Week 3 - Favorite Atticusism

[Alex Gandy]

Atticus gives advice but always in roundabout ways, never strictly telling his children what to do or think. What is your favorite piece of Atticus advice, your favorite Atticusism, throughout the novel? Cite it, put it in your own words, and explain why you chose it. (I know it will be hard to pick!)

[Caroline McCoy]

My favorite Atticusism has always been "I wanted you to see what real courage is, instead of getting the idea that courage is a man with a gun in his hand. It's when you know you're licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see through it no matter what. You rarely win, but sometimes you do. Mrs. Dubose won, all ninety-eight pounds of her. According to her views. She died beholden to nothing and nobody. She was the bravest person I ever knew." (This quote is at the very end of Ch. 11) It's basically just talking about how no matter what, courage isn't taking any weapon or anything like that but standing up for what is right and what you believe in. You could be trying out for something and whether or not you have a good chance of making it, at least you'll have the experience and try your best. It may seem like you won't make it, but who knows, you actually could. Even though I don't care for Mrs. Dubose, she's still a good example. She wanted to die without relying on medication or anything else, and of course it was painful, but she did. She knew anything could happen but that didn't stop her.

On May 22, 2013, at 2:57 AM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

Atticus gives advice but always in roundabout ways, never strictly telling his children what to do or think. What is your favorite piece of Atticus advice, your favorite Atticusism, throughout the novel? Cite it, put it in your own words, and explain why you chose it. (I know it will be hard to pick!)

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[Sarah Park]

Personally, I love quotes and motivation. Atticus is good at showing these things in this book because he is a great role model for the 'perfect' person to want to become. My favorite Atticusism is #4, "I hope and pray I can get Jem and Scout through it without bitterness, and most of all, without catching Maycomb's usual disease" (Lee 88). This quote is pretty much saying, do what you think is right, and stand up for what you believe in. It doesn't matter what other people think or do, what you know is right is what is important. I think that in any situation, it is important to see both sides of a story, not just what other people think. I don't like to bandwagon ideas and things, I prefer to decide for myself what I think, not being ashamed of what other people think. At times, it can be hard to do, but like Atticus does, I hope to get through things that might not always be on the popular side.

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

Atticus gives advice but always in roundabout ways, never strictly telling his children what to do or think. What is your favorite piece of Atticus advice, your favorite Atticusism, throughout the novel? Cite it, put it in your own words, and explain why you chose it. (I know it will be hard to pick!)

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[Mikayla Lewison]

"I certainly am. I do my best to love everybody...I'm hard put, sometimes-baby, it's never an insult to be called what somebody thinks is a bad name. It just shows you how poor that person is, it doesn't hurt you. So you don't let Mrs. Dubose get you down. She has enough troubles of her own." (Atticusism #8 pg. 144-145).

I really like this Atticusism because it shows how he is his own person and is really independent. This is Atticusism #8 if anyone was unsure. This is saying that you need to own the name you're given and flaunt it proudly. You don't want anyone to get the impression that you are ashamed of what someone called you. You can't let the bad guy get to you! Let them think that the name "n***** lover" is a proud name. Atticus teaches us in this Atticusism to be proud of who you are. We need to evaluate the circumstances and try to understand why the person gave you that rude name. He never lets him effect him no matter how mean someone is to him. I really like that fact that he's so open and honest with his kids about the names people call him too.

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Subject: Week 3 - Favorite Atticusism

Atticus gives advice but always in roundabout ways, never strictly telling his children what to do or think. What is your favorite piece of Atticus advice, your favorite Atticusism, throughout the novel? Cite it, put it in your own words, and explain why you chose it. (I know it will be hard to pick!)

[Shaye Murray]

"I certainly am. I do my best to love everybody... I'm hard put, sometimes - baby, it's never an insult to be called what somebody thinks is a bad name. It just shows you how poor that person is, it doesn't hurt you." In this Atticusism he is explaining to Scout how you shouldn't let other people's opinions of you, or the things that they may call you affect you. All it does is show how insecure that person is and it doesn't hurt you unless you let it. I really like this because its a good lesson in not letting words hurt you. Not only does Atticus tell her not to be insulted, but he displays that by showing no offense to what he was called. 

