Nature vs. Nurture

[Alex Gandy]

In Chapter 13, Aunt Alexandra tries to impress upon Jem and Scout the importance of family heritage. Scout responds that she “had received the impression that Fine Folks were people who did the best they could with the sense they had, but Aunt Alexandra was of the opinion, obliquely expressed, that the longer a family had been squatting on one patch of land the finer it was.” Which opinion—Scout’s idea that it’s what you do that makes you who you are versus Aunt Alexandra’s opinion that it’s the family you’re born into—is closer to your own?

Either way, do you think people are judged according to their breeding/family background?

[Ali Quarles]

I agree with Scout. If people based there opinion of me on my family's past, people would think that my life is unstable and surely I will end up how my uncle or my father. I promise you I will NOT end up that way. I will have a future and It will be a sober happy life. No one should base opinions or character on family lineage. Although it may show the environment someone may have gotten influence from, they still are individuals.

Alison Marie Quarles

On May 6, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

In Chapter 13, Aunt Alexandra tries to impress upon Jem and Scout the importance of family heritage. Scout responds that she “had received the impression that Fine Folks were people who did the best they could with the sense they had, but Aunt Alexandra was of the opinion, obliquely expressed, that the longer a family had been squatting on one patch of land the finer it was.” Which opinion—Scout’s idea that it’s what you do that makes you who you are versus Aunt Alexandra’s opinion that it’s the family you’re born into—is closer to your own?

Either way, do you think people are judged according to their breeding/family background?

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[Alexandra Olazaran]

My opinion is closer to Scout's, that you should judge a person by their individual actions and not their family. I do believe that family goes into account into who you are because you grow up with your family and they influence you, but you can still do what is right if your family does something that is wrong or teaches you wrong. I think young adults to adults are judged by their own decisions and actions because they are old enough to think for themselves and make their own decisions. Younger children and kids are judged by their family because at a young age you don't have a large perspective, just your family's and your thoughts and decisions are more influenced by your family than by your own thoughts.

On May 6, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

In Chapter 13, Aunt Alexandra tries to impress upon Jem and Scout the importance of family heritage. Scout responds that she “had received the impression that Fine Folks were people who did the best they could with the sense they had, but Aunt Alexandra was of the opinion, obliquely expressed, that the longer a family had been squatting on one patch of land the finer it was.” Which opinion—Scout’s idea that it’s what you do that makes you who you are versus Aunt Alexandra’s opinion that it’s the family you’re born into—is closer to your own?

Either way, do you think people are judged according to their breeding/family background?

[Mikayla Lewison]

Very often we judge people without even realizing it. We throw out a comment here and there, but don't think it's a big deal.There are many reasons why we need to stop judging other people. People shouldn't be judged based on appearance, religion, sexual orientation, family background - the list goes on. How would you feel if you were judged? Does it make you feel better judging other people? In fact, if you judge others, you're being judged by the people you are judging (if that makes sense). 

This actually happened to me on Saturday. My mom and I ran into someone and after we finished talking with them, my mom looked at me and said, "She's very wealthy if you couldn't tell Mikayla." People are always judged based on their family background no matter who you are.

Also, lets say, Bob's father was a serial killer. If Bob wants to attend a certain school, would administration let him attend? If they didn't know his farther was a convicted serial killer would it be okay? If the school knew about Bob's father, would they feel safe letting him learn in an environment with innocent kids? Sometimes, kids acquire attributes of their parents. Even if Bob was the nicest kid in the world, secretly some people would be skeptical of him attending a school knowing who his father was. If it were me, I would be very wishy-washy about letting him come into my school? So, to answer your question, yes I think people are judged based on their families.

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From: Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Nature vs. Nurture

In Chapter 13, Aunt Alexandra tries to impress upon Jem and Scout the importance of family heritage. Scout responds that she “had received the impression that Fine Folks were people who did the best they could with the sense they had, but Aunt Alexandra was of the opinion, obliquely expressed, that the longer a family had been squatting on one patch of land the finer it was.” Which opinion—Scout’s idea that it’s what you do that makes you who you are versus Aunt Alexandra’s opinion that it’s the family you’re born into—is closer to your own?

