Week One - Superstitions

[Alex Gandy]

Jem, Scout, and Dill make up plenty of tall tales about Boo Radley.  Because they are children, we judge their stories as more naive and imaginative.  However, adults in Maycomb seem to buy into these superstitions as well.  Is it harmful when adults believe in such tall tales or can they be judged as imaginative in the same way as the children?  Why or why not?    

[Ali Quarles]

I think that in a way, the adults go along with the tale tales so they do not have to really explain the unknown. No one really knows Boo, they only have heard things. Almost like a he said she said situation.  It is impossible for adults to explain the absurd tales without any facts to really back them up.

Alison Marie Quarles

On Apr 28, 2013, at 11:39 PM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

Jem, Scout, and Dill make up plenty of tall tales about Boo Radley.  Because they are children, we judge their stories as more naive and imaginative.  However, adults in Maycomb seem to buy into these superstitions as well.  Is it harmful when adults believe in such tall tales or can they be judged as imaginative in the same way as the children?  Why or why not?    

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[Dalia Gabriela Rebolledo]

I believe that its not okay for adults to believe in such tales because they never allow the children to understand what really is happening. It just confuses people and the children. For example we have two stories: the story of  Miss Stephanie Crawford, that only scares the children, and then we have the story Miss Maudie, who told Scout that Mr. Arthur stayed in this house and that's all. At the end the children will believe either story, only leaving them with questions that lead to games and actions that are not right, like trying to make Boo Radley come out. This tales are not right and adults shouldn't believe them.

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[Caleb Smith-Shaw]

I think that the children go along with the Boo Radley legend more than the adults do. Maybe its because the children had not seen Arthur and the adults have. The adults in the book seem to have more of a grasp on what really happened.

[Jacob Tanamachi]

I believe that to an extent, these superstitions are a good way of explaining the unknown to a young child, or to someone who lacks the mental capacity to comprehend the truth. But, when taken too literally, these same superstitions can become unhealthy and can taint the minds of our growing youth. There is a harmony between reality and imagination, and when that harmony is broken, there is the potential for disaster. To answer the question directly- I do believe that it is harmful when adults believe these superstitions. 

On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

Jem, Scout, and Dill make up plenty of tall tales about Boo Radley.  Because they are children, we judge their stories as more naive and imaginative.  However, adults in Maycomb seem to buy into these superstitions as well.  Is it harmful when adults believe in such tall tales or can they be judged as imaginative in the same way as the children?  Why or why not?    

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[Jacob Tanamachi]

I agree with you, Caleb. The adults, being older and somewhat wiser, have a better perspective on the situation than the kids do. 

[Blake Grabsky]

It is harmful for adults to believe in superstitions. Superstitions can not be based on fact which means that they are not true. A superstition might be born from a past experience, but that does not mean that every experience will be the same.
A superstition is not a logical thing to believe in for an adult. Their superstitious beliefs can very likely transcend to children. There are no pros of an adult believing in superstitions, but there is an important con to consider.
What good does an adult have to believe in a superstition? Superstitions generally cause someone to go out of their way to prevent something bad from happening. For example: Scout runs instead of walks on her way home near the Radley's home.
Superstitions can cause stress too, especially when someone believes that they haven't done the "necessary procedure" to prevent the bad from happening. It isn't healthy for a child to exhibit this kind of stress, so it is not okay for an adult to have superstition because it can easily be adopted by a child.

--Blake Grabsky

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Date: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:06:10 pm
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From: "Jacob Tanamachi" <jet.tan...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Week One - Superstitions

I believe that to an extent, these superstitions are a good way of
explaining the unknown to a young child, or to someone who lacks the mental
capacity to comprehend the truth. But, when taken too literally, these same
superstitions can become unhealthy and can taint the minds of our growing
youth. There is a harmony between reality and imagination, and when that
harmony is broken, there is the potential for disaster. To answer the

question directly- I do believe that it is harmful when adults *believe* these
superstitions.

