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CeDeROM

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Feb 3, 2014, 3:39:08 PM2/3/14
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Hello :-)

I have noticed that quite often keystrokes are repeated in VBox 4.3.6
OSE on FreeBSD-10.0 AMD64. For example when I press cursor left it
repeats many times, letters also. The fast way to stop this is to
switch to another application on my BSD box then switch back to VBox..

Did anyone notice this behavior? What is the problem?

Best regards :-)
Tomek

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Kevin Oberman

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Feb 3, 2014, 8:44:31 PM2/3/14
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On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:38 PM, CeDeROM <ced...@tlen.pl> wrote:

> Hello :-)
>
> I have noticed that quite often keystrokes are repeated in VBox 4.3.6
> OSE on FreeBSD-10.0 AMD64. For example when I press cursor left it
> repeats many times, letters also. The fast way to stop this is to
> switch to another application on my BSD box then switch back to VBox..
>
> Did anyone notice this behavior? What is the problem?
>
> Best regards :-)
> Tomek
>
> --
> CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
>

I have this issue, but only when logged into the VM remotely via RDP. From
the local console this never happens. It is intermittent and never happens
when the session is first opened.
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R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired
E-mail: rkob...@gmail.com

Aryeh Friedman

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Feb 3, 2014, 10:03:50 PM2/3/14
to Kevin Oberman, freebsd-...@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Stable, CeDeROM
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Kevin Oberman <rkob...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:38 PM, CeDeROM <ced...@tlen.pl> wrote:
>
> > Hello :-)
> >
> > I have noticed that quite often keystrokes are repeated in VBox 4.3.6
> > OSE on FreeBSD-10.0 AMD64. For example when I press cursor left it
> > repeats many times, letters also. The fast way to stop this is to
> > switch to another application on my BSD box then switch back to VBox..
> >
> > Did anyone notice this behavior? What is the problem?
> >
> > Best regards :-)
> > Tomek
> >
> > --
> > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
> >
>
> I have this issue, but only when logged into the VM remotely via RDP. From
> the local console this never happens. It is intermittent and never happens
> when the session is first opened.
>

Do you notice this only in VBox or other hypervisiors like bhyve or qemu?
(Some motherboards do not like virtualization even when the CPU allows it
one easy way to test this is with petitecloud [you might even find it a
good replacement for vbox])
--
Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org

Kevin Oberman

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Feb 4, 2014, 1:36:41 AM2/4/14
to Aryeh Friedman, freebsd-...@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Stable, CeDeROM
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.f...@gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Kevin Oberman <rkob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:38 PM, CeDeROM <ced...@tlen.pl> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello :-)
>> >
>> > I have noticed that quite often keystrokes are repeated in VBox 4.3.6
>> > OSE on FreeBSD-10.0 AMD64. For example when I press cursor left it
>> > repeats many times, letters also. The fast way to stop this is to
>> > switch to another application on my BSD box then switch back to VBox..
>> >
>> > Did anyone notice this behavior? What is the problem?
>> >
>> > Best regards :-)
>> > Tomek
>> >
>> > --
>> > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
>> >
>>
>> I have this issue, but only when logged into the VM remotely via RDP. From
>> the local console this never happens. It is intermittent and never happens
>> when the session is first opened.
>>
>
> Do you notice this only in VBox or other hypervisiors like bhyve or qemu?
> (Some motherboards do not like virtualization even when the CPU allows it
> one easy way to test this is with petitecloud [you might even find it a
> good replacement for vbox])
> --
> Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org
>

I only have tried VB, but I just realized that the problem is either an
upstream VB issue or an issue with the RDP implementation in rdesktop.