Either way, do you think people are judged according to their breeding/family background?

[Shaye Murray]

Scouts idea that "it's what you do that makes you who you are" is closer to my opinion. There are a lot of celebrities/athletes/etc who came from a bad family and difficult upbringing that are now famous and highly respected. In some cases where you fail to get out of the expectation of your family, then you are falsely judged based on them and your heritage. We shouldn't judge people based on their family background, but I think we do anyways because it gives us something to criticize. 

On May 6, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

In Chapter 13, Aunt Alexandra tries to impress upon Jem and Scout the importance of family heritage. Scout responds that she “had received the impression that Fine Folks were people who did the best they could with the sense they had, but Aunt Alexandra was of the opinion, obliquely expressed, that the longer a family had been squatting on one patch of land the finer it was.” Which opinion—Scout’s idea that it’s what you do that makes you who you are versus Aunt Alexandra’s opinion that it’s the family you’re born into—is closer to your own?

Either way, do you think people are judged according to their breeding/family background?

[Katharine Jovicich]

I agree Alison with your statement about family's reputations good or bad does not mean your life will turn out that way. I can see the reverse because that maybe what you grew up with could mean how some family's stay the same generation to generation. There is going to be the one generation that makes a difference in the family and sees life differently then the family like Atticus taking on the trial that his own family doesn't approve on.
Great job Alison for making a difference in your family. (:
I hope to do the same with parts of my family's past mistakes!

[Meagan Kelly]

Though I do disagree with Aunt Alexandra, she has a point. Especially in such a small town. I know a lot of people don't see if that way, but in a small town where literally everyone knows each other, if one family member does mess something up then the whole family looks bad. Is that fair? No. But is that just how it is? Yes. Like look at the Radley's for example. Every family member from Boo's family is now looked upon as scary and not to be messed with because they will kill you or jab you in the leg with a pair of scissors. Like if I did something ridiculous in my family, it reflects poorly on my parents who didn't do anything wrong. I agree that what you do should reflect who you are and only you. But when you make those decisions you need to think of the ones you care about. Needless to say, Aunt Alexandra is being ridiculous because Scout doesn't really do anything wrong except be herself. I'm just saying she can't go off and jab someone in the leg with scissors or be disrespectful to teachers. 

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On May 6, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

In Chapter 13, Aunt Alexandra tries to impress upon Jem and Scout the importance of family heritage. Scout responds that she “had received the impression that Fine Folks were people who did the best they could with the sense they had, but Aunt Alexandra was of the opinion, obliquely expressed, that the longer a family had been squatting on one patch of land the finer it was.” Which opinion—Scout’s idea that it’s what you do that makes you who you are versus Aunt Alexandra’s opinion that it’s the family you’re born into—is closer to your own?

Either way, do you think people are judged according to their breeding/family background?

[Jansen Rees]

I agree with Scout's opinion. I do not believe people are who they are based on their family. Yes, they do learn a lot of things from them and, a lot of the time, your personality is formed based on your family, but that is not always the case. For example, your dad could be a   Serial killer, but that doesn't mean you are going to be one too. Your personality can be formed by the situation you live in, but you always have the chance to leave or change that. 

Yes, I do believe that people judge others according to their family, but that is just how life is. 

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On May 6, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

In Chapter 13, Aunt Alexandra tries to impress upon Jem and Scout the importance of family heritage. Scout responds that she “had received the impression that Fine Folks were people who did the best they could with the sense they had, but Aunt Alexandra was of the opinion, obliquely expressed, that the longer a family had been squatting on one patch of land the finer it was.” Which opinion—Scout’s idea that it’s what you do that makes you who you are versus Aunt Alexandra’s opinion that it’s the family you’re born into—is closer to your own?

Either way, do you think people are judged according to their breeding/family background?

