Stepping Motor Error Janome
Johnette Esteb
My neighbour has a Janome MC 8000CE machine which she bought at an auction. She has used it as a sewing machine and it is fine. She is scared to try it in embroidery mode (particularly as her husband interferes!) I'm going to try to help her with it. I've downloaded a manual. She has some of the memory cards and I see more are available on Ebay. Is anyone familiar with this machine? Any tips or pointers about what to look out for when I try to get it embroidering?
Reporting back:
The machine was OK in sewing mode and seemed OK in Embroidery until I pressed the ordinary sewing button (prior to switching off to change the card.) The carriage moved so far back towards base and then stopped, making a horrible racket. It did this for a few seconds then stopped, not quite in the right position. The screen said "Stepping motor error". I could find nothing about this in the manual. Any ideas?
I also have an 8000 & enjoy using it for sewing now. My display has become dim & the stepping motor has caused some problems with stitching. I purchased a replacement backlight that we haven't installed as yet. With a machine of this age, a new backlight to keep on reserve might be a good idea.
I have an 8000, still love it and use it for sewing. I have a Babylock Ellageo that I now use for embroidery but I used the 8000 all the time for embroidery before I got my new one. You can combine small designs to make larger layouts and it works very nicely if you have a "cloth setter" that is a separate accessory. If you have specific question, just PM me and I'll try to help.
You can't skip ahead on the colors but there is a trick that lets you do it, you can stick a piece of paper in the tension guide where the thread lays so the eye thinks it's still threaded when it isn't and it will continue to sew without thread until it gets to the spot or color you want, works well to try to get to a point on the design you need to get back to as there is no stitch forward or back to skip ahead or return to a spot. I hope that makes sense.
The 8000 was my 1st Embroidery machine. Loved it but upgraded as new ones became available. I have stopped at the 11000 SE as I see no point in upgrading further at this stage. Best of luck with helping your friend. I am sure she will get hooked on Embroidery. Hugs
I also have an 8000 , which gave me many years of great sewing and embroidery , as the others have said its only a small embroidery area, but they do stitch out well , my screen has gone now ,so I can only use it for stright sewing , but it works well onmy quilt frame ,good luck
I also have the MC8000 and bought it in about 1989. The embroidery is beautiful if limited in size. It's easy to use, very straight forward. My kids grew up wearing designs done with this machine. The cloth setter makes it foolproof to perfectly place designs on garments and to group designs to make larger scenarios. I sure hope she has it. I have an Ellageo BLL but still use the 8000 at times (I have some favorites) for embroidery and it's my go to machine for sewing although I'm trying hard to bond with my brother. Have fun, because it is! Please keep us posted on your progress.
I have a Janome MC 8000...but I am not sure about the "CE"...I bought it in 1989 and it still works like a champ...both sewing and embroidery modes...The embroidery is excellent....I would say that you might be surprised at how noisy it is compared to today's machines...it might make a kind of "loud" grrrr noise when you put it into the embroidery mode...I know when I took it to a class a couple of years ago and put it into the embroidery mode..the class turned around to see what the "problem" was....and the Janome dealer said...oh, that's the normal sound it makes...the only tricky thing there is to it is trying to match up lettering..if she has the cloth setter, it shouldn't be that big of a problem...I would suggest selecting a simple design...or perhaps just some lettering from Memory Card 1 to begin with...after you see how it goes...move on to another more complex design...I used this as my embroidery machine from 1989 to 2009 when I got the MC10000 SE...which Janome replaced twice with a new machine...ultimately I had to return it as well...I then got the Baby Lock Ellisimo...If it sews the lettering...It should be okay for the cards as well...good luck and keep us posted!
In the diagram, 4 stepper motors each coupled to lead screws are being controlled to vertically lift a rectangular plane. If we command all 4 steppers to begin to rotate and the lead screws are infinitely long will the plane being lifted become increasing unlevel with time?
A stepper motor rotates in discrete steps. You command it to rotate one step at a time. A NEMA-17 motor has 200 such steps to a revolution. If you rotate the shaft yourself you can feel the locations of each of the 200 steps.
The locations of the steps are fixed inside the motor, so after 200 steps the shaft has rotated 360 degrees. The angle between the location within the motor of any particular step N and N+1 may have up to 5% error, but since the sum of the angles between each step add up to 360 you'll be back to where you started from after 200 steps.
The biggest problem with stepper motors is that they can miss a step. That is, the motor is at position N and after you command it to step it fails to move to position N+1. This is usually due to the load on the motor being too large -- the motor doesn't have enough torque to move to the next step with the load. This may also be caused by trying to step the motor too fast.
In your table scenario the table can become uneven if one or more of the motors misses a step. Usually, however, if a motor is able to move one step it is able to move through all 200 steps in the cycle if the load doesn't change.
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I On my way! A 10000 which I love. Then I got the 11000 which is not nearly as good. Count on at least 3 or 4 bobbin cases a year. I have a great dealer but I do not like this machine. I have contacted Janome but their advice is to take it to my dealer along with all the kinds of thread and needles I use. Really? I also have used Juki, Viking, White and Kenmore and never had a problem like the. As others have said the bobbin case lifts up and then it is damaged. No apparent cause. I have been watching it when it does this. Not sure what I will replace it with but I will have to do that.
Janome MC11000, machine was given to me as a gift and it has been in the shop more than it has been at home. The bobbin case spins and jumps out of position.I bought a new bobbin case, and I am using Janome bobbins, as well as bobbin thread. When embroidering I keep getting a false error reading telling me the thread is cut and I need to rethread the machine. I just hit the start button and it sews a little bit and then does the same thing. Am totally frustrated with this machine and would not recommend.
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I have been a sewing machine for 32 years.I have had many hours of training in classes and hands on.Janome has always been a fav.Then the 1100 came out and Wham..bottom of the list..As for working for a dealer,we should get good tech support .Janome has the worst of any brand on the market.After hours waiting on the phone for the top guy,he will listen and then tell you to replace A board.NO actual help in the problem.They like to make you feel like a Dummy.
As far as dealer support,Brother/Baby lock is top of the game.( They both are made in the same factory).Bernina is ok but they have to call you back after they look up the problem.Singer is gone,They were bought out by Happy in China.There embroidery machines are made by Juki.All in all for the money you spend,Brother from a dealer is best spent in my book.(not from Walmart).Thanks for the rant,back to work now.