is this new version available for license on the Software Mall

No, it will not be available from the Software Mall as it will not be an
IBM branded product.

Given that VAST has had a free, non-time-bombed eval version available
for some time, it's not clear that the Software Mall version gets you
anything significant. You are expressly prohibited from using Software
Mall licenses for production work anyway...

http://www.developer.ibm.com/welcome/guide/valueqa.html#B2-6

We are also still going to offer the same free, non-time-bombed eval
version that IBM currently offers.

>> have our license costs just gone way up?

I don't see why they would. Our list prices are less than IBM's (and in
some cases like license reinstatement, dramatically less)...

http://www.instantiations.com/VAST/pricing.htm

That is even more the case when you consider the value of the
Instantiations products that we will be bundling in.

We will also make the product available free of charge to qualified
partners and ISVs.

-Eric Clayberg


Sr. Vice President of Product Development
Instantiations, Inc.
mailto:clay...@instantiations.com
http://www.instantiations.com/vast


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victor metelitsa

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Apr 29, 2005, 3:05:24 AM4/29/05
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victor metelitsa пишет:

> Это уже лучше:
>
> "G.S. Link" <gsl...@one.nospam.net> wrote in message

Чертов news.talk.ru все время глючит. На этот раз он "просто" принял
второе письмо раньше первого.

Нет ли "в пределах досягаемости" более приличного ньюссервера?

Andrei N. Sobchuck

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Apr 29, 2005, 3:25:47 AM4/29/05
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victor metelitsa <v...@cssc.tat.ru> wrote:
vm> получается VAST 7, да и то не сразу, а в третьем квартале. Неясна мне и

между VAST 7 и третим кварталом будет еще IBM VAST 6.0.3

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Apr 29, 2005, 3:30:25 AM4/29/05
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victor metelitsa <v...@cssc.tat.ru> wrote:
vm> Чертов news.talk.ru все время глючит. На этот раз он "просто" принял
vm> второе письмо раньше первого.

vm> Нет ли "в пределах досягаемости" более приличного ньюссервера?

попробуй news2.fido7.ru news3.fido7.ru

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