On May 22, 2013, at 2:57 AM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

Atticus gives advice but always in roundabout ways, never strictly telling his children what to do or think. What is your favorite piece of Atticus advice, your favorite Atticusism, throughout the novel? Cite it, put it in your own words, and explain why you chose it. (I know it will be hard to pick!)

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[Alex Gandy]

Mine is long, but I have to type out the whole section because he says so much at one time, and it is all so important - to the book and to me personally.

"...sometimes we have to make the best of things, and the way we conduct ourselves when the chips are down - well, all I can say is, when you and Jem are grown, maybe you'll look back on this with some compassion and some feeling that I didn't let you down.  This case, Tom Robinson's case, is something that goes to the essence of a man's conscience - Scout, I couldn't go to church and worship God if I didn't help that man."

"Atticus, you must be wrong..."

"How's that?"

"Well, most folks seem to think they're right and you're wrong..."

"They're certainly entitled to think that, and they're entitled to full respect for their opinions, but before I can live with other folks I've got to live with myself.  The one thing that doesn't abide by majority rule is a person's conscience."

The reason I love this Atticusism is that it is so complicated to follow.  I have found myself, even over the last week, telling myself to do these very things, telling myself "Be more like Atticus!"  But it is so darn hard!  (I try to give myself some credit for trying and falling short)  One, I like that it has the message of persevering when things get hard - it encompasses the other Atticusism about trying even when you're licked (so I get a two for one here!).  I also love that in two separate places he reflects on the importance of being able to live with yourself - you have to choose what is right and stick with it regardless of any other influence around you.  You have to hold so strong to what you stand for that no matter what is against you, you keep going.  I have found that idea to be necessary many times in my life - it's about if I can hold my head high FOR ME, not if I can please those around me.

The really challenging part of this one is respecting people for their opinions, or at least that is typically the challenge for me.  My patience with mindless decisions is minimal - but I have to think about this quote and about the fact that Atticus respects everyone...and then I have to try myself.  Respect is so important and that this Atticusism has respect as its base makes it my favorite.

[Igor Do Nascimento]

"Gentlemen, a court is no better than each man of you sitting before me on this jury. A court is only as sound as its jury, and a jury is only as sound as the men who make it up."

I really like this quote because you can connect it to pretty much anything, to school, hospital, government, police station, even a house hold just as in comparison the Ewell or Cunninghams or Finches(meaning Atticus house)

[Alex Gandy]

Igor, can you explain that connection?  What do you mean that that quote connects to anything?  I think I get it...but I want to make sure!

[Blake Grabsky]

My favorite Atticusism is the one where Atticus tells Jem not to kill a mockingbird, and then Miss Maudie explains what Atticus said to Scout.
 
"Atticus said to Jem one day, 'Id rather you shot at tin cans in the back yard, but I know you'll go after birds. Shoot all the bluejays you want, if you can hit 'em, but remember it's a sin to kill a mockingbird'. That was the only time I ever heard Atticus say it was a sin to do something, and I asked Miss Maudie about it. 'Your father's right,' she said. 'Mockingbirds don't do one thing but make music for us to enjoy. They don't eat up people's gardens, don't nest in corncribs, they don't do one thing but sing their hearts out to us. That's why it's a sin to kill a mockingbird'" (Lee 103).

This Atticusism is saying that it's not okay to hurt or attack someone who's helpful or weaker than you are.

The lesson from this Atticusism can be seen multiple times in the book. It's first mentioned on a literal level. Miss Maudie explains that mockingbirds are helpful because they make music for them to enjoy. The mockingbirds represent something weaker than Jem because he has the power to kill them with a pull of the trigger. The lesson can be seen again in the trial, as Tom represents a mockingbird. Mr. Ewell and Mayella are more powerful than Tom because they're white and he's black. And they are attacking Tom by bringing him to court. Like Miss Maudie's explanation, Tom was actually helpful to the Ewells (he did work around their "house" for free) as mockingbirds are helpful to people, and he shouldn't be attacked as Jem shouldn't shoot mockingbirds.

