Unlikely Hero

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Alex Gandy

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May 6, 2013, 4:03:15 PM5/6/13
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Jem and Scout are critical of their father’s age, his profession, and the fact that he never did “anything that could possibly arouse the admiration of anyone.”  Chapter 10 changes this attitude, so much so that Jem states, “Atticus is real old, but I wouldn’t care if he couldn’t do anything - I wouldn’t care if he couldn’t do a blessed thing.”  


First, explain why Jem’s outlook on Atticus changed from one of embarrassment to one of adoration - why does Atticus become an unlikely hero for his son?  


Now think about you - who is someone in your own life who is an unlikely hero, someone who might not appear “heroic” to others but is to you?  How did they gain this status?


Ali Quarles

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May 6, 2013, 4:54:03 PM5/6/13
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I think Jem changes his attitude towards Atticus because he realizes that just because Atticus can't do what the "younger" adults can, he realizes how his father is talented in other ways, that not only gets his admiration from the children, but also from the adults. My mother is my hero. She can not bungy jump or she has not saved the world from world hunger, but she works so hard to provide for my family. She is the strongest women I know.

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Katharine Jovicich

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May 6, 2013, 5:16:48 PM5/6/13
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Jem changes his point of view on his father because he is imprest about how well Atticus can shoot a rifle.
My dad has been a hidden hero in my life because school didn't come easy to him and he was one of those kids not likely to succeed in life or go to collage. He did go to college and then when I was a baby he went back to get his masters degree. He's really knowledgble and loves learning new things. He is a hidden hero in my life.

Meagan Kelly

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May 6, 2013, 11:01:25 PM5/6/13
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Katharine, do you believe that that is all they are proud of and that that's what changes their mind about their father? I was just wondering if there was something else that made you think this because just like your dad he is knowledgable. I was thinking that maybe they changed their point of view when he was talking about Mrs. Dubose and how she was courageous and how they need to stop hating her. Though they didn't understand at the time, they later learned the reasons for her death. 

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Shaye Murray

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May 8, 2013, 8:58:08 PM5/8/13
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I kinda felt the same way Meagan. When Atticus was explaining to them about how he thought so much of Mrs. Dubose and how he admired her and how much courage she had; she was an unlikely hero of Atticus's, and I think that opened Jem and Scout's eyes and made them realize that anyone can be a hero and it doesn't depend on whether they've done some fantastic or heroic. They could see the sincerity in Atticus when he talked of his admiration for her and they understood how a women who was able to persevere and survive could be something of a hero.

Katharine Jovicich

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May 8, 2013, 11:56:42 PM5/8/13
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Megan! Response-
Your right the Atticisms that we mark in our books and when Atticus is telling Scout to hold her head high and not defend him is also showing heroism. Teaching Scout morals and how to be ....(I can't think of the right word) kind or mature in tough situations is also a time where Atticus is an unlikely hero.
Atticus is a hero to Jem because as we see Jem try s his darndest to please Atticus by not even shooting birds but tin cans instead.
Both of his children look up to him and know he's a hero even if others don't see that because he's defending Tom.
PS: I'm reading the trial now and the Ewells are bugging me (ALOT!)

reese.svetgoff

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May 10, 2013, 6:57:29 AM5/10/13
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I agree with Meagan that Atticus being a good shot wasn't the only thing that changed their mind. At, first Scout and Jem just wanted their father to be like all the other fathers in Maycomb. Although, now that they realize, Atticus is not the average father, they no longer hold him to the same standards, Atticus has the ability to shot down anything with one shot, see the good in anyone, and take on "impossible cases." This is why Atticus becomes an unlikely hero for his son Jem.

Alex Olazaran

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May 10, 2013, 4:47:02 PM5/10/13
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I agree with Alison that Jem changes his point of view because Atticus is talented in other ways. Jem and Scout both thought Atticus was just a boring old man, but they were not aware of his talents because he didn't brag about them or show them off. I think that was also a large reason that Jem respected Atticus more because he wasn't showing off or being conceited about being "One Shot Finch", he didn't even tell his children! This humility and unconventional skill caused the attitude change in Jem.

Sarah Park

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May 10, 2013, 5:01:36 PM5/10/13
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At first, Jem was embarrassed and disappointed in Atticus because he believed that he had no skill and was just a plain, ordinary state legislator. However, once he found out that Atticus had the skill in shooting, he changes his attitude. But, after he finds out that Atticus had that skill, he later said that he didn't care that Atticus had no skill, he would still adore him. He says this because he realizes that not all heros need to have a power. They are humble, considerate, and selfless, which Atticus has.


