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Martin Husemann

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Jan 21, 2014, 4:57:48 PM1/21/14
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Hey folks,

I recently got an unexpectedly big delivery of AlphaServer DS20 machines
(while I expected something like an alpha station DS10). The machines were
not quite in working order - I'm trying to puzzle them back into shape,
but they are confusing beasts. Maybe someone here has a similar working
machine and can give some hints?

First thing is SCSI confusion. They have an "internal" StorageWorks shelf,
connected apparently via scsi over a small repeater. The cable from the
repeater was not connected. The connector is a bit strange, but the mainboard
has two matching jacks labeled SCSI bus A and SCSI bus B. So I connected it
to scsi a, but it does not show up anywhere. The schematics on the downside
of the top cover seems to imply that it should run to some pci card - which
I don't have.

I aquired a usable single channel scsi card and connected the other scsi
cable (with standard 50 pin connector) to it, and this makes the CD drive
show up in firmware.

I also have a card that apparently should connect to an extern storage works
shelf (which I also have), but this is not seen by firmware either.

I added a few pci network cards, just for testing (and maybe mounting
root on nfs while I can't get a disk working).

P00>>>show_status
ID Program Device Pass Hard/Soft Bytes Written Bytes Read
-------- ------------ ------------ ------ --------- ------------- -------------
00000001 idle system 0 0 0 0 0
P00>>>show config
AlphaServer DS20 500 MHz

SRM Console: V5.7-8
PALcode: OpenVMS PALcode V1.79-60, Tru64 UNIX PALcode V1.72-59

Processors
CPU 0 Alpha 21264-4 500 MHz SROM Revision: V1.82
Bcache size: 4 MB

Core Logic
Cchip DECchip 21272-CA Rev 2.1
Dchip DECchip 21272-DA Rev 2.0
Pchip 0 DECchip 21272-EA Rev 2.2
Pchip 1 DECchip 21272-EA Rev 2.2

TIG Rev 4.14
Arbiter Rev 2.10 (0x1)

MEMORY

Array # Size Base Addr
------- ---------- ---------
0 512 MB 000000000
1 512 MB 020000000

Total Bad Pages = 0
Total Good Memory = 1024 MBytes


PCI Hose 00
Bus 00 Slot 05/0: Cypress 82C693
Bridge to Bus 1, ISA
Bus 00 Slot 05/1: Cypress 82C693 IDE
dqa.0.0.105.0
Bus 00 Slot 05/2: Cypress 82C693 IDE
dqb.0.1.205.0
Bus 00 Slot 05/3: Cypress 82C693 USB

Bus 00 Slot 08: QLogic ISP10x0
pka0.7.0.8.0 SCSI Bus ID 7
dka500.5.0.8.0 RRD47

PCI Hose 01
Bus 00 Slot 07: 10048086/10048086

Bus 00 Slot 08: DEC PCI MC
Rev: 24, mca0


ISA
Slot Device Name Type Enabled BaseAddr IRQ DMA
0
0 MOUSE Embedded Yes 60 12
1 KBD Embedded Yes 60 1
2 COM1 Embedded Yes 3f8 4
3 COM2 Embedded Yes 2f8 3
4 LPT1 Embedded Yes 3bc 7
5 FLOPPY Embedded Yes 3f0 6 2

P00>>>boot dka500
[..]
Copyright (c) 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005,
2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
The NetBSD Foundation, Inc. All rights reserved.
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.