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Finally, the lesson can be seen at the very end of them book where Scout realizes why they can't out Boo Radley as the one who killed Mr. Ewell. In this situation, Boo is the mockingbird and Scout is holding the gun. Outing Boo Radley as the one who killed Mr. Ewell would be like killing a mockingbird. Boo represents the mockingbird because he's weaker than the rest of people. He only know how to live as a recluse and outing him would give him much unwanted attention. He also represents a mockingbird because he's helpful. He gave Jem and Scout little presents in the hole in the tree, and he saved Jem and Scout's life when Mr. Ewell tried to attack them.

[Igor]

What I mean is that every kind of institution, will have either one person, or a group of people who is responsible for what is wrong and what is right! For example lets take Pearce. Pearce is one of the best school in our school district, but that is because we a solid "jury", in another words, teachers, principals, security. Because of these individuals we are able to see the world the way it is, but what if they were not that way? What if their judgement was as wrong as the jury at the Tom Robinson trial? My example can be used in pretty much anywhere you go, instead of schools , it could be the government, or the police, or our own parents, because they were the ones who decided what was wrong or right when we were about the same age as scout and we could not assimilate some things that were beyond our understanding!

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[Ali Quarles]

My favorite Atticusism is  "I hope and pray I can get Jem and Scout through it without bitterness, and most of all, without catching Maycomb's usual disease" (Lee 88). I think it shows how racism in society and how it causes bitterness. We hope children will stay innocent and stay under good influences through the rough time. If children get influenced at the wrong time, it will stay with them throughout there adulthood. It is a scary thought, but it happens. Atticus hopes to cast the best influence he can throughout the hard times they are about to go through.

Alison Marie Quarles

On May 22, 2013, at 2:57 AM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

Atticus gives advice but always in roundabout ways, never strictly telling his children what to do or think. What is your favorite piece of Atticus advice, your favorite Atticusism, throughout the novel? Cite it, put it in your own words, and explain why you chose it. (I know it will be hard to pick!)

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[Alexandra Olazaran]

My favorite Articusism is "You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view... Until you climb into his skin and walk around int it." I think this is because I personally find it difficult to relate to others, but it's a good reminder that not everyone is the same as you and not everyone would do the same thing as you. I think for TKAM this relates very well to how the Ewell's do things that we would all consider wrong, but in their situation, they felt it was the right thing to do. You don't necessarily have to like it, but you have to respect it.

On May 22, 2013, at 2:57 AM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

Atticus gives advice but always in roundabout ways, never strictly telling his children what to do or think. What is your favorite piece of Atticus advice, your favorite Atticusism, throughout the novel? Cite it, put it in your own words, and explain why you chose it. (I know it will be hard to pick!)

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[reese.svetgoff]

I agree with Caroline in that my favorite Atticusism is "I wanted to show you what real courage is, instead of getting the idea that courage is a man with a gun in his hand. It's when you know you're licked before before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what. You  rarely win, but sometimes you do. Mrs. Dubose won, all ninety-eight pounds of her. According to her views, she died beholden to nothing and nobody. She was the bravest person I ever knew." This is my favorite because it puts emphasis on the idea of never giving up, even against all odds. No matter what, there's always a chance, which is why Atticus believes you should always follow through with what you're doing 100%. I always try to live by this Atticusism. This is what true bravery is, following through with what you believe.

[Mikayla Lewison]

Alison, I like this one too, even though I already wrote my favorite Atticusism. This quote most definitely defines racism as bitter and distasteful. Parent's can only hope for the best for their kids, but they can't monitor their every move. Today, you hear stories on the news about how parents thought their kids were so innocent and happy, but they overdosed on drugs and died. Our parent can only do so much for us. They need to surround us with only positive influences. One bad discussion from teenage years can have a huge impact on us as adults.

