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skibrian

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May 1, 2017, 12:32:01 PM5/1/17
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who knows why?  common was up earlier in the morning.  something tells me they are highly affected by traders making moves on the momentum.  I think preferreds are locked up by the hedge funds now.  they almost never trade in the same volumes as they did in 2011.  I think they've mostly been sopped up by those without a desire to sell them.

a few preferreds are down, must up a few percent.

joseph s

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May 1, 2017, 6:56:23 PM5/1/17
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I think both common and pref had high volume today. My bud that has mostly common thought it might be the delay....

joseph s

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May 1, 2017, 10:40:11 PM5/1/17
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FNMAS/FNMA @ 2.69 to 1

Might be a good trade. I wont try it

ron...@comcast.net

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May 1, 2017, 10:49:15 PM5/1/17
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What's meant by ratio?

joseph s

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May 1, 2017, 10:59:28 PM5/1/17
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FNMAS is worth 2.69 times FNMA

joseph s

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May 1, 2017, 11:00:44 PM5/1/17
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My thought is anything below 4.04 is an ok buy.... not a recco.

Just saying it again

ron...@comcast.net

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May 1, 2017, 11:07:52 PM5/1/17
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The ratio at today's close is 2.72 so you mean something else I guess. Not sure what you're driving at but my guess is you have some equivalency in mind where one becomes better buy than the other when it deviates.

joseph s

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May 1, 2017, 11:28:07 PM5/1/17
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FMCKJ/FMCC is 2.69 to 1.


Posted wrong one. Eh. To err is human. Pretty close to 3-1

Not a recco.

Has rallied quite a bit. A breather can happen. Avg cost on FMCKI was 5.65 on the last buys. Small trades.

ron...@comcast.net

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May 2, 2017, 4:36:35 AM5/2/17
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Got it.

Yes, CKIs very light volume.

G. Buckman

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May 2, 2017, 9:17:31 AM5/2/17
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I believe the drop started right after Mnuchin answered Maria B's question (at MIGlobal confr.) about GSE reform being an end of year into next year solve.  I think MMs took that as people (short-term traders) will back out of commons for a while and quickly dropped the price.  It dove 15 cents on just about 350k shares being traded IIRC. 

ron...@comcast.net

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May 2, 2017, 3:30:07 PM5/2/17
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I can pretty much guess which pfds are the fifties, the ones trading around ten or above but where is it listed?

Thx

Duncan Macleod "Beta"

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May 2, 2017, 4:16:39 PM5/2/17
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enter the symbols or cusips into Quantum Online.
I think this is a great resource.
The fannie and freddie websties used list all thier preffereds i dont think they do that anymore.

http://www.quantumonline.com/search.cfm
try this post and good luck.
ski and i each put up our lists of preffered in first couple of post at the top of this this feed

ron...@comcast.net

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May 2, 2017, 4:30:02 PM5/2/17
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Sweet
Anyone following, use quick search top left
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