NetBSD 6.99.23 (INSTALL) #0: Tue Aug 13 15:36:54 UTC 2013
bui...@b8.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/HEAD/alpha/201308131510Z-obj/home/builds/ab/HEAD/src/sys/arch/alpha/compile/INSTALL
AlphaServer DS20 500 MHz, s/n AY94910150
8192 byte page size, 1 processor.
total memory = 1024 MB
(2712 KB reserved for PROM, 1021 MB used by NetBSD)
avail memory = 996 MB
mainbus0 (root)
cpu0 at mainbus0: ID 0 (primary), 21264-4
cpu0: Architecture extensions: 0x303<PAT,MVI,FIX,BWX>
tsc0 at mainbus0: 21272 Core Logic Chipset, Cchip rev 0
tsc0: 8 Dchips, 2 memory buses of 32 bytes
tsc0: arrays present: 512MB, 512MB, 0MB, 0MB, Dchip 0 rev 1
tsp0 at tsc0
pci0 at tsp0 bus 0
sio0 at pci0 dev 5 function 0: vendor 0x1080 product 0xc693 (rev. 0x00)
cypide0 at pci0 dev 5 function 1: Cypress 82C693 IDE Controller (rev. 0x00)
cypide0: primary channel wired to compatibility mode
cypide0: primary channel interrupting at isa irq 14
atabus0 at cypide0 channel 0
cypide1 at pci0 dev 5 function 2: Cypress 82C693 IDE Controller (rev. 0x00)
cypide1: hardware does not support DMA
cypide1: primary channel wired to compatibility mode
cypide1: secondary channel interrupting at isa irq 15
atabus1 at cypide1 channel 0
vendor 0x1080 product 0xc693 (USB serial bus, interface 0x10) at pci0 dev 5 function 3 not configured
isp0 at pci0 dev 8 function 0: QLogic 1020 Fast Wide SCSI HBA
isp0: interrupting at dec 6600 irq 27
isa0 at sio0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x3bc-0x3bf irq 7
com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4: ns16550a, working fifo
com0: console
com1 at isa0 port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3: ns16550a, working fifo
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60-0x64
fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2
mcclock0 at isa0 port 0x70-0x71: mc146818 compatible time-of-day clock
tsp1 at tsc0
pci1 at tsp1 bus 0
wm0 at pci1 dev 7 function 0: Intel i82543GC 1000BASE-T Ethernet (rev. 0x02)
wm0: interrupting at dec 6600 irq 47
wm0: Ethernet address 00:03:47:25:42:14
makphy0 at wm0 phy 1: Marvell 88E1000 Gigabit PHY, rev. 2
makphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-FDX, auto
vendor 0x1011 product 0x0018 (miscellaneous network, revision 0x24) at pci1 dev 8 function 0 not configured
scsibus0 at isp0: 16 targets, 8 luns per target
scsibus0: waiting 2 seconds for devices to settle...
fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB, 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec
cd0 at scsibus0 target 5 lun 0: <DEC, RRD47 (C) DEC, 1206> cdrom removable
cd0: sync (100.00ns offset 8), 8-bit (10.000MB/s) transfers

Is the DEC "miscellaneous network" device the external storage works
connector card? I can not find any traces of USB, so I guess that is an
error in the pcidevs of that (slightly old) NetBSD version and it actually
is the CONTAQ 82C693 PCI-ISA Bridge.

I guess I should continue hunting for the "right" scsi pci card which can
connect both the storage works repeater and the CD drives scsi bus, or add
another internal scsi disk at the first bus behind the CD drive (there is
space and connectors left).

Can I use some kind of adapter to connect the scsi repeater to a stock
50 pin pci card?

Thanks for any hints,

Martin

Manuel Bouyer

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Jan 21, 2014, 5:50:16 PM1/21/14
to Martin Husemann, port-...@netbsd.org
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 10:57:18PM +0100, Martin Husemann wrote:
> [...]
> First thing is SCSI confusion. They have an "internal" StorageWorks shelf,
> connected apparently via scsi over a small repeater. The cable from the
> repeater was not connected. The connector is a bit strange, but the mainboard
> has two matching jacks labeled SCSI bus A and SCSI bus B. So I connected it
> to scsi a, but it does not show up anywhere. The schematics on the downside
> of the top cover seems to imply that it should run to some pci card - which
> I don't have.

from memory, the on-board chip is an adaptec which is not driven by SRM.
You need an LSI-based SCSI adapter.
I'm not sure the on-board adaptec is activated at all when the SRM is used,
from memory I think NetBSD didn't see it either.

--
Manuel Bouyer <bou...@antioche.eu.org>
NetBSD: 26 ans d'experience feront toujours la difference
--

Martin Husemann

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Jan 25, 2014, 8:23:45 AM1/25/14
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Thanks for the hints, I couldn't get hold of a dual channel qlogic controller,
so I just got another single one and now have the machine up & running.

If anyone happens to have spare RAM modules (very strange format) for these
machines, or CPU cards, i would be interested.

