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Wayne

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Dec 4, 2025, 2:01:58 PM12/4/25
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Time: This Saturday at 11:00 AM to ~1:00 PM Pacific Time

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Meg McRoberts

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Dec 15, 2025, 11:53:48 PM12/15/25
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Have you guys seen this?  Amazon thought I might like it.
And no, I'm not planning to buy it -- I am perfectly capable
of cutting my own stick and installing it but am intrigued just
on general principles.  Would this be a good thing for a novice?





Just interested in your opinions...

Robert Lewis

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Dec 16, 2025, 12:05:44 AM12/16/25
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How many people would want to try and experiment with all that?  The time hit would be an issue for many!

Most newbie's would likely be trusting a friends recommendation.

Bob





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Meg McRoberts

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Dec 16, 2025, 12:34:28 AM12/16/25
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You know, I'm not so sure that all new Linux users are being referred by a
knowledgeable friend who can help them figure out what distro they want,
show them how to download the ISO and cut the stick.  I get the idea that
the younger kids are hearing about Linux and are curious but don't know
anyone who can help.

I wonder how good the documentation is that comes with this, to explain
that they have different distros here, give them a brief description, and
tell them how to boot from the USB stick to see what each looks like. 

I'm almost curious enough now to spend the $20 and order one just to
see what it is like.  I just ordered a new little laptop so I could even try
installing Ubuntu from it and see what happens.  Ha!

meg                                     

Wayne

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Dec 16, 2025, 10:25:17 AM12/16/25
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Why not just roll your own? Put Ventoy on the USB and load as many ISOs you want with the help of Distrowatch? Takes a small amount of work and thought, but if a person is unwilling to put a little effort into it, then Linux probably isn't for them.

Another option would be: https://distrosea.com/



On 12/15/25 9:34 PM, 'Meg McRoberts' via Felton LUG wrote:
> You know, I'm not so sure that all new Linux users are being referred by a
> knowledgeable friend who can help them figure out what distro they want,
> show them how to download the ISO and cut the stick.  I get the idea that
> the younger kids are hearing about Linux and are curious but don't know
> anyone who can help.
>
> I wonder how good the documentation is that comes with this, to explain
> that they have different distros here, give them a brief description, and
> tell them how to boot from the USB stick to see what each looks like.
>
> I'm almost curious enough now to spend the $20 and order one just to
> see what it is like.  I just ordered a new little laptop so I could even try
> installing Ubuntu from it and see what happens.  Ha!
>
> meg
>
> On Monday, December 15, 2025 at 09:05:43 PM PST, Robert Lewis <bob.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> How many people would want to try and experiment with all that?  The time hit would be an issue for many!
>
> Most newbie's would likely be trusting a friends recommendation.
>
> Bob
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>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2025, 8:53 PM 'Meg McRoberts' via Felton LUG <felto...@googlegroups.com <mailto:felto...@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>
> Have you guys seen this?  Amazon thought I might like it.
> And no, I'm not planning to buy it -- I am perfectly capable
> of cutting my own stick and installing it but am intrigued just
> on general principles.  Would this be a good thing for a novice?
>
> 64GB - 18-in-1, Bootable USB Drive 3.2 for Linux & Windows 11, Zorin | Mint | Kali | Ubuntu | Tails | Debian, Supported UEFI and Legacy <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BGHXHVM4/?ref_=pe_122214630_1327022930_AGH0200IMG_AGH03_cor_ci_mcx_mr_2p_0_lm>
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> 64GB - 18-in-1, Bootable USB Drive 3.2 for Linux & Windows 11, Zorin | M...
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> Include:1. Windows 11 64Bit 2. Archcraft 2025.04 3. Bodhi 7.0.0 4. Debian 12.11.0 5. Fedora 42 6. Fossapup 9.57...
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> Just interested in your opinions...
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Tech Elliott

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Dec 16, 2025, 1:10:55 PM12/16/25
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Well, most people want something that is plug and play and don't want to play around with stuff. Im thinking of my non-techy friends. If they could buy a USB with all the "hard stuff" already done for them, it may lower the barrier to entry for some. I think that this is not a bad option for the average person who doesn't know a Linux user or anyone who could help them with Linux

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Jeff Liebermann

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Dec 17, 2025, 12:26:24 AM12/17/25
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On 12/15/2025 8:53 PM, 'Meg McRoberts' via Felton LUG wrote:
Have you guys seen this?  Amazon thought I might like it.
And no, I'm not planning to buy it -- I am perfectly capable
of cutting my own stick and installing it but am intrigued just
on general principles.  Would this be a good thing for a novice?

Just interested in your opinions...

Quite useless methinks.  I got started in Linux by collecting CD's, each with a Linux distribution.  They were sold for a few dollars online or given away at Linux events.  I probably still have a fair number of these CD's in boxes and binders buried somewhere.  The problem was they would be obsolete on arrival.  We take for granted the ease of obtaining and installing upgrades.  That wasn't the case when I initially obtained these Linux CD's.  In place upgrades were rather sketchy in the mid 1990's and internet download speeds were very slow.  There were delays between hardware arrival and the availability of compatible drivers.  Meanwhile, the Linux version on a CDROM or bootable flash drive rapidly became obsolete.  For example, the "Light World Zoo" edition mentioned above has Linux Mint 22.1 while the latest (download) version is 22.2.  Why not just download and run the latest version from a flash drive?  Don't like it?  Just download some other Linux distribution and try again.

Anyway, if you want to test drive various Linux mutations, get a high speed internet connection and download/update as needed.  

Don't know which distribution to try?  Start searching at:
https://distrowatch.com


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Meg McRoberts

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Dec 17, 2025, 1:23:11 AM12/17/25
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I rather feel the same way you do, Jeff.  But, on reflection, I'm thinking about my
non-techie friends who have never used anything other than Windoze, iMac, and
now I guess the Android/iOS devices.  They buy a new machine, turn it on, have
to set up their user account and password for the machine and supply the password
to their wifi and they are pretty much ready to go.  And most of them still have a dreadful
time getting everything else set up -- they can do it but it's arduous and angst-inspriring
for them.

In comparison, getting started with Linux is pretty tough if they don't have help.  Download
the ISO, cut the stick, et cetera.  I notice that the Amazon video on this page shows them
how to get to the "Boot from USB".  It's a bit intimidating, don't you think?  Actually using
Linux isn't that hard these days -- most of these people only use the browser, really.

Also, back in the day when you installed Linux from CD, the person selling those CDs
would probably cut a bunch of them and then sell them until they were gone.  The fact
that this is on a USB stick means that they could have their image and quickly cut a new
USB when the order came in and ship it within an hour.  This does say that it has Ubuntu 25.04
so they are kind of keeping up.

I guess I'm sort of warming to the idea -- not for you or me or probably anyone on this list,
but an interesting idea for some people...  Not yet an advocate, but warming to the idea ;-)

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