PowerPoint Over the Web
Distance Education
in your browser. Right now I am using the PowerPoint Animation Player
but I would like to know if there is something else that is better or
use less storage, while at the same time download faster. Thank you for
your help.
Jackie Hamilton
Technology Specialist
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I've gotten so frustrated with the whole thing that I have given up on =
displaying PowerPoint *in* the browser and instruct people to just =
download the presentation and view it in PowerPoint.
If you're using a FrontPage enabled server and the audience is using IE =
4.0 or higher it works pretty well with little or no enhancement. But =
that set of criteria is so rarely met that it's not really an option.
Nathan Lowell
Catapult Software Training
Educational Technology: Engineering tomorrow's minds today.
-----Original Message-----
From: Distance Education [SMTP:dis...@CTCD.CC.TX.US]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 1999 6:55 AM
To: DEO...@lists.psu.edu
Subject: [DEOS] PowerPoint Over the Web
I would like your advice on what technology is best to show PowerPoint
in your browser. Right now I am using the PowerPoint Animation Player
but I would like to know if there is something else that is better or
use less storage, while at the same time download faster. Thank you for
your help.
Jackie Hamilton
Technology Specialist
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Grupo Buck de Argentina
>I would like your advice on what technology is best to show PowerPoint
>in your browser. Right now I am using the PowerPoint Animation Player
>but I would like to know if there is something else that is better or
>use less storage, while at the same time download faster. Thank you for
>your help.
Hello. Greetings from Argentina!
We have had two Show'N'Tell Nights on web slide presentations at Diversity
University's MainMOO. Maybe you'll like to see the transcripts. Find the
links at:
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/moonlight
Stay well. Bernardo.
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Grupo Buck de Argentina | Universidad Tecnológica Nacional
mailto:bu...@mail.pccp.com.ar | mailto:ban...@rec.utn.edu.ar
http://www.pccp.com.ar/buck | http://www.utn.edu.ar
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Thomas S Ingebritsen
>I would like your advice on what technology is best to show PowerPoint
>in your browser. Right now I am using the PowerPoint Animation Player
>but I would like to know if there is something else that is better or
>use less storage, while at the same time download faster. Thank you for
>your help.
>
RealNetworks has a product called RealPresenter functions as a Plug-in for
PowerPoint. It will convert your powerpoint slides to a streaming media
presentation.
Thomas S. Ingebritsen, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Zoology and Genetics
Chairman, Project BIO Steering Committee
Email: tsin...@iastate.edu
Phone: (515) 294-9432
Fax: (515) 294-8457
Web: http://www.iastate.edu/~tsingebr
Stephen Kastner
1.) Use the PowerPoint feature "Save as html" at 640 X 480, 3/4 size in
.gif format
2.) use plain backgrounds without a lot of graphics for better speed
3.) Use text instead of images to indicate the navigation, "Next slide" etc.
4.) After the slides are generated, open the code for the 1st slide, the
index.htm file and place the Img001.gif for the next slide in the code of
the previous slide to pre load the image for the next slide while the
current one is being read. BUT set the image size to 1 pixel by 1 pixel in
dimension - so it is virtually invisible.
like this:
<img SRC="img001.GIF" BORDER=0 height=1 width=1>
In slide 1 load image 2, in 2 load image 3 - pre load all of your images!
If this is confusing take a look at 3 examples of many slide shows I
developed for a nursing courses:
http://DesignWise.net/cnm/slides/
Good Luck,
Steve
At 11:39 PM 1/25/99 -0500, you wrote:
>lowe...@BLUE.UNCO.EDU wrote:
>
>I've gotten so frustrated with the whole thing that I have given up on =
>displaying PowerPoint *in* the browser and instruct people to just =
>download the presentation and view it in PowerPoint.
>
>If you're using a FrontPage enabled server and the audience is using IE =
>4.0 or higher it works pretty well with little or no enhancement. But =
>that set of criteria is so rarely met that it's not really an option.
>
>Nathan Lowell
>Catapult Software Training
>
>Educational Technology: Engineering tomorrow's minds today.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Distance Education [SMTP:dis...@CTCD.CC.TX.US]
>Sent: Friday, January 22, 1999 6:55 AM
>To: DEO...@lists.psu.edu
>Subject: [DEOS] PowerPoint Over the Web
>
>I would like your advice on what technology is best to show PowerPoint
>in your browser. Right now I am using the PowerPoint Animation Player
>but I would like to know if there is something else that is better or
>use less storage, while at the same time download faster. Thank you for
>your help.