[dali...@gmail.com]

Caleb~ I agree that adults are wise but does that mean that its okay for them to belive in these kind of superstitions? gaby

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[Igor Do Nascimento]

what i think is this, when you grow up in a small country town, superstitions are basically the only stories available in their society and what you grow up with, just as legends of werewolf or other beasts of the same nature or weird stuff that happens which to them doesn't seem to have any possible explanation, these same people tend to make up their mind with what they think will best fit their explanation of that particular happening, and since where Scout live is not as developed or the people who live there are ignorant to the world just outside their own because they don't have the education and the intellect to distinguish the real from imaginary world.

I was raised in a small town too and what i can say about it is that many people from the country where i lived were narrow minded and grew up the same way their parent's parents did. they grew up believing in the unbelievable stories and superstitions that came long before they were there, which makes them believe it is true.

It is simple to judge someone by the knowledge they don't have, when you have all the answers and they don't. 

"You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view - until you climb into his skin and walk around in it."

-Atticus Finch

Igor Do Nascimento

[Jacob Tanamachi]

I agree with you, Blake. It is harmful to society as a whole if there are grown men and women who treat superstitions the same way that children do. In the past, there have been civilizations who practiced this-they do not exist today. In my opinion, it is okay for adults to teach young children who are incapable of comprehending truth these superstitions, but it is not okay for them to practice following them. This instills unnecessary fear in the minds of everyone and can lead to wrongful decision-making and leadership. Adults believing in these fairy tales, like you said, can cause stress, unneeded precautions, and fear.

[BLAKE GRABSKY]

     I agree with you all the way, Jacob. I really like your reference to reality and imagination and how both should be in harmony with each other. Superstitions can sometimes be good for children. It's okay for parents to tell their children that if they misbehave, Santa won't bring them any presents. The belief in Santa teaches children that rewards come from good behavior, and that punishments come from misbehavior. However, this belief in Santa shouldn't be carried on throughout adulthood because it's childish and not true. What you said is completely accurate: It is harmful when adults believe these superstitions.

--Blake Grabsky

[Wil Kahlich]

Superstitions are the basis for many things. Some religions, some ways of life, and many other aspects of culture. Many beautiful works of are like music and paintings have their origins in superstitious beliefs. Society has placed a large expectations upon adults, which isn't necessarily wrong, but to assume that adults don't have over active imaginations is ridiculous. The imagination is what allows us as humans to advance the world around us and ourselves.

Although, there are irrational, harmful superstitions that cause us to change how we act, often for the worse. We might avoid a person, simply because of a irrelevant horoscope. We might 2nd guess ourselves because of some outside opinion that has no basis in any logic. As adults have the most influence in society, I think they need to be careful about what they allow to affect their decisions, as not all superstitions are beneficial.

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[Siqi Huang]

I agree that children are considered tolerable when it comes to what they can believe because they are inexerienced. As time diffuses with experience the human minds changes too. However, that isn't the case with everybody. It could possibly be the time period they lived in. This I agree with Igor that not everybody experience a wide range of information enough to judge because they don't know any other options except for the ones they grew up with. It's like a childish opinion in an adult body that never fully developed into any other direction so that's why we, like Atticus said, should try to view the world from their shoes.

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[Alexandra Olazaran]

It's harmful for adults to be superstitious because children need adults to be the rational ones and to keep a level head, but if they are believing silly tales they urge kids to believe them too. In TKAM the adults get very carried away with the rumors about Arthur Radley and that is why Scout, Jem, and Dill think of such crazy things. Those kinds of rumors wouldn't start or carry on if the adults laid out a simple truth even if it was vague. If adults want to be as imaginative as children I feel like they shouldn't share their ideas or stories with anyone so that more superstitions do not start.

On Apr 28, 2013, at 11:39 PM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

Jem, Scout, and Dill make up plenty of tall tales about Boo Radley.  Because they are children, we judge their stories as more naive and imaginative.  However, adults in Maycomb seem to buy into these superstitions as well.  Is it harmful when adults believe in such tall tales or can they be judged as imaginative in the same way as the children?  Why or why not?    

