Ferris 3 alpha

[Jon Wayne Parrott]

Hello all,

Ferris 3 alpha is available and we're excited to hear your thoughts and feedback. The announcement, as well as resources for getting started, is at my blog here.

[Ken Kimball]

Great work!  After working on over 50 projects using Ferris 2, we were a little skeptical on how this would work for us.  Now that I've had a chance to review the documentation and samples, I see that Ferris 3 is a significant step forward.

Thank you very much for your hard work and opening up the source!

-Ken 

[Jon Wayne Parrott]

No problem. This community has been an enormous help in growing Ferris. The only reason I waited so long to release the source for 3 was because I kept moving things around and trying new things out- I didn't want to put it out there until it had settled a bit.

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[Robert Dodd]

I love the move to a toolkit instead of framework -- you've kept the ferris approach to building everything and it looks beautiful, light and powerful!

I'm going to use this. I never used Ferris 2 other than for fun but this will work with whatever I'm doing, especially API's.

Thanks Jon, I look forward to digging into this!

[Jon Wayne Parrott]

Thanks, Robert. Please let us know if you have any questions, feedback, or issues once you dig int. 

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[Robert Dodd]

Just wanted to let you know how it's going. 

I decided to learn Ferris3 and EmberJS at the same time to improve my full-stack development. However, ALL the work has been on EmberJS side -- setting up the API with Ferris3 took minutes. It was almost disappointing. :)

I'm having a good time with it, thanks!

[Jon Wayne Parrott]

Haha, that's fantastic to hear. Let us know if you run into any issue or if you have any recommendations for features.

[Abzal Serekov]

Dear Mr. Kimball:

Currently I want to create web app which is similar to internet shopping. I am thinking to use GAE instead of AWS and so on since it is easy to use. I have an experience on working with webapp2 on GAE. 

Now I have a question what is better: DJANGO or FERRIS for my purpose?

Could you please share your thoughts?

Thanks,

Abzal

среда, 8 октября 2014 г., 17:10:24 UTC+6 пользователь Ken Kimball написал:

[Jon Wayne Parrott]

Abzal,

Django has much wider adoption and likely already has multiple e-commerce extensions / plugin available. The great news is that you can use Ferris 3 and Django together. Ferris 3 provides tools for working with the datastore, memcache, search, oauth2, google APIs, and more - basically, Ferris 3 can help you with the things that are very unique to app engine's environment.

[Ken Kimball]

Hi Abzal,

Just a follow up on Jon's response -- My answer is "it depends".  What features does your app need?  Will it need an SQL db, or can you get by with the Datastore.  Does it need full text search?  

Because of it's limited NoSQL support, I haven't done much with Django.  As Jon pointed out, Ferris 3 can help with that; however you'll likely find that most of the pre-built Django components will require an SQL database.  

We wrote a simple ecommerce Plugin for Ferris 2.  It works, but due to it's limited feature set I don't see us using it much more than in the projects we already have.  Unless your needs are very basic, I recommend looking into the many open source ecommerce systems before creating your own.  

The open source ecommerce space seems to favor PHP and Ruby, although there are a some Python projects out there.  Check out http://quintagroup.com/cms/python/ecommerce for some examples.

With the new direction Ferris 3 has taken, we're moved our small app development to GAE-Init (https://github.com/gae-init/gae-init).

-Ken

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On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 4:01 AM, Abzal Serekov <abzal....@gmail.com> wrote:

[Yasser Bashir]

Hi guys,

Thank you for your comments on this thread. All very insightful.

I see very few commits on Ferris3 compared with gae-init. I would love to use ferris 3 but i feel like the progress is very slow and i am afraid that if i start my project on it, it may be a long time before it becomes production ready, if at all

gae-init on the other hand seems to have a bunch of bloatware that i dont really need.

Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Ken are you still using gae-init or have you tried switching to ferris and endpoints.

Thanks,

Yasser

[T Mst]

Yasser,

Yeah, It's suprising also to me to see very little activity on Ferris3. It seems like such a nice little framework. But I haven't yet looked at gae-init. Did you end up going to gae-init?

-Tom

[Ben Adrian Sarmiento]

Hi Yasser (and all),

These are words that came from Jon (Ferris' creator) himself:

"Ferris 3 is for all intents and purposes complete. The documentation is also finished. The only reason I had not released it outside of alpha is because we hadn’t had a lot of time to thoroughly test it. I highly recommend using it for projects that fit well into its use case (see below)."

I do encourage you to still push through with your intent of using Ferris 3 in your projects. Cloud Sherpas is taking time to continue the fantastic work that is made here in Ferris. There will be definitely be more good things to come for it.

[Yasser Bashir]

Thanks Ben.

[russomi]

+1 ... Ferris 3 is awesome!

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[T Mst]

Very nice. I had hoped this were the case. My evangelism has not been in vain. :-)

-Tom

[Zoozol Plex]

Well i just visited ferris2, where can i find the documentation for ferris3 ?

[Ben Adrian Sarmiento]

Here it is http://ferris-framework.appspot.com/docs3alpha/index.html

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