I just realized that I see the same issue when connected to a Linux Mint VB
client running on a Windows7 system. The only common FreeBSD involvement
is that it us the RDP client.
--
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired
E-mail: rkob...@gmail.com

Aryeh Friedman

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Feb 4, 2014, 2:02:08 AM2/4/14
to Kevin Oberman, freebsd-...@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Stable, CeDeROM
If you have VNC enabled VM's (if I remember right it is a vbox option) do
they behave the same way?
--
Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org

Bernhard Fröhlich

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Feb 4, 2014, 3:52:14 AM2/4/14
to Aryeh Friedman, Kevin Oberman, freebsd-...@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Stable, CeDeROM
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:03 AM, Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Kevin Oberman <rkob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:38 PM, CeDeROM <ced...@tlen.pl> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello :-)
>> >
>> > I have noticed that quite often keystrokes are repeated in VBox 4.3.6
>> > OSE on FreeBSD-10.0 AMD64. For example when I press cursor left it
>> > repeats many times, letters also. The fast way to stop this is to
>> > switch to another application on my BSD box then switch back to VBox..
>> >
>> > Did anyone notice this behavior? What is the problem?
>> >
>> > Best regards :-)
>> > Tomek
>> >
>> > --
>> > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
>> >
>>
>> I have this issue, but only when logged into the VM remotely via RDP. From
>> the local console this never happens. It is intermittent and never happens
>> when the session is first opened.
>>
>
> Do you notice this only in VBox or other hypervisiors like bhyve or qemu?
> (Some motherboards do not like virtualization even when the CPU allows it
> one easy way to test this is with petitecloud [you might even find it a
> good replacement for vbox])

Aryeh with all respect but could you please stop spamming all vbox related
threads with your commercials for petitecloud? It's seriously too much to tell
all people that have a problem with vbox to switch to a different product.

--
Bernhard Froehlich
http://www.bluelife.at/

CeDeROM

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Feb 4, 2014, 5:27:37 AM2/4/14
to Aryeh Friedman, Kevin Oberman, freebsd-...@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Stable
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:36 AM, Kevin Oberman <rkob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I only have tried VB, but I just realized that the problem is either an upstream VB issue or an issue with the RDP implementation in rdesktop.
>> I just realized that I see the same issue when connected to a Linux Mint VB client running on a Windows7 system. The only common FreeBSD involvement is that it us the RDP client.
> If you have VNC enabled VM's (if I remember right it is a vbox option) do they behave the same way?

No Remote Desktop nor VNC enabled in my setup...

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CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info

Aryeh Friedman

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Feb 4, 2014, 6:21:29 AM2/4/14
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On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 5:27 AM, CeDeROM <ced...@tlen.pl> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.f...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:36 AM, Kevin Oberman <rkob...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> I only have tried VB, but I just realized that the problem is either an
> upstream VB issue or an issue with the RDP implementation in rdesktop.
> >> I just realized that I see the same issue when connected to a Linux
> Mint VB client running on a Windows7 system. The only common FreeBSD
> involvement is that it us the RDP client.
> > If you have VNC enabled VM's (if I remember right it is a vbox option)
> do they behave the same way?
>
> No Remote Desktop nor VNC enabled in my setup...
>

Try the following test (the idea is attempt to isolate to either RDP or
vbox):

1. Install some random OS under a different hypervisor (front end) [vbox is
a odd combo hyperv and front end] see if you have similar problems (note to
the peanut gallery this the *ONLY* reason I suggested petitecloud in the
first place is to make it possible to quickly run this test [all other
tests are run on vbox].. namely a manually set up hypervisor is fine also)
2. Install VNC on both host and client
3. See how it behaves via VNC with RDP enabled
4. Repeat test 2 with no RDP (VNC only)

Repeat the above for each host in question (for linux your on your own for
a few days since PC using Linux as a host doesn't have anything beyond
developer support for linux as a host)
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Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org

Aryeh Friedman

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Feb 4, 2014, 6:57:42 AM2/4/14
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> 3. See how it behaves via VNC with RDP enabled
>
>
Oops I meant with VNC enables and RDP disabled
--
Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org


Mark Martinec

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Feb 4, 2014, 7:19:03 AM2/4/14
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2014-02-03 21:38, CeDeROM (Tomek) wrote:
> I have noticed that quite often keystrokes are repeated in VBox 4.3.6
> OSE on FreeBSD-10.0 AMD64. For example when I press cursor left it
> repeats many times, letters also. The fast way to stop this is to
> switch to another application on my BSD box then switch back to VBox..
>
> Did anyone notice this behavior? What is the problem?