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[Sydney Kane]

As I read on in To Kill a Mockingbird I am finding out that there are two kinds of "gossips" ones like Miss Stephanie Crawford, and ones like Miss Maudie. Miss Stephanie Crawford is the perfect example of an overdramatic "Real Housewives" type of gossip. They are drama starters who only make up stories to get good feedback and alot of attention. Now although these may seem like the more interesting people to talk to about things...most of the time it's not true. It's JUST GOSSIP. And then there are the adults like Miss Maudie who DO gossip...but only about the truth and what they have heard. Yet don't make up stories, they don't add any extra detail in it. They are blunt and it may not be what people want to hear...but it's the truth. Adults who partake in the vociferous gossip about Boo Radley in either case, however, are only creating drama...and that drama DOES spread to their children. Which will spread on to other children...which will only make the case worse. Adults are supposed to adults and lead the way for the RIGHT reasons. Not egg on the gossip for FUN reasons. 

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On Apr 28, 2013, at 11:39 PM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

Jem, Scout, and Dill make up plenty of tall tales about Boo Radley.  Because they are children, we judge their stories as more naive and imaginative.  However, adults in Maycomb seem to buy into these superstitions as well.  Is it harmful when adults believe in such tall tales or can they be judged as imaginative in the same way as the children?  Why or why not?    

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[Mikayla Lewison]

I agree with Jacob and Blake. You're right when to an extent superstitions are a good for teaching our future generations about myths and superstitions, but some kids might take it too literally. I know for a fact if I was a young kid in the book, I would totally believe a superstition 100% because I'm so gullible. Sometimes, we have to be careful with what we say to other people. There is a large scale of difference in what people actually know and what they are making up. Some superstitions can be so bogus, but believed. Adults should display two different views in front of children so they aren't "brainwashed" per-say, because it can be very harmful.We also look up to adults for advice and inherit some of their opinions because we trust them. If they are believing crazy rumors, so will kids and the whole story will be blown out of proportion.

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[Shaye Murray]

I agree with you guys: Wil, Blake, and Jacob.  There is an extent to which superstitions should be believed. And adults should have the sense to know not to feed false information to people. There is a need for imagination as you said Wil, and superstitions play a large role in our society and give an unspoken set of morals to live by. Adults can believe them as long as they know where to draw the line on them. And as you said Jacob, "superstitions can be taught, but they shouldn't necessarily be practiced".

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[Meagan Kelly]

It's not necessarily harmful for the adults to believe in such tales, but when they act upon and judge the people in these tales, that's harmful. It makes their kids think that judging and believing what you hear is okay. If their kids are like that then they will raise their kids to be like that and etc. I don't think you could classify them as imaginative, but cautious. Boo could easily be considered crazy, and it maybe smart to be careful, but should you make your path just to avoid that one person or house, is ridiculous and unnecessary. 

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On Apr 28, 2013, at 11:39 PM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

Jem, Scout, and Dill make up plenty of tall tales about Boo Radley.  Because they are children, we judge their stories as more naive and imaginative.  However, adults in Maycomb seem to buy into these superstitions as well.  Is it harmful when adults believe in such tall tales or can they be judged as imaginative in the same way as the children?  Why or why not?    

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[Dalia Gabriela Rebolledo]

I don't think that children should hear this kind of superstitions, such as the Boo Radley story.. Even if adults don't believe these superstitions, they shouldn't use them as an explanation of why things are the way they are. I agree with superstitions causing stress, unneeded precautions, and fear that lead to wrongful decision-making. Therefore superstitions are harmful to children and the parents shouldn't teach them because even if they don't believe in them they are hurting the children. Something I don't understand is how can reality and imagination be in harmony?

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[Jansen Rees]

Yes, I do think that adults believing in the stories can be harmful. When an adult believes in something, children tend to, too. For example, when the adults believe in the Boo Radley rumors and stories, then the kids start to believe they are true too. In their defense though, a lot of the time the adults do not know the full story, but that doesn’t give them to right to make some up. I agree with what Miss Maudie says when she talks to Scout. She basically tells Scout that there are secrets in the Radley’s house, but she does not know the full story. So instead of coming up with one, she just told the truth. I also think that the adults cannot be judged as imaginative becasue they have the logic and hopefully the maturity to know that those stories are not true. For example, I hope that the adults do not believe in the Boo Radley sneaking out at night, eating animals, and watching people story becasue it is in fact not true by any means.

On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

Jem, Scout, and Dill make up plenty of tall tales about Boo Radley.  Because they are children, we judge their stories as more naive and imaginative.  However, adults in Maycomb seem to buy into these superstitions as well.  Is it harmful when adults believe in such tall tales or can they be judged as imaginative in the same way as the children?  Why or why not?    

