discussion tree of short conversation about Feynman

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Anne B

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Nov 3, 2019, 9:26:28 AM11/3/19
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This is my first try at making a discussion tree like the one here:

https://curi.us/2229-discussion-trees-with-example

I had trouble finding a conversation I wanted to make a discussion tree of. Most conversations seemed too complicated. I picked the one starting here:

http://curi.us/1298-some-of-richard-feynmans-wonderfulness#13810

Anne B:

> A bit later, Feynman is making arrangements to move to Los Alamos with his wife. He writes to people about possible places for her to live and receive medical care (pp. 20-21). It struck me that I would have been embarrassed or ashamed or something to be asking about special arrangements for a sick spouse. Feynman is confident. He's got a bunch of ideas and he's figuring out which would work out best.

Anonymous:

> > It struck me that I would have been embarrassed or ashamed or something to be asking about special arrangements for a sick spouse.
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> this is weird to me. why would you be embarrassed or ashamed to do that?
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> like, what do you imagine happens when ppl in that situation ask for special arrangements for a sick spouse? do you think ppl respond with scorn when ppl ask for special arrangements for a sick spouse?
>
> I imagine that employees would be genuinely happy to help.

Anne B:

> I would have been ashamed that I had a sick spouse and ashamed that I had to ask people to go out of their way to accommodate us.
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> I'd imagine that people would wonder if it was worth having me there once they found out I was going to be extra trouble.

Anonymous:

> why do you think you'd be ashamed of those things?
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> do you have a memory from childhood that you think might have been the seed for this shame you have now?
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> I'm reminded of a movie (supposedly based on true story) about how the US used to be before laws about disabled ppl. A disabled person went to a restaurant and the waitress asked him to leave because he made other people feel uncomfortable. (The disabled person looked like he had whatever disease that Stephen Hawking had.)

Anne B

> I don't have a particular memory related to this. I do think it's common in our culture to be ashamed of chronic illness or disability or something.


Here’s the diagram I made:

https://vectr.com/annebv/hexMpAeXr.svg?width=640&height=640&select=hexMpAeXrpage0

I couldn’t figure out how to make dotted lines or lines with arrows at the end in this program. Maybe I’ll try another one.

I learned about the conversation from doing this. That surprised me. I hadn’t realized it until I made the diagram that I hadn’t answered the questions that were put to me as directly as I should have. Maybe I’ll respond more on the blog.

Elliot Temple

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Nov 3, 2019, 2:32:15 PM11/3/19
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Why did it surprise you to learn something this way?

Elliot Temple
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Anne B

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Nov 3, 2019, 2:41:15 PM11/3/19
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I thought I already understood that conversation. I thought I picked an easy conversation that I already understood, in order to practice the tree diagram stuff.

I thought I would later use the tree diagram idea for more complicated discussions and learn something about the conversations then.


anonymous FI

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Nov 3, 2019, 2:52:52 PM11/3/19
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The conversation you picked was around 350 words and 5 messages. If you
want an easier one, try a shorter one.

Anne B

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Nov 3, 2019, 4:32:26 PM11/3/19
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On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:52 PM, anonymous FI <anonymousfa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 3, 2019, at 11:41 AM, Anne B <anne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Elliot Temple <cu...@curi.us> wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:26 AM, Anne B <anne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is my first try at making a discussion tree like the one here:
>>>>
>>>> https://curi.us/2229-discussion-trees-with-example

Here’s my summary of what curi used in the post for his discussion tree diagram:

◦ different color for each person
◦ same horizontal level for one post/comment
◦ oval means it was responded to, rectangle means it wasn’t
◦ dotted lines are non-sequitur responses, solid lines are on-topic responses
◦ bold means direct question
◦ notes in square brackets
I had trouble finding a shorter one. I just looked again and still had trouble finding a shorter one. I feel dumb for not being able to find a shorter one.

I could write a short conversation. That could work for practice making a tree diagram.

Here’s a short conversation.

Martha: What are you doing on Saturday? Want to come over and bake cookies with me?

Sally: Sure. I like baking cookies.

Here’s my outline of it this short conversation.

• what you doing Saturday?

• want to bake?

• yes

• I like baking

Here’s my discussion tree diagram of it.

https://vectr.com/annebv/c3TLyxHBRo.svg?width=640&height=640&select=c3TLyxHBRopage0



Tech notes: This was practice for me in making bullets. I had to look up how to do it. I also practiced using keyboard shortcuts to move around. Using Vectr was a lot easier the second time around. I still don’t love it because I can’t figure out how to do dotted lines or lines with arrows. I’ll be looking for a different app to use.


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