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[Jacob Tanamachi]

My favorite Atticusism has got to be when he tells Scout and Jem that it is a sin to kill a mockingbird. Although what he says is somewhat lacking in depth and detail, the significance of it is revealed at the end of the story. Throughout the book, townspeople regarded Mr. Radley as strange or  sometimes even scary. Because of these assumptions, Jem and Scout do their best to avoid him. At the end of the story, Boo Radley ends up killing Mr. Ewell in order to save Jem and Scout. This also falls under the old saying "don't judge a book by its cover". When Miss Maudie explains why it is a sin to kill a Mockingbird, she says that they don't harm anyone or anything; all they do is make music for humans to enjoy. Boo Radley, although not exactly the best looking guy in town, can be compared exactly to a Mockingbird in the sense that he only does good for Scout and Jem - at the beginning when Miss Maudie's house catches on fire, and also at the end when Mr. Ewell tries to murder them.

[Wil Kahlich]

My favorite Atticusism is "Simply because we were licked a hundred years before we started is no reason for us not to try to win."(Lee 101)

Atticus is saying that an imminent "defeat" is no reason not to try to win some small victory. While they ultimately didn't win the trial, meaning that Tom went to jail, they did accomplish something: they started something. They broke the status quo. They got people thinking, and they made some people realize that what they had been brought up believing was wrong.

That is why this is my favorite Atticusism. Because it's an elegant way of saying "you may have won the battle, but not the war."

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[Meagan Kelly]

My favorite Atticusism is in page 120 in the big book is "they're certainly entitled to think that, and they're entitled to full respect for their opinions but before I can love with other folks I've got to live with myself. The one thing that doesn't abide by majority rule is a persons conscience." I like this because I feel like most people struggle with this concept, including me. It's hard to love yourself when people don't love you. Especially in Jem and Scouts situation, they know it will continue to get harder for them but they have to keep their heads up and show everyone that people's opinions doesn't matter. 

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[Kennedy Curley]

Mine is the same as Mikayla's and Shaye's. "I certainly am. I do my best to love everybody... I'm hard put, sometimes - baby, it's never an insult to be called what somebody thinks is a bad name. It just shows you how poor that person is, it doesn't hurt you." I like it because it teaches that other people's views and words directed towards you, or someone who's important to you in this case, aren't significant. As long as you're happy with yourself, you shouldn't be concerned with the opinion's of others, especially if the only motive for that other person is to hurt you.

[reese.svetgoff]

I also love the Atticusism " I certainly am. I do my best to love everybody... I'm hard put, sometimes- baby, it's never an insult to be called what somebody thinks is a bad name. It just shows you how poor that person is, it doesn't hurt you. So don't let Mrs. Dubose get you down. She has enough troubles of her own." I love this one so much because it once again shows how NOBLE Atticus is. He loves somebody for what their character is like, not the color of their skin. This is why he knows that he is in the right, because Tom's character is morally correct. This is why Atticus is so noble, he never insults anyone because he believes that an insult reflects poorly on the person themselves. This is an Atticusism I hope I can live by.

On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:57:05 AM UTC-5, Alex Gandy wrote:

[Amy Schmitt]

My favorite Atticusism is definitely "...You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view- until you climb into his skin and walk around in it." on page 39. I love that quote because it applies to everyday life. I get so mad with others when I'm in an argument and it is difficult for me to do something but someone else doesn't understand and instead of taking a second to think about things from my point of view they just argue from theirs. Another reason I love the quote is because I wish that I could apply it all of the time! I tell myself that I look at other peoples' perspectives, but I know I don't always, and this Atticusism reminded me about trying harder to be more aware. If I can try to apply an Atticusism to my everyday life, then I know it is important to me.  

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[Caren Aguilar]

My favorite Atticusism is this"You know the truth and the truth is this: some
Negroes lie, some Negroes are immortal, some Negro men are not to be trusted around women-black or white. But this is a truth that applies to the human race and to no particular race of men."