[Kennedy Curley]

I agree with Alison that your family background shouldn't define you. I'm not like my family members. I'm the only one from my mom's side of the family who was born in Texas, and things are different here than they are where they live. I shouldn't be judged like them because I don't live the same lifestyle as them. We don't have the same interests or really anything in common. Also, I think all of our families have those members who are a little weird or crazy. That doesn't mean that everyone in that family is weird and crazy, that just means that person is. If we judged one person based on their family, we would have a lot of bad things to say about them just because of some bad people in their family that they might not even like. Unfortunately, some people are judged based on their family. It's probably not right, but that's what it is sometimes.

[Caroline McCoy]

My opinion is the same as Scout's view of what you do makes you who you are. You are the one who decides what you do in life and what choices you will make, and even though others may tell you what to do and you go along with what they say, you are the one who is going along with it. Now people's opinions of others could easily come from what they know of the family you are born into but if that's not who you are, you are going to have change their impression of you. Of course people judge others by their family history or background but it doesn't mean that you can't change their opinion of you or someone in your family. We've heard the expression "like father like son" or "the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree" and of course that happens with some families, but it doesn't mean that the complete opposite can't or won't happen.

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Subject: Nature vs. Nurture

In Chapter 13, Aunt Alexandra tries to impress upon Jem and Scout the importance of family heritage. Scout responds that she “had received the impression that Fine Folks were people who did the best they could with the sense they had, but Aunt Alexandra was of the opinion, obliquely expressed, that the longer a family had been squatting on one patch of land the finer it was.” Which opinion—Scout’s idea that it’s what you do that makes you who you are versus Aunt Alexandra’s opinion that it’s the family you’re born into—is closer to your own?

Either way, do you think people are judged according to their breeding/family background?

[Caroline McCoy]

I agree with Meagan that because Maycomb is such a small town that what one person does reflects not only on who they are but also on their family. Of course it isn't fair that if you make a bad decision or someone else does that it reflects on others, but we know that's just how it is. But Meagan, regardless whether or not it reflects on others, do you think that what you do makes you who you are or that it's not what you do but rather your family? I just view those two things a bit differently, but I feel that your point is correct.

[Emma Preston]

I definitely side with Scout on this one. Just because someone you are related to does something wrong or improper does not mean that you should be viewed negatively as well. I do, however, believe that Aunt Alexandra's opinion is closer to what happens in reality. Everybody knows everybody else's business in Maycomb, and each family has different characteristics attached to them, based on the family as a whole, and not necessarily each individual member. When Scout tries to explain to Ms. Caroline why she shouldn't lend Walter Cunningham money for his lunch, she knows this because "he's a Cunningham" and everyone in Maycomb knows that Cunninghams don’t borrow money. 

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

In Chapter 13, Aunt Alexandra tries to impress upon Jem and Scout the importance of family heritage. Scout responds that she “had received the impression that Fine Folks were people who did the best they could with the sense they had, but Aunt Alexandra was of the opinion, obliquely expressed, that the longer a family had been squatting on one patch of land the finer it was.” Which opinion—Scout’s idea that it’s what you do that makes you who you are versus Aunt Alexandra’s opinion that it’s the family you’re born into—is closer to your own?

Either way, do you think people are judged according to their breeding/family background?

[zulrich]

It's the old "Back in my day..." you get all the time from your parents that most of the time I just don't want to hear, unless it's something I'm really interested in it. But I really like what you have to say about your family not defining you, and I could not agree more. If my parents said I could not go off and work on movies like I want to, I would not know what else I would do with myself. Maybe make videos for peoples' entertainment, but I wouldn't be having as much fun as I would want to.

[Wil Kahlich]

I think that Scout is beyond correct in this situation. Alexandra is one of those people that think background makes a person. HOW DOES THAT EVEN MAKE SENSE? A person is their own person, not an object of their family's reputation. We really get to see both sided of a small town in this book: the comfort and the ignorance. It takes the innocent views of a child to bring any sense to some people you can find in rural towns. Now while a certain trend can be found among families, you cannot judge them on what other people have done.

