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Zone 2: readers.
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Dmitry Baronov 2:5020/180 Moscow, Russia RU Moderator
Alexandr Vinogradov 2:5020/974 Moscow, Russia Mo.FeeLee home
Shura Pavlov 2:5020/79.23 Moscow region, -
Russia
Alexander V. Lifanov 2:5020/701.30 Moscow, Russia -
Alex Absalamov 2:5020/996.5 Moscow, Russia -
Dmitry Batsuro 2:5020/720.10 Moscow, Russia -
Konstantin Yushin 2:5020/1101.27 Zhukovsky, Russia MSU student
Shurick Popov 2:5020/609.10 Moscow, Russia
Andrew Boyarintsev 2:5020/448.32 Moscow, Russia nOT!/LkR
Dmitri Tretyakov 2:5020/706.14 Moscow, Russia student of
FSB academy
Sergey Chernov 2:5020/856.3 Moscow, Russia -
Eugene Kadushin 2:5020/889 Moscow, Russia -
Alex Baydin 2:5020/1320 Moscow, Russia -
Sergey Stepanoff 2:5020/1261 Moscow, Russia ppgvbsd :)
Grisha Nikonov 2:5020/1401 Moscow, Russia Welcome to
LaserNet via
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Dmitry Rudnev 2:5020/1042 Moscow, Russia
Steve John Samond 2:5024/11 Vladimir, Russia net5024 hub
Roman Markovtsev 2:5045/45.18 Vladivostok, Russia -
Almaz Sharipov 2:5049/20.8 Tatarstan All-in-one
Artem Tcherepanov 2:5050/28 Izhevsk, Russia -
Igor Semyonov 2:5051/3.46 Medical doctor
Denis Shaposhnikov 2:5055/68 Volgograd, Russia -
Serge Saptsin 2:5080/80.14 Ekaterinburg, Russia -
serge vikulov 2:5080/5 Ekaterinburg, Russia s...@yava.ru
Eugenij Zolotov 2:5080/84.5 Ekaterinburg, Russia comp. music
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Total: 26
Zone 1: readers.
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Gary Baumgartner 1:170/503 Tulsa, Oklahoma, USA US Moderator
Steve Quarrella 1:124/9005 Rowlett, Texas, USA WinNT LAN
administrator
Lynn Beasley 1:170/550 Talala, Oklahoma, USA Housewife
MOM!!! :>
Local Moderator
SysOp
Victor Ncbee 1:170/503 Tulsa, Oklahoma, USA
Patrice Boucher 1:167/323 Montreal, Quebec, CDN SysOp NQ/TG BBS
Sheila Crane 1:289/86 Columbia, Missouri, USA -
John Crane 1:289/86 Columbia, Missouri, USA Sysop
Jon Rutledge(jon.ru...@bbs.bbsworld.com) USA
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Total: 8
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still more russians in the echo.. whew. -:)
Good. <The...@usa.net> [Team GMD]
... ANARCHY RULES & SALES O.K.!!! O.K. = O.B.
Gary Baumgartner
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> Zone 2: readers.
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> € Name €€€€€€€€€€€€€€€ Address €€€€€€€€€ Location
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> Total: 8
not for long!!!! Americans gonna catch up!!!!
Roger Etheredge
On Nov 27 00:14 97, Alexandr Vinogradov of 2:5020/974 wrote:
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AV> Zone 2: readers.
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AV> Dmitry Baronov 2:5020/180 Moscow, Russia RU
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AV> Total: 26
AV> Zone 1: readers.
AV> € Name €€€€€€€€€€€€€€€ Address €€€€€€€€€ Location €€€€€€€€€€€€€€ Special
AV> Gary Baumgartner 1:170/503 Tulsa, Oklahoma, USA US
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I guess I'm still not making it through...Wonder why???
Roger
Alexandr Vinogradov
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Gary Baumgartner [1:170/503@fidonet] wrote to Alexandr Vinogradov:
>> Total: 26
>> Total: 8
>> still more russians in the echo.. whew. -:)
GB> not for long!!!! Americans gonna catch up!!!!
i hope so. it's not fun to talk to russians.. for russians of course!