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[Alexandra Olazaran]

Alison, I agree that the adults have no clue what is going on, but I disagree that that is why they use those superstitions. Adults should know better than to make up stories to describe things they are not sure about. It is impossible to make any solid accusations because they don't have any facts, so they are urging kids to make up stories for anything they do not have the facts to. I think the adults are being childish in agreeing with those superstitions and spreading those rumors. Worse actually, because Scout, Jem, and Dill only share this stories with each other.

[Gissel Glez]

Gaby, from my point of view adults should not believe in those kind of superstitions or any other kind because of the fact that they are never accurate and people most of the time just make them up. Like  Caleb said adults are wise and know what to believe and what not to believe about kids superstitions shows that adults don't believe in superstitions  of those kind because they know better. So I think that is not okay for the adults to believe in them without proof. Anyway, Gaby does that answer your question in a way?

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[Wil Kahlich]

This is an addition to my earlier email-

While adults should not believe in irrational, illogical superstitions, I think it would be very foolish not to acknowledge them.

this is a response to pretty much everybody-

I agree that superstitions will typically cause problems if taken seriously. Blake, I really like the reference to Santa Claus! That is a perfect example of teaching a lesson with a metaphorical person, rather than truly thinking that there is a fat, jolly man who lives in the North Pole with flying reindeer and delivers presents to every child on earth.

When I was talking about art, I was mainly referring to Greek and Roman mythology. Their many myths, legends, and superstitions produced marvelous works of art, many of which are still used as models for modern artists to follow. This type of superstition brought beauty, not chaos and foolishness.

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-Wil

[Sydney Kane]

Shaye that's a really good point. Like rumors are whether we like it or not, interesting and entertaining. However we can be taught these superstitions and we can also be taught that there are reasons as to why some superstitions aren't right...adults are acting like children rather than stopping their own by spreading these rumors. 

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[Sarah Park]

I think that when children make up tall tales about Boo Radley it's okay because they are young and don't yet understand a lot of things. However, adults are more wise and educated, so they should know better than to play along with the tall tales. It is harmful when adults believe these stories because the children won't ever know that these stories were just make-believe. Adults should be the ones telling the children that making up stories like the ones Jem, Scout, and Dill made up weren't true, like  Miss Maudie. They should be responsible to keep these stories in line because nobody really knows what goes on with Boo Radley. Adults who play along are just as naive and should be frowned upon.

[Katharine Jovicich]

I think it is harmful for adults to belive the stories about Boo Radley because they wouldn't except him in the society. If he ever came out of the house they would think he's crazy. Its like stariotyping a race or religion because it takes one adult to take it to far and try to wipe out the race or religion from the society. One adult in Maycomb county could decide to burn the house like Jem said about the turtle to get Boo to come out. This is why its more harmful for an adult to belive in the stories.

[Caleb Smith-Shaw]

I agree with Blake. An adult believing in superstitions can be a bad thing. Children rely on adults to give them the truth. I know that when I was little, whenever I had a question I would go to one of my parents, an adult family member, or a teacher seeking the answer. If one of the adults I had come to with a question had given me an answer based on a silly superstition, then I would believe what they said to be a fact until much later when I found out on my own.  In the book Scout is told by several of the main adult characters that the Boo Radley Legend is no more than just a spooky story. Over time Scout begins to realize that what she had been told is true and ceases to run past the Radley house whenever she passes it. I think that if She hadn't been told the truth about Arthur Radley, she would continue to afraid.  

[Meagan Kelly]

I really like what Sydney said about two different kinds of gossip. The reasonable kind that's simple stating what you heard with no bias, and the over dramatic gossip that makes everything unrealistic and generally, hurtful. I agree with Shaye and Jacob about superstitions should be taught not necessarily followed because that shows that the adult is smart and conscious enough to know what's being dramatic and unrealistic versus what should actually be taught from the tale. In this book you see a lot of the adults act as children because of their belief and overreaction to the Radley's. 