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

In Chapter 13, Aunt Alexandra tries to impress upon Jem and Scout the importance of family heritage. Scout responds that she “had received the impression that Fine Folks were people who did the best they could with the sense they had, but Aunt Alexandra was of the opinion, obliquely expressed, that the longer a family had been squatting on one patch of land the finer it was.” Which opinion—Scout’s idea that it’s what you do that makes you who you are versus Aunt Alexandra’s opinion that it’s the family you’re born into—is closer to your own?

Either way, do you think people are judged according to their breeding/family background?

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[Caren Aguilar]

I think that it's all about the actions that you do in life rather then what your family did to hold their head up high. If a person was judged by their heritage, then wouldn't the ewell's have more power then they have, after all they have been on the same patch of land for generations, unlike other people in Maycomb county are, if we are to assume that what Aunt Alexandra is right, you know. 

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[Amy Schmitt]

I agree with you Meagan! I like how you note that the small town makes a huge difference. I like how you used the Radley's as an example as well. The Radley's are a perfect example of an action's affect on family because the way people avoid the entire house at the beginning of the book even though Boo supposedly lives in the court house basement. I agree that it isn't fair for others to be judged by association, it isn't like humans can't control one another. You're right Meagan, if Scout is being herself and isn't stepping on people's toes, then it shouldn't be a problem for her Aunt Alexandra. 

[dali...@gmail.com]

Alex,

I agree that sometines young children are judged by their family history. Am also closer to Scout's idea that some should be judged by who they are and what they do. I guess its easy for some to judge people for what their family does, specially if its some one young because you really haven't seen that person do much. Still it is not right and it is what you do that makes you who you are. In the end, just because my family likes to draw doesn't mean am an artistic person. Sadly this is not as simple as that and people, like Aunt Alexandra, think its fine to judge someone according to their family and that if my family likes to draw I have to be an artistic child.

~GABY

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My opinion is closer to Scout's, that you should judge a person by their individual actions and not their family. I do believe that family goes into account into who you are because you grow up with your family and they influence you, but you can still do what is right if your family does something that is wrong or teaches you wrong. I think young adults to adults are judged by their own decisions and actions because they are old enough to think for themselves and make their own decisions. Younger children and kids are judged by their family because at a young age you don't have a large perspective, just your family's and your thoughts and decisions are more influenced by your family than by your own thoughts.

On May 6, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In Chapter 13, Aunt Alexandra tries to impress upon Jem and Scout the importance of family heritage. Scout responds that she ?had received the impression that Fine Folks were people who did the best they could with the sense they had, but Aunt Alexandra was of the opinion, obliquely expressed, that the longer a family had been squatting on one patch of land the finer it was.? Which opinion?Scout?s idea that it?s what you do that makes you who you are versus Aunt Alexandra?s opinion that it?s the family you?re born into?is closer to your own?

[Ashley Muchin]

I totally agree with Scout. If people were who they are based on their breed, then life would never change and our views would never change. Some people don't want to be like their parents when they grow up, so they try and change themselves. Therefore, they are who they are based on what they do, and not on their breed. Some people really do judge others by their family's reputation. But that doesn't mean that they are right.

On May 6, 2013 3:04 PM, "Alex Gandy" <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

In Chapter 13, Aunt Alexandra tries to impress upon Jem and Scout the importance of family heritage. Scout responds that she “had received the impression that Fine Folks were people who did the best they could with the sense they had, but Aunt Alexandra was of the opinion, obliquely expressed, that the longer a family had been squatting on one patch of land the finer it was.” Which opinion—Scout’s idea that it’s what you do that makes you who you are versus Aunt Alexandra’s opinion that it’s the family you’re born into—is closer to your own?

Either way, do you think people are judged according to their breeding/family background?

[Siqi Huang]

I'm on Scout's side too but there are a lot of examples where the family you grow up with influences you. There are natural behaviors and abilities that people are born with. How they tend to look toward one solution is an amalgamation of raw characteristics and extrinsic environments. Celebrities, in this case, that have developed eccentric tastes are influenced by the things around them. Their childhood is a major factor to who they are today and of course, you can't forget about their families whether they've contributed their kid positively or negatively.

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