Alexandr Vinogradov
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Roger Etheredge [1:393/1@fidonet] wrote to Alexandr Vinogradov:
AV>> € Name €€€€€€€€€€€€€€€ Address €€€€€€€€€ Location €€€€€€€€€€€€€€
AV>> Special Dmitry Baronov 2:5020/180 Moscow, Russia
AV>> RU
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AV>> € Name €€€€€€€€€€€€€€€ Address €€€€€€€€€ Location €€€€€€€€€€€€€€
AV>> Special Gary Baumgartner 1:170/503 Tulsa, Oklahoma,
AV>> USA US
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RE> I guess I'm still not making it through...Wonder why???
really! -;)
Gary Baumgartner
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> Baumgartner [1:170/503@fidonet] wrote to Alexandr Vinogradov:
> >> Total: 26 Total: 8 still more russians in the echo.. whew. -:)
> GB> not for long!!!! Americans gonna catch up!!!!
> i hope so. it's not fun to talk to russians.. for russians of course!
its 26 to 9 or 10!!! gotta count then big boys! - Texas is calling ya!
Roger Etheredge
On Nov 28 16:08 97, Alexandr Vinogradov of 2:5020/974 wrote:
RE>> I guess I'm still not making it through...Wonder why???
AV> really! -;)
Alexandr;
Hmmmmm, in and out. I think I'm not and I am, I think I am and I'm
not...quite the enigma huh???
Roger
Lee Ann Hamm
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Hi Alexandr
Could you add me to the list in Zone 1? I'd appreciate it. :-)
Name: Lee Ann Hamm
Address: I don't know about Fidonet addresses, but I telnet to BBS
World from Cajun Clickers BBS.
Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana, USA
Special: Computer lover and avid crocheter
Thanks much. I think "spaceeba" is thanks in Russian? I tried to teach
myself Russian a while back. :-)
<grin>Lee Ann Hamm / E-mail Addy: lee.an...@clickers.org</grin>
<wink>http://www.premier.net/~lhamm</wink>
Alexandr Vinogradov
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Roger Etheredge [1:393/1@fidonet] wrote to Alexandr Vinogradov:
RE> Alexandr;
RE> Hmmmmm, in and out. I think I'm not and I am, I think I am
RE> and
RE> I'm not...quite the enigma huh???
hehe.. two beer on not two beer - shakesbeer.
Roger Etheredge
On Nov 30 10:37 97, Alexandr Vinogradov of 2:5020/974 wrote:
AV> hehe.. two beer on not two beer - shakesbeer.
Alexandr;
HA, I see you have a sense of humor...good. I got a good laugh on
this one.
Roger
Alexandr Vinogradov
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Roger Etheredge [1:393/1@fidonet] wrote to Alexandr Vinogradov:
AV>> hehe.. two beer on not two beer - shakesbeer.
RE> Alexandr;
RE> HA, I see you have a sense of humor...good. I got a good
RE> laugh on this one.
i bet i have one. i love beer too -:)
Roger Etheredge
On Dec 01 19:19 97, Alexandr Vinogradov of 2:5020/974 wrote:
RE>> HA, I see you have a sense of humor...good. I got a good laugh on this
RE>> one.
AV> i bet i have one. i love beer too -:)
Alexandr;
What kind beer??? Russian. or is it an import??? What is the alcohol
content??? Do you ever think about brewing your own???
Roger
Alexandr Vinogradov
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> IMPORTANT NOTICE. ppl from zone 2, i would appreciate it if you send
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> that not all of you, listed here, are phisically in the echo. If you
> don't give response till the new year i'll have to remove you from the
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Zone 2: readers.
