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Appelquist, Daniel, VF-Group

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Jun 22, 2011, 9:11:35 AM6/22/11
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Hello Federated Social Web peeps -

I'm writing to let you all know what is happening with the OneSocialWeb
project. As many of you know, this project was originally conceived by
Laurent Eschenauer and Alard Weisscher in late 2009. Along with Diana Cheng
(and with some encouragement and cheerleading from myself and others in
Vodafone R&D) they built the project up as a prototype of what you could do
with XMPP in the federated social networking space. Unfortunately, due to
some circumstances out of all of our control, Laurent and Alard had to leave
Vodafone. At that point, we took the decision to continue the project with
myself and Diana. During the past year we have kept the project going,
including adding some new features (e.g. commenting) and we've also seen the
open source community around OneSocialWeb grow, with a few
community-developed clients (notably, the iPhone client). We've also
learned a lot about the federated social networking space both through the
project and through participation in the burgeoning community.

However, we have limited resources, and we have now taken the decision to
concentrate what time we can spend on the federated social Web in the area
of protocols and standards. This means we will not be actively updating the
code base for OneSocialWeb (server or client), nor will we be adding
features. We will Continue to work on the protocol, and will support any
implementers (such as ProcessOne) and collaborate with them to improve it
and expand it. Our intention is to contribute the work we have done on XMPP
extensions (e.g. Activity Streams over XMPP) into the relevant XMPP
technical committees.

Having said all that, all the code that has been produced is up there on
GitHub. I know that several projects have used the code to develop their
own prototypes. It's our view that the OneSocialWeb open source community
has not grown to the point where it can become self-sustaining, but if
anyone would like to step forward to take ownership of the code-base we
would be more than happy to discuss this.

As we stated in the summit in Berlin, we are committed to making the FSW
a reality, and we (Diana and I) will continue actively participating in the
FSW incubator group and list and will con tribute to all the XMPP social
specs, and not only OSW. We will also like to be there to facilitate in any
way we can the work and activities of the FSW community.

Thanks,
Dan Appelquist
Vodafone Group R&D

evan

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Jun 22, 2011, 9:53:05 AM6/22/11
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 15:11:35 +0200, "Appelquist, Daniel, VF-Group"
<Daniel.A...@vodafone.com> wrote:

> However, we have limited resources, and we have now taken the decision
to
> concentrate what time we can spend on the federated social Web in the
area
> of protocols and standards. This means we will not be actively updating
the
> code base for OneSocialWeb (server or client), nor will we be adding
> features. We will Continue to work on the protocol, and will support any
> implementers (such as ProcessOne) and collaborate with them to improve
it
> and expand it. Our intention is to contribute the work we have done on
> XMPP
> extensions (e.g. Activity Streams over XMPP) into the relevant XMPP
> technical committees.

Daniel,

Sorry to hear about this, but I think that this kind of change can be
extremely helpful for a project.

-Evan

Simon Tennant (buddycloud)

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Jun 22, 2011, 2:38:37 PM6/22/11
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I like the "what users want" part of that.

What I do fear is the one size fits all approach to these frameworks.
All services have some basic elements: activity streams, followers,
following, posts. Beyond that, they have very different business logic
and I've never seen anyone propose a solution and indeed don't think
it's often even possible to find an elegant mashing-together of the
different rules.

How would your framework deal with the different business logic between
sites/codebases?

S.


On 22/06/2011 16:06, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program wrote:
> Wouldn't a general framework for federating social webs based on what users want instead of a technology make more sense? Combining SIOC standards, OMA standards, SemWeb and open source standards and the enabling technologies should automatically follow.
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> From: Appelquist, Daniel, VF-Group <Daniel.A...@vodafone.com>
> Subject: OneSocialWeb Project Status
> To: "W3C Federated Social Web Incubator" <public-xg-fede...@w3.org>
> Cc: federated-...@googlegroups.com, onesoc...@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 1:11 PM
>
> Hello Federated Social Web peeps -
>
> I'm writing to let you all know what is happening with the OneSocialWeb
> project. As many of you know, this project was originally conceived by
> Laurent Eschenauer and Alard Weisscher in late 2009. Along with Diana Cheng
> (and with some encouragement and cheerleading from myself and others in
> Vodafone R&D) they built the project up as a prototype of what you could do
> with XMPP in the federated social networking space. Unfortunately, due to
> some circumstances out of all of our control, Laurent and Alard had to leave
> Vodafone. At that point, we took the decision to continue the project with
> myself and Diana. During the past year we have kept the project going,
> including adding some new features (e.g. commenting) and we've also seen the
> open source community around OneSocialWeb grow, with a few
> community-developed clients (notably, the iPhone client). We've also
> learned a lot about the federated social networking space both through the
> project and through participation in the burgeoning community.
>

> However, we have limited resources, and we have now taken the decision to
> concentrate what time we can spend on the federated social Web in the area
> of protocols and standards. This means we will not be actively updating the
> code base for OneSocialWeb (server or client), nor will we be adding
> features. We will Continue to work on the protocol, and will support any
> implementers (such as ProcessOne) and collaborate with them to improve it
> and expand it. Our intention is to contribute the work we have done on XMPP
> extensions (e.g. Activity Streams over XMPP) into the relevant XMPP
> technical committees.
>

> Having said all that, all the code that has been produced is up there on
> GitHub. I know that several projects have used the code to develop their
> own prototypes. It's our view that the OneSocialWeb open source community
> has not grown to the point where it can become self-sustaining, but if
> anyone would like to step forward to take ownership of the code-base we
> would be more than happy to discuss this.
>
> As we stated in the summit in Berlin, we are committed to making the FSW
> a reality, and we (Diana and I) will continue actively participating in the
> FSW incubator group and list and will con tribute to all the XMPP social
> specs, and not only OSW. We will also like to be there to facilitate in any
> way we can the work and activities of the FSW community.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan Appelquist
> Vodafone Group R&D
>


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Joey Guerra

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Jun 22, 2011, 3:15:27 PM6/22/11
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I think a homogenous approach with healthy collaboration is great for the evolution of "the next social network" though. The hard part is getting the healthy collaboration since we don't all know each other personally.
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