The Colored Sacred Harp

[Haruo (Leland)]

I can't seem to find a copy of this work (any printing) available for less than about $150. How can it be that the publishers (i.e., of the reprints) have not reissued it? There's a PDF online, so I have some idea what the contents are like, but it contains only 22 of the nearly 100 pages that comprise the book, and 3 of the 22 pages are not songs. Anybody know what the copyright situation is?

http://general.utpb.edu/fac/keast_d/Tunebooks/tunebook/Colored%20Sacred%20Harp.pdf (the PDF referred to)
Amazon.com listing

Leland aka Haruo

[Wade Kotter]

Leland:

The first edition of this work was published I believe in 1934. Under a strict interpretation of current U.S. Copyright Law, this work is still under copyright even though the compiler has moved on to the heavenly hollow square. The copies available on Amazon are of the 1973 edition which is definitely still under copyright. The scan you linked to probably would fall under the fair use doctrine because it is incomplete. The compilers/publishers of this book were humble folk with relatively limited resources who published the book for a fairly narrow audience, many of whom have also gone on to their reward. Since most of the compilers/publishers/owners are no longer with us and there is no large scale audience for the book, it's not a surprise at all to me that no one has put forth the effort to reprint the book since 1973. It would take some individual or group with substantial funding (perhaps from a grant) to reprint the book; they would also have difficulty, I believe, in tracking down the appropriate individuals to ask their permission and to arrange for royalties. That said, it's possible that someone this list might have an extra copy they might be willing to sell to you, probably for much less than $150.

 

Wade Kotter
South Ogden, UT
"Make a Joyful Noise Unto the Lord"

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[t...@risingdove.com]

On 21 Nov 2013 at 12:35, Haruo (Leland) wrote:

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> I can't seem to find a copy of this work (any printing) available for less than about $150. How can
> it be that the publishers (i.e., of the reprints) have not reissued it? There's a PDF online, so I
> have some idea what the contents are like, but it contains only 22 of the nearly 100 pages that
> comprise the book, and 3 of the 22 pages are not songs. Anybody know what the copyright
> situation is?

The Washington, DC group has a bunch of these that we don't use. My wife and I will find
out whether the group would like to sell them for a reasonable price.

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[jfra...@mchsi.com]

When I first discovered Sacred Harp, in the 80s, I bought every book that was offered at singings.  I just pulled out my copy of The Colored Sacred Harp, probably purchased at Birmingham at the National Convention where the Wiregrass Singers were often present.  It has the following list of printings:  Second printing 1973 by H.J. Jackson, Ozark, Alabama; Third printing 1983 by H.J. Jackson, Ozark, Alabama; Revised edition 1973, printed by Paragon Press, Montgomery, Alabama; Second Revised edition 1983, printed by Brown Printing, Montgomery, Alabama.  All rights reserved.

I recall that "Florida Storm" was often led from that book.  Now, at my age, I need to be thinking about what to do with my books and would be willing to donate this to a good home for the cost of postage. 

Janet Fraembs
Charleston, Illinois

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----- "Wade Kotter" <wadek...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Leland:

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> The first edition of this work was published I believe in 1934. Under a strict interpretation of current U.S. Copyright Law, this work is still under copyright even though the compiler has moved on to the heavenly hollow square. The copies available on Amazon are of the 1973 edition which is definitely still under copyright. The scan you linked to probably would fall under the fair use doctrine because it is incomplete. The compilers/publishers of this book were humble folk with relatively limited resources who published the book for a fairly narrow audience, many of whom have also gone on to their reward. Since most of the compilers/publishers/owners are no longer with us and there is no large scale audience for the book, it's not a surprise at all to me that no one has put forth the effort to reprint the book since 1973. It would take some individual or group with substantial funding (perhaps from a grant) to reprint the book; they would also have difficulty, I believe, in tracking down the appropriate individuals to ask their permission and to arrange for royalties. That said, it's possible that someone this list might have an extra copy they might be willing to sell to you, probably for much less than $150.