€ Name €€€€€€€€€€€€€€€ Address €€€€€€€€€ Location €€€€€€€€€€€€€€ Special €€€€€€
Dmitry Baronov 2:5020/180 Moscow, Russia RU Moderator
Alexandr Vinogradov 2:5020/974 Moscow, Russia Mo.FeeLee home
Shura Pavlov 2:5020/79.23 Moscow region, -
Russia
Alexander V. Lifanov 2:5020/701.30 Moscow, Russia -
Alex Absalamov 2:5020/996.5 Moscow, Russia -
Dmitry Batsuro 2:5020/720.10 Moscow, Russia -
Konstantin Yushin 2:5020/1101.27 Zhukovsky, Russia MSU student
Shurick Popov 2:5020/609.10 Moscow, Russia
Andrew Boyarintsev 2:5020/448.32 Moscow, Russia nOT!/LkR
Dmitri Tretyakov 2:5020/706.14 Moscow, Russia student of
FSB academy
Sergey Chernov 2:5020/856.3 Moscow, Russia -
Eugene Kadushin 2:5020/889 Moscow, Russia -
Alex Baydin 2:5020/1320 Moscow, Russia -
Sergey Stepanoff 2:5020/1261 Moscow, Russia ppgvbsd :)
Grisha Nikonov 2:5020/1401 Moscow, Russia Welcome to
LaserNet via
BinkD
Dmitry Rudnev 2:5020/1042 Moscow, Russia -
Mike Novikoff 2:5020/251.73 Moscow, Russia -
Sergey Glotov 2:5023/12.35 Kaluga, Russia Quake player
Steve John Samond 2:5024/11 Vladimir, Russia net5024 hub
Roman Markovtsev 2:5045/45.18 Vladivostok, Russia -
Almaz Sharipov 2:5049/20.8 Tatarstan All-in-one
Artem Tcherepanov 2:5050/28 Izhevsk, Russia -
Igor Semyonov 2:5051/3.46 Medical doctor
Denis Shaposhnikov 2:5055/68 Volgograd, Russia -
Serge Saptsin 2:5080/80.14 Ekaterinburg, Russia -
serge vikulov 2:5080/5 Ekaterinburg, Russia s...@yava.ru
Eugenij Zolotov 2:5080/84.5 Ekaterinburg, Russia comp. music
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Total: 28
Zone 1: readers.
€ Name €€€€€€€€€€€€€€€ Address €€€€€€€€€ Location €€€€€€€€€€€€€€ Special €€€€€€
Gary Baumgartner 1:170/503 Tulsa, Oklahoma, USA US Moderator
Steve Quarrella 1:124/9005 Rowlett, Texas, USA WinNT LAN
administrator
Lynn Beasley 1:170/550 Talala, Oklahoma, USA Housewife
MOM!!! :>
Local Moderator
SysOp
Victor Ncbee 1:170/503 Tulsa, Oklahoma, USA
Patrice Boucher 1:167/323 Montreal, Quebec, CDN SysOp NQ/TG BBS
Sheila Crane 1:289/86 Columbia, Missouri, USA -
John Crane 1:289/86 Columbia, Missouri, USA Sysop
Jon Rutledge(jon.ru...@bbs.bbsworld.com) USA
Lee Ann Hamm(lee.an...@clickers.org) Louisiana, USA Comp. lover
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Alexandr Vinogradov
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Roger Etheredge [1:393/1@fidonet] wrote to Alexandr Vinogradov:
AV>> i bet i have one. i love beer too -:)
RE> What kind beer??? Russian. or is it an import??? What is the
RE> alcohol content??? Do you ever think about brewing your own???
well... I like almost all kinds of beer except dark ones. The only dark one
i like is guinnes. I like 'BALTIKA' - it's a russian beer, and Miller Magnum -
that is defenitely not, hehe. Alcohol content shouldn't be more than 7.2% i
think.
Roger Etheredge
On Dec 02 22:00 97, Alexandr Vinogradov of 2:5020/974 wrote:
AV> well... I like almost all kinds of beer except dark ones. The only dark
AV> one i like is guinnes. I like 'BALTIKA' - it's a russian beer, and Miller
AV> Magnum - that is defenitely not, hehe. Alcohol content shouldn't be more
AV> than 7.2% i think.
Dark beer and pizza...Now them's good scarfin's...I'm not a beer
drinker...But I don't think 7.2% is the content here in the states...In fact I
think its a lot less...I will drink a 151 Rum and Coke before I'll drink
anything else.
Roger
Lee Ann Hamm
>Patrice Boucher 1:167/323 Montreal, Quebec, CDN SysOp NQ/TG
>John Crane 1:289/86 Columbia, Missouri, USA Sysop
>Jon Rutledge(jon.ru...@bbs.bbsworld.com) USA
>Lee Ann Hamm(lee.an...@clickers.org) Louisiana, USA Comp. lover
Hi Alexandr,
Thanks for adding my name :-) Would it be too much trouble to make it
Baton Rouge, LA and delete the "USA"?