>
>Jackie Hamilton
>Technology Specialist
>
> =
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>Pennsylvania
>State University. Opinions expressed are those of DEOS-L subscribers,
>and do not constitute endorsement of any opinion, product, or service by
>ACSDE or Penn State.
>
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>ACSDE or Penn State.
>
S t e p h e n K a s t n e r
http://DesignWise.net
Web Based Courseware Developer
http://WebSchoolhouse.com
Voice: 920.839.2795
Fax: 920.839.9550
Mike Mullen
save the presentation to HTML (option on the file menu). Then you simply
upload the entire directory to your server and link to the file "index.htm"
in the directory. One caution, you can save to 640x480, 800x600, etc... my
experience says to save to 640x480 with no more than 3/4 screen display so
that it can be viewed on most any but the smallest monitors!
Good luck!
At 07:54 AM 1/22/1999 -0600, you wrote:
>I would like your advice on what technology is best to show PowerPoint
>in your browser. Right now I am using the PowerPoint Animation Player
>but I would like to know if there is something else that is better or
>use less storage, while at the same time download faster. Thank you for
>your help.
>
>Jackie Hamilton
>Technology Specialist
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>DEOS-L is a service provided to the Distance Education community by
>The American Center for the Study of Distance Education, The Pennsylvania
>State University. Opinions expressed are those of DEOS-L subscribers,
>and do not constitute endorsement of any opinion, product, or service by
>ACSDE or Penn State.
Dr. Mike Mullen
Dep. of Plant and Soil Sciences
University of Tennessee
Knoxville, TN 37901-1071
Monkelis, Mel
them
(without making the users download a copy). Go to
http://www.wa.gov/esd/work/tutorials.htm and you can view 3 shows we've =
put
on the web. In fact, a user simply viewing these shows is easier than
instructing them how to download them to their hard drive. Email me at =
my
direct address if I can offer any help.-------Mel
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-----Original Message-----
From: Grupo Buck de Argentina [SMTP:bu...@EXITO.PCCP.COM.AR]
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 1999 6:21 AM
To: DEO...@LISTS.PSU.EDU
Subject: Re: [DEOS] PowerPoint Over the Web
At 07:54 22/01/99 -0600, Jackie Hamilton wrote:
>I would like your advice on what technology is best to show
PowerPoint
>in your browser. Right now I am using the PowerPoint Animation
Player
>but I would like to know if there is something else that is better
or
>use less storage, while at the same time download faster. Thank
you for
>your help.
Hello. Greetings from Argentina!
We have had two Show'N'Tell Nights on web slide presentations at
Diversity
University's MainMOO. Maybe you'll like to see the transcripts. Find
the
links at:
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/moonlight
Stay well. Bernardo.
----------------------------------------------------------------
Bernardo Humberto Banega (h)
Grupo Buck de Argentina | Universidad Tecnológica Nacional
mailto:bu...@mail.pccp.com.ar | mailto:ban...@rec.utn.edu.ar
http://www.pccp.com.ar/buck | http://www.utn.edu.ar
MOO news, see http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/moonlight
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JANET LEE SHARIK
compressed video compared to a traditional class seems to be the
effect of timing/delay and being boxed in with the equipment.
(Yes, you can use a lapel mike and slave the camera to you as you walk --
but delay ((in this case camera's tracking)) is still a factor and you must
adjust your pace accordingly.)
Q1: what research is out there on delay/timing especially in relating to
communication?
Q2: tips for not letting technology "box" you in?
Thanks,
babyhuey at jlsh...@morehead-st.edu
Jason Mann
>>in your browser. Right now I am using the PowerPoint Animation Player
>>but I would like to know if there is something else that is better or
>>use less storage, while at the same time download faster. Thank you for
>>your help.
Powerpoint can be streamed over the internet using NetShow, from Microsoft
or RealPresenter from RealNetworks. Both require you to set up your slides
in powerpoint and narrate them, then once the plugin has been dowloaded,
you can convert to either RealMedia or NetShow content.
The quality of the slides are degraded, so if you have very fine line
drawings they will turn out blurry. Some presentations have overcome this
obstacle by including URL flips or image flips, timed with the presentation.
Jason Mann
Asynchronous Learning Network Web Group
jason...@vanderbilt.edu
Clint Brooks
Adobe Acrobat?
