Re: Fan Control Windows 10 Asus
Adalrico Drury
There are two options you get when you download ASUS Armoury Crate: an Armoury Crate Lite package, which will detect automatically compatible system devices and automatically download and install everything else needed for them to work with Armoury Crate, and an Armoury Crate Full package, which will let you manually select devices from the step-by-step installer.
G-Helper made me fall in love again with my ASUS ROG laptop. It offers 95% of the Armoury Crate functionality without the bloatware (yes, I consider ASUS Armoury Crate bloatware, you can quote me). With G-Helper you even get ASUS RGB software control, at a basic level, without the need to install Armoury Crate.
The app needs to be stripped down to the bare minimum. Then allow you to only install what you need, nothing more, nothing less. Performance-related profiles and fan curves should be added to the BIOS/UEFI. On ASUS motherboards the options are there, so why not on laptops?
Not sure if this is Armoury Crate or Aura Creator related, but one or the other is causing randomised BSODs on my custom built desktop. I know it is one of these as I have done flash rebuild on windows, removed everything else except the Asus bloatware and still occasionally get an asus-iosys error on boot (Cant remember the exact wording).
Will be removing aura-creator first as i recently disabled it, and suddenly the system ran beautifully for two days straight. When I tried to re-enable an Aura profile the errors returned every 3-4 hours. If I beleive the errors I am receiving, my system has a bad kernel, bad ram, hdd (SSD) drive corruptions and various other issues all at once!
Damn, Not sure if this is the be all and end all of it, but I uninstalled bloatware (Virtual Pet), and the system has been rock solid for more than 24hours so far. Hopefully this continues and I don't need to do a full refresh.
Armourycrate is not bloatware. it works awesome on top end systems. I have a RYZEN 9 cpu, 120g memory, 3090Ti. ( 40 series unstable ) So absolutely works. It controls my whole PC from RGB lighting, system cooling fans, temperatures, clock speeds, and much more. Too many people do not understand their own system.
How about G-helper on Github? I have a G15 with a 3080, and I removed armory crate yesterday. The laptop feels more responsive and is not devouring the battery anymore. I'm still looking for easy ways to switch the performance modes, and found it on Google. Gonna try it out in a week or so.
As to Mark you'll need a fresh install. On my H670 Asus motherboard, removing Armory Crate trashed the Windows install. The system wouldn't sleep, the fans always spun at maximum speed in spite of BIOS settings, and the RGB was always off. A fresh install after turning off Armory Crate support in BIOS sorted everything out quite quickly. Even on my G15 they thankfully allowed you to toggle off Armory Crate, and I used the remover tool supplied by Asus. This was the last Asus product I'll ever buy. They've lost the plot, and I've lost all faith in them. I had multiple UI and performance debacles with my Asus ROG Phone 5 as well, and I'm done with the brand forever.
I understand your frustration Sang. ASUS software is a big issue and it always has been, but the competition isn't better in this regard, at least from my experience. Where ASUS wins big time is the hardware they build. I only wish they made the software just a little bit better.
Thank you so much for this Artikel of yours and of coursr your Platinum gibt Tim g-helper which ist Wirkung very well un NY ASUS A 16 Edition Notebook. I was getting Furious wirh AC Software and IT crashed normal Energy saving Operation, OT Walking Up anymore etc. I uninstalled ALL ASUS Software stuff. Disavled AC stuff in BIOS. Did repairinstallation of the crappy Win 11, installed G-Helper and finally Im Happy after 3 weeks after buying my good ASUS Hardware ?. Thanks ahai, man!
I miss times, where system apps like these were written with Win32 as pure native apps, they took no more than 100KB, 10MB TOPS. Today's examples are CPU-Z and GPU-Z. This is proof that you can create wonderful working app which saves resources. But this PR idiots love 2GB fan controller app, where they can put tons of ads and spyware. Others, programmer idiots hired by PR idiots just can't create usable app, they are addicted to mediocrity and their javascript "apps" pretending to be usable system app. These guys should be punished and fired, but somehow there is a permission to publish ugly, bad, spyware apps.
Peter, I get the feeling we're about the same age, give or take. I can totally relate to what you're saying. This Agile mindset BS has take the world of programming, and every software product I use is bad because "we'll fix it in the next release". Also, rapid development cycles for everything means less time for proper tasting. You can see this everywhere, even in critical systems, so no wonder that planes are literally falling from the skies because of bad software.
Now about Armoury Crate, if you have an ASUS laptop definitely try G-Helper. It's linked in the article. Since I've reviewed it, it got a lot of new features. It's now mostly on par with Armoury Crate, minus the bloat.
My current (a X670E board) mobo is a MSI one, and my previous was as well (Z370/8700K, upgraded to a 7800X3D recently). So I can't speak to the software of other motherboard vendors. But I helped my sister pick out a mid range gaming laptop for my niece one Christmas, and ended up picking a ASUS one.
The hardware its self is fine (though the cooling isn't very good and is quite loud), but that was my intro to ASUS's software. Good lord. Bloated is the perfect way to describe Armoury crate. Like the "promos" tab or whatever it's called. It's just straight up advertising space being sold in a app that your system, specifically if it's a laptop really needs. Very classy Asus.
MSI's software (currently) is called MSI Center. It's somewhat similar in that it's a UWP app from the MS Store. But to their credit they let you pick and choose what modules to install. So if all you want is "Mystic Light" (MSI's branding for ARGB) you can install just that module. There are no ads, no "promos" or whatever tab etc.
But yeah ASUS was never even a consideration for me, party because of how I knew already about how they basically put Armoury crate in like a Rootkit by putting it in the BIOS as you described with the default option being on. That's taking it way to far. To be fair MSI has started doing something similar. Not with MSI center, but in the UEFI of this board there is a option called something like "MSI driver installer" that is enabled by default and will cause a app to launch after you finish installing windows that offers to download the drivers for your board for you. I'm sure it asks if you want to install MSI center as well though. But I do know that if that option is on in BIOS it will also ask you if you want to install Norton 360. And MSI center by default if you use it to check for updates will list Norton 360 as one and have it checked by default so if you just quickly hit install you're getting Norton!
I've been and still am an ASUS fan for the past 20 years or so. That being said, their software makes me crazy. I'm considering switching to MSI or Gigabyte just to get a feel of what I may be missing.
It may work for awhile, eventually it will give the service error, and there is no fix, and no support from Asus. So AC becomes unusable. That is the problem crate seems to update and install downloads but in reality only creates super errors that again have no fix. Horrible software!
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