Thanks very much. :-)
Alexandr Vinogradov
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Roger Etheredge [1:393/1@fidonet] wrote to Alexandr Vinogradov:
RE> Dark beer and pizza...Now them's good scarfin's...I'm not a
RE> beer drinker...But I don't think 7.2% is the content here in the
RE> states...In fact I think its a lot less...I will drink a 151 Rum and
RE> Coke before I'll drink anything else.
yup. 7.2 is a strong beer. :) Isn't rum and coke stronger?
Sergey Stepanoff
Hi, Roger!
AV>> i bet i have one. i love beer too -:)
RE> Alexandr;
RE> What kind beer??? Russian. or is it an import??? What is the
RE> alcohol content??? Do you ever think about brewing your own???
In Moscow is very popular russian "Baltika" (4..8% of alcohol) and import
"Miller", "Grolsch", "Budweiser", "Staropramen", "Holsten", "Heineken",
"Amsterdam", "Bavaria" and other (4..12% of alcohol).
Sergey [Team GMD]/[Team religion MD]
Roger Etheredge
On Dec 04 06:31 97, Alexandr Vinogradov of 2:5020/974 wrote:
RE>> Dark beer and pizza...Now them's good scarfin's...I'm not a
RE>> beer drinker...But I don't think 7.2% is the content here in the
RE>> states...In fact I think its a lot less...I will drink a 151 Rum and
RE>> Coke before I'll drink anything else.
AV> yup. 7.2 is a strong beer. :) Isn't rum and coke stronger?
Sure 'nuff. But that taste is what I crave. Not beer, nor coke, but the
151% Rum.
Roger
Roger Etheredge
On Dec 04 00:54 97, Sergey Stepanoff of 2:5020/1261 wrote:
RE>> What kind beer??? Russian. or is it an import??? What is the
RE>> alcohol content??? Do you ever think about brewing your own???
SS> In Moscow is very popular russian "Baltika" (4..8% of alcohol) and import
SS> "Miller", "Grolsch", "Budweiser", "Staropramen", "Holsten", "Heineken",
SS> "Amsterdam", "Bavaria" and other (4..12% of alcohol).
Sergey;
The US beer manufactures have alrady moved into Russia...Boy they don't
waste any time...Along with Germany, Holland, and the others. Looks like you've
got alot to choose from.
Over here some of the investigative television reports about Russians
Say that ya'll have a problem with too many of your people drinking. I usually
like to hear things straight from the original source...So, is there a problem
over there with way to many people drinking way to much alcohol???
If it's true then I guess that would explain why the beer companies
moved so fast.
Roger
Alexandr Vinogradov
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Roger Etheredge [1:393/1@fidonet] wrote to Alexandr Vinogradov:
AV>> yup. 7.2 is a strong beer. :) Isn't rum and coke stronger?
RE> Sure 'nuff. But that taste is what I crave. Not beer, nor coke,
RE> but the 151% Rum.
151% Rum? How's that?
Alexey Zimin
Hello Roger!
Thursday December 04 1997 07:17, Roger Etheredge wrote to Sergey Stepanoff:
RE> Over here some of the investigative television reports about
RE> Russians Say that ya'll have a problem with too many of your people
RE> drinking. I usually like to hear things straight from the original
RE> source...So, is there a problem over there with way to many people
RE> drinking way to much alcohol???
yeah, thats a real problem, national problem. during all it history russia was
and still remain hard drinking country, but now things getting even worse due
difficult situation in our contry. Almost all categories of people drink
enormous amounts of vodka, buisnessman for their victories and to release
stress, homeless to get out from their real awful life, other - to relax. Here
is a sad joke: all nations drink to have fun, but russians to get drunk.
RE> If it's true then I guess that would explain why the beer
RE> companies moved so fast.
not only beer, first it were companies which produce food/bevÅrage/medicine
products. Any product which you can import and sell in short amount of time.
Now electronic/car etc companies join them
Sincerely yours, Alexey.
Eugenij Zolotov
AV>> If you don't give response till the new year i'll have to remove you
AV>> from the list.
AV>
I'm, as before, here ! =)
Sincerely yours, Eugenij Zolotov.
Grisha Nikonov
Hi, Roger, how're you ?!
04 Dec 97, Roger Etheredge ---> Sergey Stepanoff:
RE> Over here some of the investigative television reports about
RE> Russians Say that ya'll have a problem with too many of your people
RE> drinking. I usually like to hear things straight from the original
RE> source...So, is there a problem over there with way to many people
RE> drinking way to much alcohol???