In my life, I've met people who are full of themselves, selfish, and arrogant. They have a special talent and power that they are extremely good at and can benefit others. For instance, I know someone who is currently in the army. He was someone that I never thought would actually be a hero to me. He is strong and muscular, able to fight through pain, and can withhold many tough situations. He may seem 'heroic' because he fights for our country, but I find him as a hero because he is brave and thoughtful. He didn't join the army for the money, for the fame and glory, but he joined because of his own will. He wanted to become stronger in his mind. He is the most passionate and caring person I know, and he doesn't brag about himself. A hero to me does not mean that they have superpowers, but superpowers in their hearts, like Atticus.

Meagan Kelly

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May 10, 2013, 5:03:54 PM5/10/13
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Katharine, I totally agree with you one how the Ewells are bugging you. But I'm sure we will talk about it later. Shaye, I think it's so cool that even though Mrs. Dubose was a mean woman, at least to his kids, but he was still very kind to her. I think he understood that she was trying to "free herself" and by doing so that would put her in a bad mood, meaning she would be more aggressive than usual. Because when you take yourself off drugs it makes you more mean than you would be because of the drug withdrawal. Scout and Jem don't understand that though so when they see Atticus being nice to her and visiting her then they realize that she isn't a bad woman, just a woman who was trying to free herself. 

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Kennedy Curley

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May 10, 2013, 5:10:19 PM5/10/13
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At first, Jem and Scout were embarrassed of their father because he wasn't as fun as the other fathers, and they didn't know about Atticus' talents but knew about other the talents of other kids' fathers. Now, Jem and Scout not only see that their father has a talent but that he's not boastful about it either. That's why Jem was jubilant about Atticus being a gentleman at the end of chapter 10. My brother is my hero. Throughout my life, he's been the one who has taught me how to be a man after practically having to teach himself, and his work ethic has been very impactful to me.

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Blake Grabsky

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May 10, 2013, 5:10:44 PM5/10/13
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I really liked what you said, Sarah. It loved what you said about Jem realizing that not all heroes need to have power. Now that I look back on it, I completely agree with your analysis. Jem always looked up to his father with the highest respect, and he realized that no matter what skills his father has, he'll look up to him the same. So, Jem's realization of Atticus's skills affected him differently than Scout. Jem didn't change his view on his father. Scout was at first unimpressed by Atticus, but her realization of his skills changed her view on him.
I think this part of the chapter shows us how different Jem and Scout are because they have the same father, but they think of them in a different way.

Igor Do Nascimento

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May 10, 2013, 5:11:18 PM5/10/13
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I think that just as scout tells in the book, the older Jem gets the wiser he is. He is becoming able to understand more things, things that to scout right now seems a little bit complex and with no particular meaning, and understand Atticus more. I believe that Jem changed his attitude  and the way he looks at atticus based on the fact that Atticus can do many other things, but he is not that stupid guy who is always showing off and being a jerk. he changes his views because even if Atticus could do anything in the world it wouldn't matter, because Atticus will always be Atticus and nothing will change him. and i think that finally he understand the challenge his father is facing just by defending Tom Robinson, which shows Jem how courageous Atticus is.
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Particularly an unlike hero i have was my step granpa. When my grandma got divorced from my grandpa, my step grandpa took us in and educated, fed, clothed and taught me and my cousins many things. i grew up looking up to him, and i still do, even though i don't have his presence anymore.


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Mikayla Lewison

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May 10, 2013, 6:22:12 PM5/10/13
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I agree with Igor. When you get older, you obtain knowledge easier and therefore get smarter. You can perceive many situations differently than you did when you were younger. Since scout is younger, but yes she has a harder time understanding. Jem did in fact change the way he thinks about Atticus because they now know all the "cool fatherly" stuff that they thought their father never did. Atticus will always stay more mellow now that he's fifty or so, but Jem finally can see his father is an intelligent man.


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Jansen Rees

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May 10, 2013, 6:44:09 PM5/10/13
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I agree with Igor because I also think Jem is becoming wiser and is starting to understand things more. He starts to realize Atticus is a lot more than just a state legislator. He is starting to see things in a different perspective and is starting to see the little things that Atticus does. I also agree with Sarah. I like when she says that not all heroes have to have a super power. Like she says, Jem starts to see the humbleness and selflessness in Atticus and that's what makes him adore Atticus that much more. 

Gissel Glez

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May 10, 2013, 9:31:31 PM5/10/13
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Alison has a really good point about Jem changing his attitude toward Attitus. He can realize that Atticus has talent in many ways and even when he is not as young as the other adults. Jem changed his perspective about him because of the fact that he knows what Atticus is passing through and knows that he has so many abilities that are gifted to him. Atticus also gives Jem a reason to look up at him such as him being brave. Either way I can also understand that mothers gives whatever to keep their children with what they need and loves them. 