Thanks,

Martin



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NetBSD 6.99.30 (GENERIC-$Revision: 1.357 $) #1: Fri Jan 24 23:50:37 CET 2014
mar...@night-owl.duskware.de:/usr/obj/alpha/usr/src/sys/arch/alpha/compile/GENERIC
AlphaServer DS20 500 MHz, s/n AY94910150
8192 byte page size, 1 processor.
total memory = 1024 MB
(2712 KB reserved for PROM, 1021 MB used by NetBSD)
avail memory = 995 MB
timecounter: Timecounters tick every 0.976 msec
mainbus0 (root)
cpu0 at mainbus0: ID 0 (primary), 21264-4
cpu0: Architecture extensions: 0x303<PAT,MVI,FIX,BWX>
tsc0 at mainbus0: 21272 Core Logic Chipset, Cchip rev 0
tsc0: 8 Dchips, 2 memory buses of 32 bytes
tsc0: arrays present: 512MB, 512MB, 0MB, 0MB, Dchip 0 rev 1
tsp0 at tsc0
pci0 at tsp0 bus 0
pci0: i/o space, memory space enabled, rd/line, rd/mult, wr/inv ok
sio0 at pci0 dev 5 function 0: Contaq Microsystems 82C693 PCI-ISA Bridge (rev. 0x00)
cypide0 at pci0 dev 5 function 1: Cypress 82C693 IDE Controller (rev. 0x00)
cypide0: bus-master DMA support present
, but unused (registers at unsafe address 0x10200)cypide0: primary channel wired to compatibility mode
cypide0: primary channel interrupting at isa irq 14
atabus0 at cypide0 channel 0
cypide1 at pci0 dev 5 function 2: Cypress 82C693 IDE Controller (rev. 0x00)
cypide1: hardware does not support DMA
cypide1: primary channel wired to compatibility mode
cypide1: secondary channel interrupting at isa irq 15
atabus1 at cypide1 channel 0
ohci0 at pci0 dev 5 function 3: Contaq Microsystems 82C693 PCI-ISA Bridge (rev. 0x00)
ohci0: interrupting at isa irq 10
ohci0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
isp0 at pci0 dev 8 function 0: QLogic 1020 Fast Wide SCSI HBA
isp0: interrupting at dec 6600 irq 27
isp1 at pci0 dev 9 function 0: QLogic 1020 Fast Wide SCSI HBA
isp1: interrupting at dec 6600 irq 23
isa0 at sio0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x3bc-0x3bf irq 7
com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4: ns16550a, working fifo
com0: console
com1 at isa0 port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3: ns16550a, working fifo
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60-0x64
attimer0 at isa0 port 0x40-0x43
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker
spkr0 at pcppi0
isabeep0 at pcppi0
fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2
mcclock0 at isa0 port 0x70-0x71: mc146818 compatible time-of-day clock
attimer0: attached to pcppi0
tsp1 at tsc0
pci1 at tsp1 bus 0
pci1: i/o space, memory space enabled, rd/line, rd/mult, wr/inv ok
wm0 at pci1 dev 7 function 0: Intel i82543GC 1000BASE-T Ethernet (rev. 0x02)
wm0: interrupting at dec 6600 irq 47
wm0: 64-bit 33MHz PCI bus
wm0: 64 word (6 address bits) MicroWire EEPROM
wm0: Ethernet address 00:03:47:25:42:14
makphy0 at wm0 phy 1: Marvell 88E1000 Gigabit PHY, rev. 2
makphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-FDX, auto
Digital Equipment product 0x0018 (miscellaneous network, revision 0x24) at pci1 dev 8 function 0 not configured
timecounter: Timecounter "clockinterrupt" frequency 1024 Hz quality 0
timecounter: Timecounter "PCC" frequency 499886640 Hz quality 1000
scsibus0 at isp0: 16 targets, 8 luns per target
scsibus1 at isp1: 16 targets, 8 luns per target
scsibus0: waiting 2 seconds for devices to settle...
scsibus1: waiting 2 seconds for devices to settle...
uhub0 at usb0: Contaq Microsystems OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
sd0 at scsibus0 target 0 lun 0: <COMPAQ, BB00911CA0, 3B05> disk fixed
sd0: 8678 MB, 5273 cyl, 20 head, 168 sec, 512 bytes/sect x 17773524 sectors
sd0: sync (50.00ns offset 8), 16-bit (40.000MB/s) transfers, tagged queueing
sd1 at scsibus0 target 1 lun 0: <COMPAQ, BB00912301, B016> disk fixed
sd1: 8678 MB, 5273 cyl, 20 head, 168 sec, 512 bytes/sect x 17773524 sectors
sd1: sync (50.00ns offset 8), 16-bit (40.000MB/s) transfers, tagged queueing
sd2 at scsibus0 target 2 lun 0: <COMPAQ, BB00911CA0, 3B05> disk fixed
sd2: 8678 MB, 5273 cyl, 20 head, 168 sec, 512 bytes/sect x 17773524 sectors
sd2: sync (50.00ns offset 8), 16-bit (40.000MB/s) transfers, tagged queueing
sd3 at scsibus0 target 3 lun 0: <COMPAQ, BB00912301, B016> disk fixed
fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB, 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec
sd3: 8678 MB, 5273 cyl, 20 head, 168 sec, 512 bytes/sect x 17773524 sectors
sd3: sync (50.00ns offset 8), 16-bit (40.000MB/s) transfers, tagged queueing
sd4 at scsibus0 target 4 lun 0: <DEC, RZ1CB-CS (C) DEC, 0844> disk fixed
sd4: 4091 MB, 3708 cyl, 20 head, 113 sec, 512 bytes/sect x 8380080 sectors
sd4: sync (50.00ns offset 8), 16-bit (40.000MB/s) transfers, tagged queueing
cd0 at scsibus1 target 5 lun 0: <DEC, RRD47 (C) DEC, 1206> cdrom removable
Kernelized RAIDframe activated
sd2: no disk label
raid0: RAID Level 1
raid0: Components: /dev/sd0a /dev/sd1a
raid0: Total Sectors: 17773440 (8678 MB)
root on raid0a dumps on raid0b
root file system type: ffs
cd0: no disk label
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