That's right. It's a problem - unfortunately it's a real problem, a
problem, that came from ancient times. Russian people realy can (and they do)
drink much more, than foreigners, this problem is genetic to some extent ;(, of
course with foreign companies moved here, young people, wanting to have stable
future, try to keep from drinking, so do I, not only because I want to get a
good job, but because I can see a dramaticaly great number of lives, broken
because of such a... habbit. It's unlikely other countries, our people is used
to drink forgetting all the limits and it's awful. I can continue, but I'd
rather conseal my feelings, it's getting to emotional, sorry.
[Team LASER.USA 4ever] [Team LaserNet] WBR, Grisha.
... ... LYF SUX
Sergey Stepanoff
Hi, Roger!
RE> Over here some of the investigative television reports about
RE> Russians Say that ya'll have a problem with too many of your people
RE> drinking. I usually like to hear things straight from the original
RE> source...So, is there a problem over there with way to many people drinking
RE> way to much alcohol???
No. Americans have a problem with too many of your people is not drinking :-)
:-) :-) You are right, but it not the big problem.
Yesterday my friends-fidonetters is meet. I drink ~3 liters of beer and
gin-tonic, and after that... write little program on the Pascal for my job ;-)
Big Stomach is not FROM beer, big stomach is FOR beer! ;-)
RE> If it's true then I guess that would explain why the beer
RE> companies moved so fast.
Many sorts of american beer selling in Russia long ago.
But... Prices is big. For example, russian beer "Baltika" or "Ochakovo"
i can buy beyond 4000-6000 roubles (1$=6000 roubles), and import beer
beyond 5000-25000 (about 0.5 liter). Unfortunately, after 6 years of
krisis, Russia-no rich country. :-( Only in 1997 condition of our economic is
beginning improve.
After beginning economical reforms in Russia quality of Russian beer is
improved.
Oleg Polataiko
Hail you, Roger!
04 1997 07:16, Roger Etheredge wrote to Sergey Stepanoff:
RE> Over here some of the investigative television reports about
RE> Russians Say that ya'll have a problem with too many of your people
RE> drinking. I usually like to hear things straight from the original
RE> source...So, is there a problem over there with way to many people
RE> drinking way to much alcohol???
No, it is not a problem of those who drink, but of those who near them. By
the way, true Russian so called "drinkers" dont waste their time for drinking
such baby-drink as beer. They mostly drink vodka, that is 40% alcohol. Sometimes
they mix it with beer. They get drank and sing songs, beat each other, and do
things like that, having fun...
Such things happen to the people who have no sense in their lifes...
BTW what is the average thing for Americans, that makes life worth to live?
Bye
Roger Etheredge
On Dec 06 11:57 97, Alexey Zimin of 2:5020/488.19 wrote:
AZ> yeah, thats a real problem, national problem. during all it history russia
AZ> was and still remain hard drinking country, but now things getting even
AZ> worse due difficult situation in our contry. Almost all categories of
AZ> people drink enormous amounts of vodka, buisnessman for their victories
AZ> and to release stress, homeless to get out from their real awful life,
AZ> other - to relax. Here is a sad joke: all nations drink to have fun, but
AZ> russians to get drunk.
If it matters Alexey, I think alcohol is a problem in most places. Over
here they have a program call M.A.D.D. (Mothers Against Drunk Drivers). After so
many of our teenagers were being killed in auto accidents, a group of mothers
decided to do something about it.
Of course to me (a former bar owner), its just like telling me I haven't
grown up and can't function without a mother telling we how...:'( I am a grown
man and I know how much to drink. And when to call a cab or a friend to drive me
home after I have enjoyed myself too much.
AZ> not only beer, first it were companies which produce food/bevÅrage/medicine
AZ> products. Any product which you can import and sell in short amount of
AZ> time. Now electronic/car etc companies join them
Welcome to the world...Now they want your money...:')
Roger
Roger Etheredge
On Dec 07 12:56 97, Sergey Stepanoff of 2:5020/1261 wrote:
SS> No. Americans have a problem with too many of your people is not drinking
SS> :-) :-) :-) You are right, but it not the big problem.