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[zulrich]

I think that myths and tall tales stop being a big deal around the end of elementary school. For instance, a long time ago, I believed there was a monster under my bed who was out to eat me. Now, I know that is not true, because face-eating monsters are not real. Could you imagine if an aged, mature adult believed in face-eating monsters? This world we live in would be nothing like it is today if adults didn't mature over time. So, yes. It is harmful to the community for responsible adults to believe in mythical accusations about another person. Or worse, face-eating monsters.

[zulrich]

I could not agree with you more, Jacob. If adults believe something dumb like the world ending in 2012, well, we are still here, right? It's things like the world ending in 2012. Society deemes to be true and, if they get enough publicity like the end of the world, most everyone will believe (or made fun of) the fact that the world would end at said date.

On Monday, April 29, 2013 5:06:10 PM UTC-5, jet.tanamachi27 wrote:

I believe that to an extent, these superstitions are a good way of explaining the unknown to a young child, or to someone who lacks the mental capacity to comprehend the truth. But, when taken too literally, these same superstitions can become unhealthy and can taint the minds of our growing youth. There is a harmony between reality and imagination, and when that harmony is broken, there is the potential for disaster. To answer the question directly- I do believe that it is harmful when adults believe these superstitions. 

On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

Jem, Scout, and Dill make up plenty of tall tales about Boo Radley.  Because they are children, we judge their stories as more naive and imaginative.  However, adults in Maycomb seem to buy into these superstitions as well.  Is it harmful when adults believe in such tall tales or can they be judged as imaginative in the same way as the children?  Why or why not?    

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[Jansen Rees]

I totally agree with Sarah. Kids don't know better because they are too young to understand, but like Sarah said, adults that believe in this stuff should be frowned upon. They should have the maturity to tell the kids the truth and not join in to the stories. If the adults go along with the stories as well, then the kids will think they are true and that causes them to make up even more stories. This can result in something bad if the adults don't watch out because the kids will become curious and want to know more. Like Jem for example, he wanted to know more about Boo Radley so he tried to look into the house and look how that turned out. 

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[Caleb Smith-Shaw]

I think that superstitions can keep people from learning the truth. For example if everyone on your neighborhood believed that the old lady who lived at the end of your street was a witch, then everyone would try to avoid her. If someone would just talk to her or get to know her they would find out that she is no more than an old lady. In the book, if one of the children were to go over to the Radley house and knock on the door to and introduced himself to Arthur and talked to him instead of sneaking around the property or trying to send a note to him, they would discover that he is not a ghost or a monster, but just a regular person.

[Emma Preston]

Jansen, I like what you said about children making up even more stories if adults do not stop them. Adults need to nip the problem in the bud so the extravagant myths do not become more dramatic. I think this problem also relates to how rumors pass through school. It's like a game of telephone - one person will say one thing and next thing you know a completely different story is circulating. The stories that the children are telling may become more outrageous, as well as numerous, as time goes by if adults are not reinforcing the invalidity of them. 

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[Gissel Glez]

I think that the adults in Maycomb should not believe in the kid’s tales, stories, or superstitions of any kind without having actual proof or facts about it. It may be harmful, for example Jem, Scout, and Dill making up stories about Boo and telling people could have hurt him. This can also be included in real life; anyone may make superstitions about someone without them actually knowing about it and hurt them. For this, adults should not buy themselves into superstitions of any kind without knowing if it’s true. 

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[Gissel Glez]

I Think Caleb has a really good point and I totally agree because, as he said "everyone on your neighborhood believed that the old lady who lived at the end of your street was a witch, then everyone would try to avoid her. If someone would just talk to her or get to know her they would find out that she is no more than an old lady." By knowing who she actually was could have kept people from saying things about people and could stop the rumor of superstition and it would not hurt her.

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[Siqi Huang]

Soon enough superstitions become part of the people when they don't grow out of it. Like Ms. Crawford for example, I cannot say that her stories aren't creative but it gets to a point and then beyond that could be hurtful. She looks toward superstition to start something interesting; however, when it’s toward somebody that is like spreading rumors. The could-be-false information may fuse into the younger generation like Scout, Jem, and Dill which could cause them to actually believe that it was true since they weren’t experienced from other aspects just like how Ms. Crawford have never been a Radley. Unlike most of the townspeople, Atticus and Miss Maudie seemed to know better and they generally had similar knowledge as some other people in the same area so I don’t think time or the environment was the issue here. It is acceptable for the children to take those tall tales but I find it a bit childish for the adults to be as gullible as them.