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Charlie Tapken

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Jems out look in Atticus changes because Jem begins to see that Atticus is "cool" like the other parents just in his own way. Jem always respects and looks up to Atticus but was disappointed that he didn't do anything and was boring and not like the other parents.  When Jem sees that Atticus was the only one who could do something in the town his respect and adornment rose and his embarrassment went away. We all have someone that we look up to and adore and this just made Jem look up to Atticus more. 
 My unlikely hero would have to be my grandma. She is always there through everything no matter how tough things get. She always pushes me and inspires me to be the best person I can be. She makes me want to be the best person I can be and I wouldn't be that with out her helping me through everything. She has been with me and made it through some of the hardest things to go through. I can always count on her for anything. The main reason she in my unlikely hero is that in 1999 she was diagnosed with cancer. She was always told that she wouldn't be able to make it and she would lose the fight soon. She didn't listen to them and continued to fight through it and now she is still with us now 15 years later. She proved everyone wrong and fought the hardest fight of her life and won. She is the strongest person I've ever met. She's the person I look up too. She is my hero and always will be. 

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Gissel Glez

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Jem seems to have changed his point of embarrassment to adoration for Atticus his father and so has Scout. Atticus with his profession made his sons think and to have different views of him but as things happened in the book they changed the way they looked at him to one of admiration as Atticus showed how brave he actually is even when he is not in the younger age as the other adults. Atticus becomes a hero for his son as Jem sees how he defends Tom Jonson and sees the abilities he has that they never thought he would have had before.

            My hero would be my mom, she has passed through so much with my siblings and I. my mom would do anything for us to be happy. She got to be my heroes since I was a little girl because from what she has told me it was hard for her to keep up with my bigger sister and bothers before my sister and I were born. As her sometimes not having enough money to buy food but she would find ways to feed them anyway and she never left my sister and bothers without any food. That’s why she’s a hero to me.

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I believe that what changed Jem's impression about Atticus is not the fact that he can shoot but the fact that he knows that his talent is unfair and he is not proud of it. Its hard to say who my hero would be, but I believe that my sister is my hero. Even though she did bad things and made the wrong choises, she is the kindest most amazing human being I know. Her innocense and understanding is what makes her my hero. Her ability to forgive and love is so wonderful. All her cualities teach me something and I always learn that we should be kind and love others. She makes me learn that even when others make mistakes, that is not what you defines them, is their hard work and effort that counts.
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Jem and Scout are critical of their father?s age, his profession, and the
fact that he never did ?anything that could possibly arouse the admiration
of anyone.? Chapter 10 changes this attitude, so much so that Jem states,
?Atticus is real old, but I wouldn?t care if he couldn?t do anything - I
wouldn?t care if he couldn?t do a blessed thing.?

First, explain why Jem?s outlook on Atticus changed from one of
embarrassment to one of adoration - why does Atticus become an unlikely
hero for his son?

Now think about you - who is someone in your own life who is an unlikely
hero, someone who might not appear ?heroic? to others but is to you? How
did they gain this status?

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Caren Aguilar

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May 11, 2013, 12:08:31 AM5/11/13
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Jem's expression towards his dad has always been a good one, but, after the mad dog incident, he believes that now Atticus can do sooo much more then he dose, but just doesn't want to show it off to anyone anymore, and that, towards Jem, is a sign of true admiration. If I had to pick someone to be my unlikely hero it would ether be my sister, because she always has my back, or my friend dlanie, who never stups so low as to brag about her artwork much, even though she's like the greatest artist I have ever known, but that's besides the point, the point is, she's modest and I admire her for that.


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Robert Cooper Flickinger

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May 13, 2013, 10:34:41 AM5/13/13
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When Jem says this it really shows how much his respect grows for Atticus through chapter 10. He sees one shot finch and his respect, and want to make him proud goes through the roof. When Jem says this it just shows how much he loves Atticus and how nothing can change that.

On Monday, May 6, 2013, Alex Gandy wrote:

Jem and Scout are critical of their father’s age, his profession, and the fact that he never did “anything that could possibly arouse the admiration of anyone.”  Chapter 10 changes this attitude, so much so that Jem states, “Atticus is real old, but I wouldn’t care if he couldn’t do anything - I wouldn’t care if he couldn’t do a blessed thing.”  


First, explain why Jem’s outlook on Atticus changed from one of embarrassment to one of adoration - why does Atticus become an unlikely hero for his son?  


Now think about you - who is someone in your own life who is an unlikely hero, someone who might not appear “heroic” to others but is to you?  How did they gain this status?


Siqi Huang

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May 14, 2013, 12:29:22 AM5/14/13
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I completely feel you Alison, because I used to be like Jem, who was kind of dissapointed at what my dad could do. He's too old to sports, likes walking and wears glasses. I don't see much difference between him and Atticus. Haha. I would always compare my dad with others and thought how he was never too emotional and always too calm. There were times where I tried to provoke him, I didn't care if I've angered or humored him I just wanted something out of him. Over the years of living under a single parent, I eventually realized that life in his shoes wasn't always easy. Yes I've made him cry and I've regretted for doing that because that moment sucked up my thirst for more and contradicted my earlier opinions about him. And I'm still working on the humorous side ;)

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