SS> Yesterday my friends-fidonetters is meet. I drink ~3 liters of beer and
SS> gin-tonic, and after that... write little program on the Pascal for my job
SS> ;-) Big Stomach is not FROM beer, big stomach is FOR beer! ;-)
Now why didn't I think of that...I ain't drinking enuff...:')
SS> Many sorts of american beer selling in Russia long ago. But... Prices is
SS> big. For example, russian beer "Baltika" or "Ochakovo" i can buy beyond
SS> 4000-6000 roubles (1$=6000 roubles), and import beer beyond 5000-25000
SS> (about 0.5 liter). Unfortunately, after 6 years of krisis, Russia-no rich
SS> country. :-( Only in 1997 condition of our economic is beginning improve.
SS> After beginning economical reforms in Russia quality of Russian beer is
SS> improved.
Sergey;
Beer here is about $1.25 a bottle in the bars. And about $4.?? for a
sixpack in the liquor stores and grocery stores. Imports are a little more.
The economy improving alot isn't it???
Roger
Roger Etheredge
On Dec 07 22:07 97, Grisha Nikonov of 2:5020/1401 wrote:
GN> That's right. It's a problem - unfortunately it's a real problem, a
GN> problem, that came from ancient times. Russian people realy can (and they
GN> do) drink much more, than foreigners, this problem is genetic to some
GN> extent ;(, of course with foreign companies moved here, young people,
GN> wanting to have stable future, try to keep from drinking, so do I, not
GN> only because I want to get a good job, but because I can see a dramaticaly
GN> great number of lives, broken because of such a... habbit. It's unlikely
GN> other countries, our people is used to drink forgetting all the limits and
GN> it's awful. I can continue, but I'd rather conseal my feelings, it's
GN> getting to emotional, sorry.
Grisha;
You say it stems from ancient times...Whadda ya mean??? The future is
bright for Mother Russia, right??? Stay with it, things WILL get better. Sorry
your having problems discussing it. It seems to make things better for me to
talk about things.
Roger
Alexandr Vinogradov
Having fun?
It was back in 06 Dec 97 21:30, when times were hard..
Eugenij Zolotov [2:5080/84.5] wrote to Alexandr Vinogradov:
AV>>> If you don't give response till the new year i'll have to remove
AV>>> you from the list.
EZ> I'm, as before, here ! =)
i'll be abusing the rules by talking w/ you, but i will try to be short :)
that's great. you see, you are only the second person who gave the answer
yet. cool, eh? why did i ask for it? because the list became rather big, and
i suspected that not all these ppl are really in the echo.. well, you are the
third one, if i'll count myself! <g>
Grisha Nikonov
Hi, Roger, how're you ?!
08 Dec 97, Roger Etheredge ---> Grisha Nikonov:
RE> You say it stems from ancient times...Whadda ya mean???
Surely you know, that Russia's the country, vodka was invented in :-\ that's
one. Two is that Russian alcohol was the strongest even at ancient times: French
wines, British beer, ale, etc... Maybe tequilla could stand against :)
There's a hm.. legend about the Russian Christianity - you might know, that
Russia became a Christian country a thousand years ago, so representatives of
world religions came to Russian czar Vladimir at that time and they offered
their religions to be Russia's national religion... When czar learned, that the
Islam prohibited drinking, he said, that is would be impossible to make it
Russian religion, so he chose Christianity :)
RE> The future is bright for Mother Russia, right???
no doubt ;)
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Roger Etheredge
On Dec 10 00:06 97, Grisha Nikonov of 2:5020/1401 wrote:
RE>> You say it stems from ancient times...Whadda ya mean???
GN> Surely you know, that Russia's the country, vodka was invented in :-\
GN> that's one. Two is that Russian alcohol was the strongest even at ancient
GN> times: French wines, British beer, ale, etc... Maybe tequilla could stand
GN> against :)
I knew Russia grew a lot of potatoes, and therefore had lotz of surplus
to do something with. You know Grisha, I never stopped to think about it until
now. And your right...British are known for their ale/beer, the French for their
wines, Germany for their beer, Mexico for its To-Kill-Ya (tequila), China for
its Saki (liquor made from Rice), and so on and so forth. Seems like when there
is an over abundance of anything it is made into an alcoholic drink of some
kind.
GN> There's a hm.. legend about the Russian Christianity - you might know,
GN> that Russia became a Christian country a thousand years ago, so
GN> representatives of world religions came to Russian czar Vladimir at that
GN> time and they offered their religions to be Russia's national religion...