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[Sarah Park]

Caleb, I totally agree with you. Confrontation is more mature and adult-like. Adults should have a reasonable sense to not play along with the superstitions, but to go and confront people to discover the truth. You just need to know when to draw a line, like Siqi mentioned. Superstitions are exactly like rumors in a way; they both aren't necessarily true, but people believe them anyway. The adults should know by now that these outrageous superstitions aren't true and they should be able to tell their children the same, just like Atticus and Miss Maudie has displayed. Siqi, I really like the word gullible you used to describe the adults because it's the perfect word to describe the situation, and the children can be described as naive. 

[Angelica Pasaran]

I think it is harmful for the adults to believe the superstitions like Boo Radley because they will reject him in society like the children do. They need to be the mature ones and explain to their children not believe them. The fact that some adults would believe in such stories displays ignorance because they chose to believe in a tall tale. How awkward would it be if Boo came out of the house and he looked like a normal person. --- On Mon, 4/29/13, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Angelica Pasaran]

I agree with Katherine! That's what I was trying to say, about stereotyping.If you stereotype someone then that displays ignorance. --- On Tue, 4/30/13, Katharine Jovicich <kjov...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Amy Schmitt]

Meagan, I agree with you about adults taking action is what turns the situation harmful, but when you mentioned that their children would then think that judging others and believing what you hear is okay I have to wonder if the parents of those children think that it is okay. It is easy for someone from our, I could say English class, to see that judging others and always believing what you hear isn't always right, but if the parents give in, is it because they are disregarding their conscience, or do they not know their actions to be wrong? If they don't know if their actions are wrong then the parents watching their children follow in their footsteps wouldn't be a burden. I agree with your point about how ridiculous it would be to go out of one's way to avoid a person or house, and with that, I too can (strongly) agree with your statement about the adults being cautious rather than imaginative.

[Caren Aguilar]

hey guys I'm finally here in the group

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[Robert Cooper Flickinger]

To tell you the truth I believe the children believe it because there children and children are easily swayed by what adults say. Maybe the adults just go with it to keep the children entertained and imaginative. Or maybe the adults believe it themselves, Heck maybe the adults just think its funny to watch the kids poop their pants everytime they walk by the radley place. I would pay cash money to see that.

[Kennedy Curley]

I agree with Siqi and Amy. If an adult leads a child to believe that a superstition is real, it can and probably will be harmful to that child's mind. Many of the things said to those kids aren't true, but with kids' innocence and the parent encouraging the rumor, there can be lots of trouble as a result. Children don't know if they are spreading lies or hurting another person's reputation or feelings by telling others about these rumors, so adults need to be careful about what they tell their sons and daughters or how they influence their thoughts.

[Caren Aguilar]

I think that superstitions are a way of life in some counties, It's just a fact of life that from the first moments of socializing to when we are grown adults, we have always been susceptible to rumors and rumors become superstitions. All these superstitions about the Radley house are all rumors from the days of when the incidents really happened and over time they became wilder and wilder, until they soon became superstitions of the town itself.

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Subject: RE: Week One - Superstitions

[Owen Lee]

It is very harmful when adults believe the tall tales they hear children making up. It is different when children believe everything they hear than when adults believe everything they hear; the children do not seem to know anything other than jumping to conclusions. They do not know anything better than to believe the first thing they hear. Adults should not jump to such childish conclusions as children do; they know better than to assume such foolish things and to believe the first thing they hear.

[Ashley Muchin]

Children learn from adults as well as adults learn from children. When children hear rumors about somethings, they can turn into superstitions. Then they start actually believing them. The same can happen with adults. But it can be harmful if the adults believe those superstitions. If the adults believe them, the can start feeding the wrong information to the children. Then the children make it worse. It is the wrong information that twists everyone's minds. Sometimes you can't blame the adults for having imaginative minds. Sometimes the truth is to harsh to comprehend so they block it out of their minds.