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[Caren Aguilar]

The reason that my favorite Atticusism is the one during the trail part of the book( the one I quoited from on my first post, see first post for details) because it almost seems as though he knows Scout and Jim are there and is trying to teach them a lesson without them noticing it, like the scene of Scout over hearing Atticus and her uncle are speaking after she goes to bed (though this time nether of them knows that there is a lesson involved in what Atticus is saying for the children it's almost as if Atticus was sent to this earth for the soul perpose of teach kids lessons in life without meaning too,his own little secret talent. 

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[Jansen Rees]

All of the Attucusisms are very meaningful, but I think my favorite is Atticusism #1. This Atticusism is about stepping into someone else's shoes to see where they're really come from and to see their point of view of a situation. I think this is a very useful piece of advice and everyone should follow it. People tend to judge others without really knowing the other side of the story or where the person is coming from. If people took a few seconds to see the other side, the situation could turn out completely different. I also liked how this Atticusism is brought up throughout the novel. 

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

Atticus gives advice but always in roundabout ways, never strictly telling his children what to do or think. What is your favorite piece of Atticus advice, your favorite Atticusism, throughout the novel? Cite it, put it in your own words, and explain why you chose it. (I know it will be hard to pick!)

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[Sydney Kane]

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view . . . until you climb into his skin and walk around in it." This is my all time favorite "atticusism." I think it sums up the main point of what Atticus is trying to teach his children...that you really dont know what a person is going through until you put your self in their shoes, or skin as Atticus says it. He doesnt know what Tom is going through..because he has never been in that situation..but he understands...which is really the only thing Tom needs, for the people to understand him. Atticus has the ability that not many people have around this time period...which is sympathy, patience, and good morals. Its just shocking that it took people years to understand that whites were no different from blacks...when it took Atticus probably a split second. If every adult were like Atticus, there would be absolute peace across the earth. He is the PERFECT example of how a parent should be. 

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

Atticus gives advice but always in roundabout ways, never strictly telling his children what to do or think. What is your favorite piece of Atticus advice, your favorite Atticusism, throughout the novel? Cite it, put it in your own words, and explain why you chose it. (I know it will be hard to pick!)

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[Sydney Kane]

I agree with Mikayla on this one because its amazing how one choice can impact your life and future. Our parents can only hekp us so much...which is why we do have to learn and listen to them. Because there is going to be a time where your parents arent going to be there to help you with every step of life. One day you will have to grow up and learn from your mistakes. 

[Caleb Smith-Shaw]

My all-time favorite Atticusism is when he gives a speech in front of the jury before they made their decision. Atticus didn't try to appeal to the jury's emotion, he simply stated the obvious. My favorite part of Atticus' speech was on page 275 when he says "'I am confident that you gentlemen will review without passion  the evidence you have heard, come to a decision, and restore this defendant back to his family. In the name of God do your duty.'" Both Atticus and the jury know that Tom Robinson did not rape Mayella Ewell. The only thing standing in the way of the jury deciding to not convict Tom is their prejudice. Atticus is trying to convince them to not let their prejudices get in the way of their logic.

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[Ashley Muchin]

My favorite Atticusism is number 7.
“Well, most folks seem to think they're right and you're wrong. . . .”
“They're certainly entitled to think that, and they're entitled to full respect for their opinions,” said Atticus, “but before I can live with other folks I've got to live with myself. The one thing that doesn't abide by majority rule is a person's conscience.”

I can relate to this in many ways. I also think that people are entitled to they're opinions. Even though it is sometimes hard, I try to respect other people's opinions. I also agree that you have to live with yourself. I try to show this in me when I can. If you don't have pride in yourself, then how are you going to take what life throws at you. The world isn't exactly nice all the time.

[Gissel Glez]

My Favorite Atticusism through the book was “You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view -- until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.” (Lee 39) Because Atticus shows a lesson were he says that people don’t really understand you and will mostly never understand you from your point of view without being in your shoes. Atticus lesson was mostly about you understanding someone’s view in something and were people don’t actually think the same as others and having different views in things. This atticusism is also telling us that you would not understand until you live in that person’s body.

