StatusNet 0.9.5 released - we are ready for SWAT0 testing!

[James Walker]

Greetings everyone,

We just released StatusNet 0.9.5 which (amongst other additions), adds
what we feel is a SWAT0-ready implementation of OStatus. Checkout our
full announcement (and a demo screencast) here:

http://status.net/2010/09/10/statusnet-is-ready-for-swat0-testing

We are pretty excited to start testing with other OStatus
implementors, as well as seeing what other folks have come up with for
SWAT0.

If you're interested in OStatus-specific implementations, testing,
hammering through issues, etc - please use the OStatus mailing list -
http://groups.google.com/group/ostatus-discuss .

As the kids say.... w00t! :-)
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James Walker :: http://walkah.net/ :: http://james.status.net/

[Brett Slatkin]

Congratulations!

[Tuomas Koski]

Congratulations!!

And Tuomas says ... Cheers status.net !

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Tuomas

[Darren Bounds]

Great work guys! After checking out your screencast we have a couple
questions around the final portion of the SWAT exchange; specifically
how/why Tantek received Evan's response to Dave.

Just to clear up any confusion, would you guys mind laying out the
protocol requests involved in making this happen?

Darren

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darren bounds
dar...@cliqset.com

[Brett Slatkin]

I'd also like to know some details and how it compares to the strawman here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/4884073970/

[Evan Prodromou]

On Fri, 2010-09-10 at 11:58 -0700, Brett Slatkin wrote:

I'd also like to know some details and how it compares to the strawman here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/4884073970/

That's a good question.

The big difference is that, when Evan* comments, his server sends a Salmon slap to Dave's server. Everyone's pretty cool with that one.

We juggled around some options and figured the easiest thing was to send an additional slap to Tantek's machine. We now slap anyone who's mentioned in an activity that's replied to.

Cause we're slap-happy folks.

Anyways, I believe the strawman you gave has Evan's notice going out from Dave's server to Tantek's.

I personally got a little confused with this -- is Tantek subscribed to an additional feed just for comments, like in http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4685#section-4 ?

Or do those activities come through Dave's "regular" activity feed?

I think we're OK with different solutions -- this one just seemed like the easiest to get out the door.

-Evan

* The character, not real me.

Evan Prodromou, CEO StatusNet Inc., 1124 rue Marie-Anne Est #32, Montreal, QC H2J 2T5 T: 438-380-4801 x101 C: 514-554-3826 W: http://evan.status.net/ E: ev...@status.net

[Michael Sullivan]

woohoo!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOyDkwaUh-Y

:-)

[Brett Slatkin]

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Evan Prodromou <ev...@status.net> wrote:

On Fri, 2010-09-10 at 11:58 -0700, Brett Slatkin wrote:

I'd also like to know some details and how it compares to the strawman here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/4884073970/

That's a good question.

The big difference is that, when Evan* comments, his server sends a Salmon slap to Dave's server. Everyone's pretty cool with that one.

We juggled around some options and figured the easiest thing was to send an additional slap to Tantek's machine. We now slap anyone who's mentioned in an activity that's replied to.

Cause we're slap-happy folks.

Anyways, I believe the strawman you gave has Evan's notice going out from Dave's server to Tantek's.

I personally got a little confused with this -- is Tantek subscribed to an additional feed just for comments, like in http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4685#section-4 ?

Or do those activities come through Dave's "regular" activity feed?

Yeah it gets complex in this case. I only ironed this out in my mind after I speced out the potential workplan for Google Buzz.

In the Swat0 strawman Chris diagrammed, there would be a separate comments feed that the @mentioned person would implicitly subscribe to once they have been @mentioned. Thus the future comments on the initial @mention would be delivered over PubSubHubbub, not Salmon.

However, I believe *both* should work and at the same time because the Atom IDs should all resolve properly. Any dupes will just be wasted bandwidth.

 

I think we're OK with different solutions -- this one just seemed like the easiest to get out the door.

Works for me!

[Jon Phillips]

So who is on deck with the next video taking the SWAT0 challenge??? 20
more days until the SEPT 30 deadline :)

Jon

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[Kingsley Idehen]

On 9/10/10 4:02 PM, Jon Phillips wrote:
> So who is on deck with the next video taking the SWAT0 challenge??? 20
> more days until the SEPT 30 deadline :)

Hoping my WebID peeps will be set so that we can do this across
different WebID compliant platforms (rather than multiple instances of
one platform e.g. ODS).

