Wyeth's Part Second

[Fulton, Erin]

Is there a scan of Wyeth's Repository of Sacred Music, Part Second available anywhere? It's not in Shaw-Shoemaker, nor does it appear in any of the usual places online.

Alternatively, would someone who owns the facsim be willing to scan theirs and share it with me? I do not have a copy and our library is still not doing ILL, alas.

Thanks,

E. Fulton.

[Fynn Titford-Mock]

Hi Erin,

this has been on my to-do list for a while - I have the facsimile and will see if I can scan it sometime in the coming week.
Best,
Fynn

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[David Olson]

this works for me

<https://archive.org/details/repositoryofsacr1826wyet/page/2/mode/2up>

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[Paul Setford]

Try Archive.org. They have a downloadable copy.

Regards

Paul Setford

[Gabriel Kastelle]

The IMSLP has loaded more and more tunebooks in recent years,

along with their more usual sheet music.

I've found surprising, easy riches there;

click around a bit and one can usually find free download &/or view.

Time travel much, Finn?  or are these different uploading tunebook "Finn"s ?

e.g.

https://imslp.org/wiki/Wyeth%27s_Repository_of_Sacred_Music%2C_Part_I_(Various)

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[Wade Kotter]

Paul, as I said in my response to David, the two "parts" were published three years apart. The first, published in 1810, was titled simply "Wyeth's Repository of Sacred Music." The second part (not a second edition of the first part) was published in 1813 and was titled "Wyeth's Repository of Sacred Music, Part Second" with very different musical contents. The archive.org scan is of a later edition of the first part.

Wade

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[Wade Kotter]

Thanks, Fynn. This is another great service to scholarship to add to all the other scans you have made available. The facsimile is of the 1820 2nd edition but my understanding is that there are no differences between the musical content of the first and second editions, although I could be wrong. I wonder if there is anyone out there who has access to a copy of the 1813 first edition?

Wade

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[Fynn Titford-Mock]

David, and Paul - the book scanned and uploaded on the Internet Archive is Wyeth's Repository Part First - a quite different collection.

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On 26 Mar 2021 6:35 pm, David Olson <da...@thirdculture.com> wrote:

this works for me

<https://archive.org/details/repositoryofsacr1826wyet/page/2/mode/2up>

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 8:15 AM Fulton, Erin <erinf...@uky.edu> wrote:

Is there a scan of Wyeth's Repository of Sacred Music, Part Second available anywhere? It's not in Shaw-Shoemaker, nor does it appear in any of the usual places online.

Alternatively, would someone who owns the facsim be willing to scan theirs and share it with me? I do not have a copy and our library is still not doing ILL, alas.

Thanks,

E. Fulton.

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[Wade Kotter]

That's not what she's looking for, David. The two "parts" were published three years apart. The first, published in 1810, was titled simply "Wyeth's Repository of Sacred Music." The second part (not a second edition of the first part) was published in 1813 and was title "Wyeth's Repository of Sacred Music, Part Second" with very different musical contents. The archive.org scan is of a later edition of the first part.

Wade

Wade Kotter

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[David Olson]

oops. 

Choral Wiki has a nice TOC, and Barry Johnson has uploaded almost all the Elkanah Kelsey Dare compositions.

<https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Wyeth%27s_Repository,_Part_Second>

Otherwise, the unique material in Part Second is mostly missing. 

archive's scan for Part Second is only 7 pages from front and back

<https://archive.org/details/WyethsRepositoryOfSacredMusic/mode/2up>

the typography on the single page of music reproduced -- definitely worth a screenshot. 

Sharp Key on Gothic Letter , with faded key signature 

sorry for muddying the water

david olson

[Gabriel Kastelle]

oops-- sorry--

--I did a search for "Part Second", understanding the separate and different character of the two Wyeth volumes,

and didn't notice that the links I found and shared also were the mistaken links to editions of earlier first collection--

--sorry for slight miss on this search,

but my observation about increasing tunebook availabilities on IMSLP was my main point, and is still good, I think. 

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[Wade Kotter]

David, there are several "scans" at archive.org that only include scans of any handwritten material added or inserted into the original case. Many of them, such as this one, come from copies held by the American Antiquarian Society. They are the ones who chose to scan only the manuscript material While I appreciate the work Baryy has done, I always prefer to see the original.