GN> When czar learned, that the Islam prohibited drinking, he said, that is
GN> would be impossible to make it Russian religion, so he chose Christianity
GN> :)
No I didn't know this...I'm learning tho, thanks to people like you.
RE>> The future is bright for Russia, right???
GN> no doubt ;)
And I for one am very happy for you...
Roger
Sergey Stepanoff
Hi, Roger!
RE> Beer here is about $1.25 a bottle in the bars. And about $4.??
RE> for a sixpack in the liquor stores and grocery stores.
In the bars we are drink only expensive barrels beer.
RE> Imports are a little more.
In Russia now the customs is big...
RE> The economy improving alot isn't it???
Yes, you are right. But... for example, i'm a student, and like to drink
bottle of beer after studies/work(i work in little financial company). I preper
to buy 0.5 liter of good russian beer instead 0.33 liter of imports.
Alexandr Vinogradov
Having fun?
15 Dec 97 12:51, Sergey Stepanoff wrote to Roger Etheredge:
RE>> The economy improving alot isn't it???
SS> Yes, you are right. But... for example, i'm a student, and like to
SS> drink bottle of beer after studies/work(i work in little financial
SS> company). I preper to buy 0.5 liter of good russian beer instead 0.33
SS> liter of imports.
uh, oh. .5 of good russian beer costs close to .5 of not bad import one!
Alex Panov
Пpиветствую вас Roger!
В письме от Сpд Дек 10 1997,00:56, Roger Etheredge (1:393/69@fidonet) пишет
Grisha Nikonov :
GN>> Surely you know, that Russia's the country, vodka was invented in
[∙:∙S∙k∙i∙p∙:∙]
RE> I knew Russia grew a lot of potatoes, and therefore had lotz
RE> of surplus to do something with.
and so what? do you mean the all these surpluses {why do you think they are
persist, it's cold winters here and you can get very hungry that time ;)
} go for making vodka? that's wrong
RE> You know Grisha, I never stopped to
RE> think about it until now.
really?
RE> And your right...British are known for their
RE> ale/beer, the French for their wines, Germany for their beer, Mexico
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Alex Panov
Пpиветствую вас Grisha!
В письме от Вcк Дек 07 1997,22:07, Grisha Nikonov (2:5020/1401) пишет Roger
Etheredge :
RE>> the original source...So, is there a problem over there with way
RE>> to many people drinking way to much alcohol???
GN> That's right. It's a problem - unfortunately it's a real problem,
GN> a problem, that came from ancient times. Russian people realy can (and
GN> they do) drink much more, than foreigners, this problem is genetic to
GN> some extent ;(, of course with foreign companies moved here, young
GN> people, wanting to have stable future, try to keep from drinking, so
GN> do I, not only because I want to get a good job, but because I can see
GN> a dramaticaly great number of lives, broken because of such a...
GN> habbit. It's unlikely other countries, our people is used to drink
GN> forgetting all the limits and it's awful. I can continue, but I'd
GN> rather conseal my feelings, it's getting to emotional, sorry.
amen.. ;)
The only thing I want to say to you, Grigory, is that I know many humans who
are not very clever, they drink a lot of vodka (often bad vodka) and they cut
their lives, of course and, you know, they are right. And I do not prevent them
from doing it. On the other hand I know much more clever people who
drink vodka as well and it is their business and they are right. ;)
Alex Panov
Пpиветствую вас Alexey!
В письме от Суб Дек 06 1997,11:57, Alexey Zimin (2:5020/488.19) пишет Roger
Etheredge :
RE>> Over here some of the investigative television reports
RE>> about Russians Say that ya'll have a problem with too many of
RE>> your people drinking. I usually like to hear things straight from
RE>> the original source...So, is there a problem over there with way
RE>> to many people drinking way to much alcohol???
AZ> yeah, thats a real problem, national problem. during all it history
AZ> russia was and still remain hard drinking country,
every one should recpect the traditions of his counyry, doesn't he?
AZ> but now things
AZ> getting even worse due difficult situation in our contry. Almost all
AZ> categories of people drink enormous amounts of vodka,
It's very interesting.. ;)
AZ> buisnessman for
AZ> their victories and to release stress, homeless to get out from their
AZ> real awful life, other - to relax.
well, as usual, as anythere
AZ> Here is a sad joke: all nations
AZ> drink to have fun, but russians to get drunk.