 

Wade Kotter
> South Ogden, UT
> "Make a Joyful Noise Unto the Lord"

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From: Haruo (Leland) <rosh...@gmail.com>
> To: fasola-di...@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:35 PM
> Subject: [fasola-discussions] The Colored Sacred Harp
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> I can't seem to find a copy of this work (any printing) available for less than about $150. How can it be that the publishers (i.e., of the reprints) have not reissued it? There's a PDF online, so I have some idea what the contents are like, but it contains only 22 of the nearly 100 pages that comprise the book, and 3 of the 22 pages are not songs. Anybody know what the copyright situation is?
>

> http://general.utpb.edu/fac/keast_d/Tunebooks/tunebook/Colored%20Sacred%20Harp.pdf (the PDF referred to)
> Amazon.com listing
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> Leland aka Haruo
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[Stephen Smith]

I am also interested in purchasing a copy from someone on the list if the opportunity presents itself. 
I have been meaning for some time to contact Janice Jackson, who is listed on the Sacred Harp Resources webpage as having copies of the most recent printing for sale - is that information out of date?

[Joe Dan Boyd]

LELAND & other interested parties, you will find references in my book, Judge Jackson and The Colored Sacred Harp,  (which Leland now has from his library) to reprints of the original Colored Sacred Harp (each with new introductions, forwards, rudiments, etc.) which were produced during the years I was researching and writing, with the most recent of these indicating the publishing history as 1934, 1973, 1983 & 1992 and the publishers as Brown Printing, Montgomery, AL & Paragon Press, Montgomery, AL. All list LOC catalog card number EP 44700. The first two of these reprints contain an "all rights reserved" listing and the third one also contains a "copyright 1992  by H. J. Jackson" notice. The original edition contains a "copyright 1934 by J. Jackson, Ozark, Alabama" notice. You might also be interested in the sections of my book dealing with the original copyright details which I gleaned from a personal visit to the Library of Congress and the actual printer that Judge Jackson used for his original 1934 publication. I am copying Joey Brackner with this e-mail in the event he might wish to add to my comments for your information. Thanks very much for your interest and if I may be of further assistance, please call on me. Best from JOE DAN BOYD

[Cliff Hall]

I've been wanting to get my hands on one.  I'd be interested too.

Cliff Hall

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[Steven L. Sabol]

I compile the information on the Sacred Harp and Related Shape-Note Music: Resources website, but I have not updated the paragraph (in chapter 1) on The Colored Sacred Harp in years. I am sure the information is out of date, and regrettably I have not actively attempted to find out the status of the tunebook after the coloredsacredharp.org website disappeared a couple of years ago. We can assume it is now out of print. Tonight I tried to use Web people-finding search engines but did not find a Janice Jackson at the Montgomery, AL address listed in my paragraph. There may be people in Montgomery with current information, for example, the organizers of the annual Rotunda Singing and people at the Alabama Folklife Association. If anyone on this list has some information, please share it with the rest of us.

My paragraph on this tunebook in the Resources says that in 2012 the coloredsacredharp.org was down but the domain was properly registered.  Apparently the registration expired since then and the domain was obtained (incredibly) by a firm in Osaka, Japan.  Now when one opens the coloredsacredharp.org, even more incredibly one comes to a website in Japanese about products for dry skin.

Steven Sabol
Bethesda, MD

[Ros’ Haruo]

Thanks to all who have responded on either the copyright status and/or the possible availability of a less expensive copy of this book!

Leland Bryant Ross aka Ros' Haruo (呂須•春男)
Delegito en Seattle, Universala Esperanto-Asocio
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[t...@risingdove.com]

On 21 Nov 2013 at 19:41, jfra...@mchsi.com wrote:

> I recall that "Florida Storm" was often led from that book.

"Florida Storm" is an interesting case. If it's sung the way it's written in the book it does *not*
sound like it does when the Wiregrass singers do (did?) it. They take many liberties with
rhythms, ornamentation, etc. No way can you reconstruct that from the printed music. I'm
sure that's not the only piece either. Lots of oral tradition go along with the Colored Sacred
Harp.

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