Clint Brooks
Distance Learning Coordinator
NorthWest Arkansas Community College
One College Drive
Bentonville, AR 72712
(501)619-4382
FAX (501)619-4383
cbr...@nwacc.cc.ar.us
bro...@comp.uark.edu
http://labs.nwacc.cc.ar.us/disted/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: deos moderator [SMTP:de...@psu.edu]
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 10:40 PM
> To: DEO...@lists.psu.edu
> Subject: Re: [DEOS] PowerPoint Over the Web
>
> lowe...@BLUE.UNCO.EDU wrote:
>
> I've gotten so frustrated with the whole thing that I have given up on =
> displaying PowerPoint *in* the browser and instruct people to just =
> download the presentation and view it in PowerPoint.
>
> If you're using a FrontPage enabled server and the audience is using IE =
> 4.0 or higher it works pretty well with little or no enhancement. But =
> that set of criteria is so rarely met that it's not really an option.
>
> Nathan Lowell
> Catapult Software Training
>
> Educational Technology: Engineering tomorrow's minds today.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Distance Education [SMTP:dis...@CTCD.CC.TX.US]
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 1999 6:55 AM
> To: DEO...@lists.psu.edu
> Subject: [DEOS] PowerPoint Over the Web
>
> I would like your advice on what technology is best to show PowerPoint
> in your browser. Right now I am using the PowerPoint Animation Player
> but I would like to know if there is something else that is better or
> use less storage, while at the same time download faster. Thank you for
> your help.
>
> Jackie Hamilton
> Technology Specialist
>
> =
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> DEOS-L is a service provided to the Distance Education community by
> The American Center for the Study of Distance Education, The =
Jodi Reed
I've had great success with the "Save As HTML" option. PowerPoint converts
the slides to web pages with slides at graphics and as text. You can
choose the size and image format, and you can even include a link to the
PowerPoint file so they can download it if they like. If you have
hyperlinks in your presenation, those will also show up in your
presentation. The Web pages start with an index page, and students can
look at the graphics version or the text version.
I like this because it's a quick and easy way to get my presentations
online. I've used both Mac and Win95 to do this, but it seems to work
better (smaller files) in Win95.
Jodi
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Jodi Reed
Pacific Bell Education Web Developer
Cuyamaca College Instructor
jo...@banyantree.org
619-237-2019
http://www.kn.pacbell.com/wired
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Jackie Hamilton wrote:
>
>I would like your advice on what technology is best to show PowerPoint
>in your browser. Right now I am using the PowerPoint Animation Player
>but I would like to know if there is something else that is better or
>use less storage, while at the same time download faster. Thank you for
>your help.
>
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Robert Hannu
jlsh...@MOREHEAD-ST.EDU writes:
> The biggest difference in preparing for a DL class with
> compressed video compared to a traditional class seems to be the
> effect of timing/delay and being boxed in with the equipment.
> (Yes, you can use a lapel mike and slave the camera to you as you walk --
> but delay ((in this case camera's tracking)) is still a factor and you must
> adjust your pace accordingly.)
This has been a significant concern with the use of interactive television for
K-12 classes. The approach that has been taken in the state of Wisconsin
(among other states) is to implement a system with low latency (delay). The
system put in place in the Wisconsin "BadgerNet" video network is a Tektronix
DS-3 based system, with a system delay of only around 70 ms (as opposed to the
300+ ms which is typical in ISDN or T-1 based compressed video systems) and
operating at 30 frames/second. This low latency is virtually transparent to
the user.
Regarding the issue of using "autotracking" cameras for the instructor, the
new state videoconference sites are using the Sony EVI-D30 Integrated Camera
system which has a very good tracking system that includes not only controls
camera "panning", but also "tilt" and "zoom" to maintain shot composure no
matter where the instructor moves in the room (within limits) without having
to be "wired" with a special Transmitter. The use of autotracking cameras
with H-320 based compressed video systems has often been discouraged due to
the motion handling problems involved with the constant camera movement. The
classrooms also have a wireless instructor microphone as a standard feature.
If anyone is interested in the specifics of the network or in the equipment
list for the state network classrooms, please feel free to contact me.
Robert Hannu
Chair,
Wisconsin Association of Distance Education Networks
Clint Brooks
VTEL videoconferencing units allow for camera "presets", shots that are set
up in advance and stored in the unit's memory. A clever instructor in a
well designed room (with mics that will pick up most or all of the room) can
select a preset to a wider shot, even in another part of the room... move to
that shot and continue teaching, then return to the "home" spot (usually
where the unit controls are located) and reset the camera.