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[Siqi Huang]

"Some Negroes lie, some Negroes are immoral, some Negro men are not to be trusted around women -- black or white. But this is a truth that applies to the human race and to no particular race of men. There is not a person in this courtroom who has never told a lie, who has never done an immoral thing, and there is no man living who has never looked upon a woman without desire" (204).
This is about as acerbic as Atticus gets. I like this quote a lot because this is looking from a human perspective no matter the race and shows true justice. The number of 'some' and the contradicting 'never' that comes afterwards equalizes men. Court shouldn't be measured at race. Racism nowadays is understood even by little kids that it is wrong but Atticus had to fight to elaborate to adults that it is men vs. court not race. In the beginning he repetitively said 'some' to admit some who are accused are guilty. But not all, He explained that black men may result some sinful behaviors but so does many other white men. This time, he isn't standing from anybody's point of view but at a basic moral standard. Even though he knew he had no chance of winning the case, he attempted and spoke the truth. Only, he did it around 20 years ahead so not much wording moved the jury.

[Emma Preston]

I really liked the Atticus-ism we located at the very end of chapter 11, when Atticus says, "I wanted you to see what real courage is, instead of getting the idea that courage is a man with a gun in his hand." I like this Atticus-ism because it is an important and relevant lesson for the children to learn. They were excited when they learned that Atticus was good at something that they found impressive, but Atticus wants them to know that what he did was not what real courage is. He tells them, quite sensibly, that "…Mrs. Dubose won, all ninety-eight pounds of her. According to her views, she died beholden to nothing and nobody. She was the bravest person I ever knew," showing the children that although Mrs. Dubose may not have been called "Ol' One Shot", she did something that commands respect. 

[Katharine Jovicich]

"... we're fighting our friends. But remember this, no matter how bitter things get, there're still our friends and this is still our home" (Lee 104). My favorite part is "no matter how bitter things get, they're still our friends" because this should be true with close family and friends that you should never end a relationship because of something you don't see eye to eye on. the storm will blow over and its not worth the loss of speaking with family and friends. Also for Scout Atticus is reiterating not to get into a fight defending him. I chose this Atticusism because the Finch family is being judged and hateful things will be said and done. Even though these things happen they are our friends and we live here so the storm will pass over and they will realize they were wrong. In my own words I would say fighting a friend is tough, but we will get through this storm. We live here  and there are our friends. If they don't see our view as right they should talk to you and have you tell them why you chose to side that way.

[Robert Cooper Flickinger]

I wanted you to see what real courage is, instead of getting the idea that courage is a man with a gun in his hand.  It’s when you know you’re licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see through it no matter what.

this quote to me really is one of the best. It shows that courage doesnt come from an inanimate that can kill and that radiates the power of fear but the fact that you might be going up against that object or person knowing your going to loose and you just do it any way. that is real courage.

[dali...@gmail.com]

My favorite atticusism is the very first one.. "-until you climb into his skin and walk around in it." In my own words that means in order to understand how someone is or why he is acting the way he is, you must picture yourself in their situation (in his shoes). The reason I chose this quote is because that is what the book is trying to teach us. We are never going to understand why Bob, Mayella, Tom or even Atticus acted the way they did until we get in their situation, so that way we can at least get a clear idea of why they did what they did. Many of us don't understand why Boo stays in his house, but maybe the answer is simple, maybe he wants to stay inside. The truth is that until we walk around in his shoes we are never going to understand why. Am glad Scout got to understand.. "Atticus was right. One time he said you never really know a man until you stand in his shoes and walk around in them. Just standing in the Radley porch was enouh."

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Atticus gives advice but always in roundabout ways, never strictly telling
his children what to do or think. What is your favorite piece of Atticus
advice, your favorite Atticusism, throughout the novel? Cite it, put it in
your own words, and explain why you chose it. (I know it will be hard to
pick!)

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[Blake Grabsky]

I like what you said Siqi (on May 29, 2013, at 7:34 PM). I agree with the point about how today, little kids even know that racism is bad. We were able to teach them this because their minds are more easily changed. However, Atticus was combating grown adults on the issue of racism, so he had almost no chance to convert their view. But, Atticus tried anyway even though he knew he'd probably lose. This goes back to his Atticusism about courage - about how courage is when you dive head first into a situation that you aren't sure how it'll end up. Atticus tried REALLY hard to convince the jury even though he knew it probably wouldn't affect Tom's finding. BUT, it did make the jury take longer to convict him - a small baby step in the right direction.