I had this problem when a virtual machine (Fedora latest, GUI) was
started from a remote machine, so its console opened over X11/ssh
to a remote server (10 Mb/s link). The host was FreeBSD 9.2,
virtual box 4.3.6.

It took extreme patience and several attempts to type in a command
in guest's xterm, having to pause after each quick keypress and wait
for the echo to show up. Casually typing would result in looong
autorepeats of some of the typed characters.

When guest's console was open locally on the host (not over x11/ssh
from a remote location), everything worked normally.

Mark

Aryeh Friedman

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Feb 4, 2014, 7:25:56 AM2/4/14
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>
> When guest's console was open locally on the host (not over x11/ssh
> from a remote location), everything worked normally.


Not surprising almost anything done as a remote X session is unacceptably
slow (for example I noticed the same issue on super sized xterms) as a
result the event buffer often bottoms out

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Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org

John

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Feb 7, 2014, 1:13:53 PM2/7/14
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On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 09:38:45PM +0100, CeDeROM wrote:
> Hello :-)
>
> I have noticed that quite often keystrokes are repeated in VBox 4.3.6
> OSE on FreeBSD-10.0 AMD64. For example when I press cursor left it
> repeats many times, letters also. The fast way to stop this is to
> switch to another application on my BSD box then switch back to VBox..
>
> Did anyone notice this behavior? What is the problem?

Yeah, I've seen it and it's a real pain. It doesn't matter if one is
local or remote, if you type fast enough, it happens locally as well. I
seem to remember there may be a repeat rate that needs to be set but my
workaround is to not use the graphical client.

It doesn't matter if one uses VNC or RDP or whatever. It happens locally
if one types fast enough. Remotely, (ssh into host then exporting X over
a fast ssh connection) it has made installing an ubuntu guest on a
freebsd host impossible. Exporting an xterm over the same connection and
keyboard repeat is normal. The effect from what I've read is not unique
to freebsd hosts.
--
John

CeDeROM

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Feb 17, 2014, 8:34:07 AM2/17/14
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On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:38 PM, CeDeROM <ced...@tlen.pl> wrote:
> I have noticed that quite often keystrokes are repeated in VBox 4.3.6
> OSE on FreeBSD-10.0 AMD64. For example when I press cursor left it
> repeats many times, letters also. The fast way to stop this is to
> switch to another application on my BSD box then switch back to VBox..

In the VM setup I have disabled Hardware Acceleration for 2D/3D
Display and the problem is gone. Maybe new Xorg/Intel driver is not
yet fast enough :-)

dweimer

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Feb 17, 2014, 8:50:08 AM2/17/14
to CeDeROM, owner-free...@freebsd.org, freebsd-...@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Stable
On 02/17/2014 7:33 am, CeDeROM wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:38 PM, CeDeROM <ced...@tlen.pl> wrote:
>> I have noticed that quite often keystrokes are repeated in VBox 4.3.6
>> OSE on FreeBSD-10.0 AMD64. For example when I press cursor left it
>> repeats many times, letters also. The fast way to stop this is to
>> switch to another application on my BSD box then switch back to VBox..
>
> In the VM setup I have disabled Hardware Acceleration for 2D/3D
> Display and the problem is gone. Maybe new Xorg/Intel driver is not
> yet fast enough :-)

Did you have both 2D and 3D Checked? If I try to check 2D on my windows
installation of Virtual Box, it gives me a warning that its only
supported on windows guests. Perhaps you should try with just 3D
acceleration checked.

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Thanks,
Dean E. Weimer
http://www.dweimer.net/
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