Xtrails asperating smoke detection

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Erick S

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May 30, 2019, 5:29:24 PM5/30/19
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Hi I am looking for a good example of an aspirating smoke detector.  Smoke detector rep is unclear what is need for lbs/cu ft and lbs/sec

Kevin McGrattan

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May 30, 2019, 5:55:11 PM5/30/19
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Samples\Detectors\aspiration_detector.fds

Erick S

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May 30, 2019, 6:35:14 PM5/30/19
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Hi Kevin,
Thanks for the example - you don't know of a white paper or something that explains the detectors?


On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 4:55:11 PM UTC-5, Kevin wrote:
Samples\Detectors\aspiration_detector.fds

Kevin McGrattan

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May 31, 2019, 7:28:11 AM5/31/19
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Xtralis literature? I've never worked with them myself. Jason Floyd knows more.

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Ben Ralph

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May 31, 2019, 7:39:21 AM5/31/19
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Honeywell (absorbed Xtralis and now produce VESDA) have a lot of literature on their site:


If you're looking for a general description of how ASD works, YouTube has some good videos to kick you off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=123&v=mzrGrl-qNUw or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MByARnIWsFo

Erick S

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May 31, 2019, 9:06:04 AM5/31/19
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Hi What I was looking for was a white paper or something that describes the aspiration detectors in FDS.  I am familiar with FDS spot type detectors but not the inputs needed for aspiration.  What is the mass flow rate of an insipient fire ?



On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 6:28:11 AM UTC-5, Kevin wrote:
Xtralis literature? I've never worked with them myself. Jason Floyd knows more.

On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 6:35 PM Erick S <erick.s...@hdrinc.com> wrote:
Hi Kevin,
Thanks for the example - you don't know of a white paper or something that explains the detectors?


On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 4:55:11 PM UTC-5, Kevin wrote:
Samples\Detectors\aspiration_detector.fds

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dr_jfloyd

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May 31, 2019, 9:14:23 AM5/31/19
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See the FDS User's Guide for a discussion of the inputs for an aspiration system. 

Bryan Klein

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May 20, 2021, 5:00:30 PM5/20/21
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I know this is an older thread, but my question is related.
Where does the Flow Rate value come from and is it dynamic in any way if the density of the gases at the sampling location change density?
Do you base the mass flow rate on the density of air?

-Bryan

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