[Alexandra Olazaran]

Siqi I agree 100% with you. Miss Maudie and miss Crawford probably have the exact same information about the Radley's, but Miss Maudie chooses not to twist that information into rumors and superstitions. Today Ms. Gandy said a really goo point that when Miss Crawford said she saw Arthur Radley staring at her from her window, that Miss Maudie asked her if she rolled over to make room for him. Miss Maudie is calling miss Crawford out on her lies and I feel like the other adults should do that too instead of perpetuating the lies and false stories.

[Robert Cooper Flickinger]

i see what you are trying to say but the fact still remains that they are children. And the story that seems more fantastic or unbelieveable to them is the one that they might choose to go with. Some adults prolong the superstitions and some try to put them to rest. Theres not much you can do about that.

On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Dalia Gabriela Rebolledo <dali...@gmail.com> wrote:

I believe that its not okay for adults to believe in such tales because they never allow the children to understand what really is happening. It just confuses people and the children. For example we have two stories: the story of  Miss Stephanie Crawford, that only scares the children, and then we have the story Miss Maudie, who told Scout that Mr. Arthur stayed in this house and that's all. At the end the children will believe either story, only leaving them with questions that lead to games and actions that are not right, like trying to make Boo Radley come out. This tales are not right and adults shouldn't believe them.

2013/4/29 Ali Quarles <alison....@yahoo.com>

I think that in a way, the adults go along with the tale tales so they do not have to really explain the unknown. No one really knows Boo, they only have heard things. Almost like a he said she said situation.  It is impossible for adults to explain the absurd tales without any facts to really back them up.

Alison Marie Quarles

On Apr 28, 2013, at 11:39 PM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

Jem, Scout, and Dill make up plenty of tall tales about Boo Radley.  Because they are children, we judge their stories as more naive and imaginative.  However, adults in Maycomb seem to buy into these superstitions as well.  Is it harmful when adults believe in such tall tales or can they be judged as imaginative in the same way as the children?  Why or why not?    

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[Caroline McCoy]

Alex, I love the point that you made at the end. Miss Maudie is a character that will always be herself and, like you said, both she and Atticus know more than those who make up rumors and superstitions about Boo Radley or anyone else in the town. I'm sure some of us liked it when Miss Maudie called Miss Crawford out on her lie. Emma and I were talking the other day in class about Boo Radley and how what if he is one of the nicest guys but he doesn't know exactly how to act, etc. but he's the complete opposite from the rumors that other people are spreading about him.

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Siqi I agree 100% with you. Miss Maudie and miss Crawford probably have the exact same information about the Radley's, but Miss Maudie chooses not to twist that information into rumors and superstitions. Today Ms. Gandy said a really goo point that when Miss Crawford said she saw Arthur Radley staring at her from her window, that Miss Maudie asked her if she rolled over to make room for him. Miss Maudie is calling miss Crawford out on her lies and I feel like the other adults should do that too instead of perpetuating the lies and false stories.

On May 1, 2013, at 9:17 PM, Siqi Huang <siqi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Soon enough superstitions become part of the people when they don't grow out of it. Like Ms. Crawford for example, I cannot say that her stories aren't creative but it gets to a point and then beyond that could be hurtful. She looks toward superstition to start something interesting; however, when it’s toward somebody that is like spreading rumors. The could-be-false information may fuse into the younger generation like Scout, Jem, and Dill which could cause them to actually believe that it was true since they weren’t experienced from other aspects just like how Ms. Crawford have never been a Radley. Unlike most of the townspeople, Atticus and Miss Maudie seemed to know better and they generally had similar knowledge as some other people in the same area so I don’t think time or the environment was the issue here. It is acceptable for the children to take those tall tales but I find it a bit childish for the adults to be as gullible as them.

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Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 23:39:49 -0500
Subject: Week One - Superstitions
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Jem, Scout, and Dill make up plenty of tall tales about Boo Radley.  Because they are children, we judge their stories as more naive and imaginative.  However, adults in Maycomb seem to buy into these superstitions as well.  Is it harmful when adults believe in such tall tales or can they be judged as imaginative in the same way as the children?  Why or why not?    

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[Ethan Frechtman]

I think that because adults are viewed by children as authority figures who generally have better judgement, it is very detrimental to (in this case Maycomb's but really all) society  when the adults start believing the same type of rumors or tall tales. Young children are very impressionable and when they hear something from their parents or other adults, it only encourages them to believe it, and take it as factual.