Pingback instead of Salmon Slap.
PubSubHubbub for relaying changes.
Pingback for know reciprocation (so we can actually start at -1 i.e.
getting to know one another across social webs ).

Its coming, and will certainly beat 30th Sept deadline.

Only variable (right now) is whether its going to be across many ODS
instances (not my preference as per comments above) or multiple WebID
platforms from other WebID players :-)

Kingsley

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[Evan Prodromou]

On Fri, 2010-09-10 at 14:40 -0400, Darren Bounds wrote:

Great work guys! After checking out your screencast we have a couple
questions around the final portion of the SWAT exchange; specifically
how/why Tantek received Evan's response to Dave.

Just to clear up any confusion, would you guys mind laying out the
protocol requests involved in making this happen?

Darren,

Just wanted to check that you got my response to Brett: we do an extra Salmon slap to Tantek from Evan's site.

-Evan

[Evan Prodromou]

On Fri, 2010-09-10 at 20:28 +0200, Tuomas Koski wrote:

And Tuomas says ... Cheers status.net !

So when do we start testing with minime?

[Tuomas Koski]

Good morning, afternoon, night to all the timezones,

On 11 September 2010 04:12, Evan Prodromou <ev...@status.net> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2010-09-10 at 20:28 +0200, Tuomas Koski wrote:
>
> And Tuomas says ... Cheers status.net !
>
> So when do we start testing with minime?

8 hours ago. I just did not catch walkah from the irc channel last
night anymore.

I'll post a mail when the initial tests have been done.

Cheers,
--
Tuomas

[Darren Bounds]

I did. Thanks.

I'm having trouble reconciling systems that do and do not support commenting (e.g. Buzz, Cliqset, Status.net). I will to put together my thoughts in an email over the next couple days.

Darren

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darren bounds
dar...@cliqset.com

[Tuomas Koski]

Cheers,

Seems to be working nicely.

Cheers,
--
Tuomas

[Tuomas Koski]

Hi,

On 11 September 2010 11:05, Tuomas Koski <koski....@gmail.com> wrote:

I have never done a webcast before so please forgive me, but here we
go: I did a simple demo how "other systems" can work with the awesome
status.net platform using the Ostatus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CentvkNlUMY

Great work James, Evan, Brion and Zach!

Cheers,
--
Tuomas

[B. Kip]

Congratulations!

Brad

[Evan Prodromou]

On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 02:21 +0200, Tuomas Koski wrote:

I have never done a webcast before so please forgive me, but here we
go: I did a simple demo how "other systems" can work with the awesome
status.net platform using the Ostatus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CentvkNlUMY

Great work James, Evan, Brion and Zach!

Hey, so, I have to admit that I've watched this several times, but I've had a problem on my computer and video sound hasn't been playing. Got it fixed today, and got to hear the whole thing.

Very very cool! I'm excited to see this.

One minor factual correction that shouldn't matter much for the purposes of the demo is that we don't send Salmon slaps between accounts in the same StatusNet site; we just do all that stuff in-process instead.

[Tuomas Koski]

HI,

On 22 September 2010 17:56, Evan Prodromou <ev...@status.net> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 02:21 +0200, Tuomas Koski wrote:
>
> I have never done a webcast before so please forgive me, but here we
> go: I did a simple demo how "other systems" can work with the awesome
> status.net platform using the Ostatus:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CentvkNlUMY
>
> Great work James, Evan, Brion and Zach!
>
> Hey, so, I have to admit that I've watched this several times, but I've had a problem on my computer and video sound hasn't been playing. Got it fixed today, and got to hear the whole thing.
>
> Very very cool! I'm excited to see this.
>
> One minor factual correction that shouldn't matter much for the purposes of the demo is that we don't send Salmon slaps between accounts in the same StatusNet site; we just do all that stuff in-process instead.

Yeah, it was my first intention that the two status.net accounts would
have been in separate services. Of course I somehow managed to forgot
it and remembered it only when I had uploaded the video.

Maybe I can play and try to add those fancy comments to the videos ...

Cheers,
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Tumoas