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Hong F Du

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Jul 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/29/00
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Hi All,
If you received an unfinished message before this one, please accept my
apology for accidentally sending it.

I am planning to install a PCI SCSI controller and a external backup
drive on my Pentium 90 machine with Redhat 6.1. But I don't know what
brand and model of hardware I should buy. Could you please give me some
recommendation? It would be better if you had setup something like that
before and like it. Thank you.

feng


Andre Majorel

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Jul 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/30/00
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At 13:25 2000.07.28 -0400, Hong F Du wrote:

>I am planning to install a PCI SCSI controller and a external backup
>drive on my Pentium 90 machine with Redhat 6.1. But I don't know what
>brand and model of hardware I should buy. Could you please give me some
>recommendation? It would be better if you had setup something like that
>before and like it. Thank you.

As far as the SCSI adapter is concerned, I have had a Tekram
DC390 and a DC390F and I'm happy with both. If your external
backup has a 50-pin SCSI connector, go for a DC390 or DC390U.
If it's a 68-pin connector, pick the DC390F or a better model.

Don't try to plug a 50-pin device to the external connector of
a DC390F, it won't work. :-(

André Majorel <amaj...@teaser.fr>
http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/


Ruud H.G. van Tol

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Jul 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/30/00
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"Christopher Browne" <cbbr...@hex.net> wrote:
> "Ruud H.G. van Tol" <rv...@isolution.nl> said:
>> feng:
>>>
>>> I am planning to install a PCI SCSI controller and a external backup
>>> drive on my Pentium 90 machine with Redhat 6.1. But I don't know what
>>> brand and model of hardware I should buy. Could you please give me some
>>> recommendation? It would be better if you had setup something like that
>>> before and like it. Thank you.
>>
>> I normally go for
>> SCSI: NCR-875 U2W (dead cheap, perfect performance and support,
>> faster than any tapedrive needs), about USD 100.
>> Tape drive: HP DDS3 or better, about USD 1000.
>> Or did you mean an external harddisk backup drive?
>
> One problem: That solution is likely to cost many times what a P90
> computer is worth.

Because it's external, you can use it for more than 1 PC.
The costs/bit for 120m DDS2-tapes is very low. :)
(4GB for USD 10)

--Ruud

Christopher Browne

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Jul 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/30/00
to Ruud H.G. van Tol
On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 13:02:22 +0200, the world broke into rejoicing as

"Ruud H.G. van Tol" <rv...@isolution.nl> said:
> > feng:
> > I am planning to install a PCI SCSI controller and a external backup
> > drive on my Pentium 90 machine with Redhat 6.1. But I don't know what
> > brand and model of hardware I should buy. Could you please give me some
> > recommendation? It would be better if you had setup something like that
> > before and like it. Thank you.
>
> I normally go for
> SCSI: NCR-875 U2W (dead cheap, perfect performance and suport,
> faster than any tapedrive needs), about USD 100.
> Tape drive: HP DDS3 or better, about USD 1000.
> Or did you mean an external harddisk backup drive?

One problem: That solution is likely to cost many times what a P90
computer is worth.

I could probably get a P90 PC for about USD 200; a tape drive costing
five times as much as the computer is not going to look like a terribly
good value.

That being said, there are few _cheap_ alternatives. Pricing of
CPUs, memory, and disk drives have made for "low, low prices,"
meaning you can readily get a PC for USD 500 that is pretty usable
at least for desktop purposes.

The increases in functionality and decreases in pricing for tape drives
have not been _nearly_ so aggressive.

<http://www.tdl.com/~netex/data/dat.html> lists a variety of
backup devices and relevant pricing:

-> Ecrix VAX-1 tape drive (around $1000 for a 66GB SCSI-2 tape drive)
-> DLT 40/80 GB tape ($1400-$1500)
-> OnStream IDE/SCSI Tape Drive: 30-50GB ($310 for 30GB IDE, $690 for
50GB SCSI)
-> DDS-4 4mm DAT - 20GB ($1250)
-> DDS-3 4mm DAT - 12GB ($900)
-> DDS-2 4mm DAT - 4GB ($550-$600)
-> DDS-1 4mm DAT - 2GB ($540)
-> AIT AME 8mm tape - 25GB ($2250)
-> Travan TR5 10GB Tape ($340 IDE, $450 SCSI)

Pricing is pretty daunting for many of these.

There are parallel port options, priced to sell to home PC users;
those solutions tend not to be of high reliability.
--
cbbr...@ntlug.org - <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
"...In my phone conversation with Microsoft's lawyer I copped to the
fact that just maybe his client might see me as having been in the
past just a bit critical of their products and business
practices. This was too bad, he said with a sigh, because they were
having a very hard time finding a reporter who both knew the industry
well enough to be called an expert and who hadn't written a negative
article about Microsoft." -- Robert X. Cringely

Ruud H.G. van Tol

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Jul 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/30/00
to Hong F Du, Linux-support
> feng:
> I am planning to install a PCI SCSI controller and a external backup
> drive on my Pentium 90 machine with Redhat 6.1. But I don't know what
> brand and model of hardware I should buy. Could you please give me some
> recommendation? It would be better if you had setup something like that
> before and like it. Thank you.

I normally go for
SCSI: NCR-875 U2W (dead cheap, perfect performance and suport,
faster than any tapedrive needs), about USD 100.
Tape drive: HP DDS3 or better, about USD 1000.
Or did you mean an external harddisk backup drive?

--Ruud

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