Wade

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[Fulton, Erin]

Thank you to Fynn and Dr. Pen for the help! A few clarifications, should others be working with/after this source:

Archive.org has several different editions of Wyeth's Repository (the first one, I mean), but only a very fragmentary scan of Part Second, as others have noted.

The Archive.org scan of Part Second is "weird" because it is part of AAS's manuscript annotations project. There used to be a landing page for it on GIGI, but it looks like it's down for maintenance right now. Admittedly, I've never entirely grokked their approach to this project.

I'm trying to confirm whether the (textual) typefaces used match another roughly contemporaneous publication, so Barry's PDFs, while lovely, do not do me much in the way of good. I am aware of and do very much appreciate the table of contents on CPDL.

Because of the date, comparison images from the 1820 version/Da Capo facsim are more personally useful to me rather than the 1813, though I don't have any particular reason to believe that the text face changed from one to the other edition.

By the way, there is an 1813 copy relatively near me (at Hardin-Simmons), but I've always had so much else on my plate while visiting there that I've never had them page it.

Best,

E. Fulton.

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[Ted Mercer]

Hi Erin,  I'm a little confused by all the back and forth on this and too lazy to re-read. Do you still need to see Wyeth part 2?  Whole thing or certain pages only?  I don't have first edition of Wyeth 2 in any form,  but have both an original book and DaCapo facsimiles (for small group singing) of second edition.  If you would like to borrow a facsimile, I can snail it to you, or just scan parts? 

 

Ted

On 03/26/2021 6:52 PM Judy Hauff <jah...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

 

 

 

Ted, are you seeing this thread?  I can't remember which editions you have there.

 

 

 

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[Warren Steel]

If I'm not mistaken, there's only one difference in content between the first edition (1813) of Wyeth's Repository, Part Second and the later edition (1820) which is used for the Da Capo facsimile: on page 112, MINISTER'S FAREWELL was replaced with PROVIDENCE by Curtis (Sacred Harp p. 298). The table of contents does not reflect this change, and continues to list MINISTER'S FAREWELL.
The title page is updated, stating "2d. Edition" and the new date, and referring to booksellers in Philadelphia, Baltimore and New York. On page 2, the copyright date is not updated, but a note adds that the 5th edition of the Repository is recently published, referring to either the 1818 or 1820 printing of Wyeth's Repository, fifth edition.
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[Haruo (Leland)]

Sorry I jumped in with my question before reading the whole thread. It's been a tiring day with vaccination followup symptoms, and I'm jumping ahead of myself a lot.

[Haruo (Leland)]

I don't know how to tell whether this is Part I or Part Second; Erin asked about the latter. The archive.org linked copy calls itself "Stereotype edition, Enlarged and improved" but doesn't say what Part. I think it's too short to be both parts in one volume. Is this the copy Paul Setford referred to? Not clear.

[Haruo (Leland)]

That says Part I, Gabrielle. Erin was asking about Part Second.

[Fynn Titford-Mock]

I've scanned and uploaded Wyeth's Repository of Sacred Music Part Second. Once I've worked out whether I can compress the file to a nicer size I will do so, but for the moment, here it is: https://imslp.org/index.php?title=Wyeth%27s_Repository_of_Sacred_Music,_Part_II_(Various)&oldid=3374639

enjoy!

Fynn

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David, and Paul - the book scanned and uploaded on the Internet Archive is Wyeth's Repository Part First - a quite different collection.

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[Wade Kotter]

Many thanks, Fynn. I own a copy of the facsimile, but this certainly will be very useful to those who aren't so lucky.

To those who are interested but not IMSLP members, if you try to download the file today you'll see the this message: "This is a newly submitted file that is available to members only." It will eventually be available to everyone for free but I can't remember how long the waiting period is.

Wade 

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[Judy Mincey]

Thanks for sharing. 


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[Leland Ross]

Wow, Fynn, that's a major contribution! Thanks!

Out of curiosity, which piece has the optional instrumental interludes? (I don't think I've ever seen a four-shape score before that was meant not to be sung.

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[Barry Johnston]

From a quick visual scan, there are interludes in Gospel Trump (p. 37) and Fall of Babylon (p. 44).