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[Katharine Jovicich]

Blake-
This also ties to what Mr Raymond said by the tree when Dill ran from the court room to the tree fitting the trial. That assosiating with color folk is "wrong" in him generation but kids have different opinions and they can be taught that colored folks are the same. Its interesting because after all parents taught their kids that black folk are good even if others say something eles.

[dali...@gmail.com]

Emma,
I like the way you explained the true meaning of courage and I agree with you. I think that most people think that courage is doing shooting a gun or hurting some one to prove you are strong but really doing the right thing and standing for what you believe is the true meaning of courage. One thing I like about Atticus is that he is not proud of being called one shot Finch because he sees it as a disadvantage over most living things. I think it's brave of him to say that his god given talent is unfair.

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Date: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 7:44:02 pm
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From: "Emma Preston" <emma.pr...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Week 3 - Favorite Atticusism

I really liked the Atticus-ism we located at the very end of chapter 11,
when Atticus says, "I wanted you to see what real courage is, instead of
getting the idea that courage is a man with a gun in his hand." I like this
Atticus-ism because it is an important and relevant lesson for the children
to learn. They were excited when they learned that Atticus was good at
something that they found impressive, but Atticus wants them to know that
what he did was not what real courage is. He tells them, quite sensibly,

that "?Mrs. Dubose won, all ninety-eight pounds of her. According to her

views, she died beholden to nothing and nobody. She was the bravest person
I ever knew," showing the children that although Mrs. Dubose may not have
been called "Ol' One Shot", she did something that commands respect.

On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> Atticus gives advice but always in roundabout ways, never strictly telling
> his children what to do or think. What is your favorite piece of Atticus
> advice, your favorite Atticusism, throughout the novel? Cite it, put it in
> your own words, and explain why you chose it. (I know it will be hard to
> pick!)

> *

[Weston Smith]

I agree with both of you, and especially with what you said Blake. Children's minds are like clay they can easily be molded into what ever their parents or by the environment around them. I also like how Atticus, like you said, didn't back down from a challenge and continued to fight the jury, knowing he would lose, but he had confidence and courage to face them and not just give up.

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Subject: Re: Week 3 - Favorite Atticusism
From: bg32...@g.risd.org
Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 22:12:27 -0500
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[Owen Lee]

My favorite Atticusism, although it is cliché is when Atticus tells Jem that it is a sin to kill a mocking bird. Atticus seems so intelligent at this point and shows how much Jem looks up to him. After Atticus tells him this, Jem continues to shoot the tin cans when Atticus told him he could shoot down the other birds. I think this shows the respect Jem has for Atticus. 

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[Ethan Frechtman]

Alex, I agree with you on your choice of Atticusism. This was really the first Atticusism that we saw in the book, and it really sets the tone for the rest of the book regarding the plot and the lessons that I think Harper Lee was trying to convey to everyone. And while I dont believe that you should make decisions based on the points of view of other people, you should, as you said, respect them and take them into account.

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Alexandra Olazaran <alex.o...@gmail.com> wrote:

My favorite Articusism is "You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view... Until you climb into his skin and walk around int it." I think this is because I personally find it difficult to relate to others, but it's a good reminder that not everyone is the same as you and not everyone would do the same thing as you. I think for TKAM this relates very well to how the Ewell's do things that we would all consider wrong, but in their situation, they felt it was the right thing to do. You don't necessarily have to like it, but you have to respect it.

On May 22, 2013, at 2:57 AM, Alex Gandy <alexga...@gmail.com> wrote:

Atticus gives advice but always in roundabout ways, never strictly telling his children what to do or think. What is your favorite piece of Atticus advice, your favorite Atticusism, throughout the novel? Cite it, put it in your own words, and explain why you chose it. (I know it will be hard to pick!)

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