This technique takes some planning and a little practice (and is not a
spontaneous as some would prefer) but offers some freedom for the instructor
to mingle with the on site class.
I would refrain from utilizing it too much though as the other sites may
become somewhat alienated by the technique as it creates the impression of a
closer relationship with the on site students than the remote site students.
Using computer presentations may also let the instructor move about,
provided the room is suitably mic'd and the instructor can control the
presentation from afar (a wireless mouse being the appropriate tool... or a
facilitator).
Clint Brooks
Distance Learning Coordinator
NorthWest Arkansas Community College
One College Drive
Bentonville, AR 72712
(501)619-4382
FAX (501)619-4383
cbr...@nwacc.cc.ar.us
bro...@comp.uark.edu
http://labs.nwacc.cc.ar.us/disted/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JANET LEE SHARIK [SMTP:jlsh...@MOREHEAD-ST.EDU]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 8:25 AM
> To: DEO...@lists.psu.edu
> Subject: [DEOS] space and timing
>
> The biggest difference in preparing for a DL class with
> compressed video compared to a traditional class seems to be the
> effect of timing/delay and being boxed in with the equipment.
> (Yes, you can use a lapel mike and slave the camera to you as you walk --
> but delay ((in this case camera's tracking)) is still a factor and you
> must
> adjust your pace accordingly.)
>
> Q1: what research is out there on delay/timing especially in relating to
> communication?
>
> Q2: tips for not letting technology "box" you in?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> babyhuey at jlsh...@morehead-st.edu
>
Linda Riddell
thanks
Linda Riddell
At 12:59 PM 1/25/99 -0600, you wrote:
>At 07:54 AM 1/22/99 -0600, you wrote:
>>I would like your advice on what technology is best to show PowerPoint
>>in your browser. Right now I am using the PowerPoint Animation Player
>>but I would like to know if there is something else that is better or
>>use less storage, while at the same time download faster. Thank you for
>>your help.
>>
>
>RealNetworks has a product called RealPresenter functions as a Plug-in for
>PowerPoint. It will convert your powerpoint slides to a streaming media
>presentation.
>
>
>Thomas S. Ingebritsen, Ph.D.
>Associate Professor
>Department of Zoology and Genetics
>Chairman, Project BIO Steering Committee
>Email: tsin...@iastate.edu
>Phone: (515) 294-9432
>Fax: (515) 294-8457
>Web: http://www.iastate.edu/~tsingebr
>
Chris Jesshope
powerpoint slides to real multimedia presentations, as easily as giving a
class. These can be streamed over the web by the audiograph plugin.
Both can be found (for free) at:
http://fims-www.massey.ac.nz/~audiogph
Chris Jesshope
Steve Kessell
> How does one find RealPresenter Plug-in for Powerpoint?
> thanks
> Linda Riddell
http://www.real.com/products/index.html
Click on Real Presenter Plugin for Powerpoint on pulldown menu
or
http://www.real.com/products/tools/presenter/index.html?src=productsmain
--
Stephen R. Kessell, Associate Professor
National Key Centre for School Science and Mathematics
Curtin University of Technology, Perth, Western Australia 6845
s.ke...@smec.curtin.edu.au
We...@smec.curtin.edu.au
http://www.curtin.edu.au/curtin/dept/smec/ipd
Tel +61 8 9266 7297 (S Kessell v-mail); +61 8 9266-3365 (general inquiries);
Fax +61 8 9266-2503
ICQ: 26769149
Clint Brooks
goes, Power Point presentations come off rather well (at least the few I've
seen). Since Acrobat generally arranges the slides one to a page, navigation
is not tremendously difficult and actually, it's quite easy to skip across
multiple pages in a presentation using Acrobat reader.
Clearly, the Power Point viewer plug-in is the optimal viewer for these
presentations in that the presentations are in their natural state (meaning,
with all the transitions and effects intact). Of course a total download of
the file is necessary for both of the choices I've mentioned as the browser
just downloads the file in its entirety for whatever plug in is selected,
whereas using the convertor as you've mentioned puts each slide in an HTML
document as a graphic and downloads the HTML files as you move through the
presentation.
The important thing is to be aware of the strengths and weaknesses of each
choice. While .pdf files are not designed for browsing per say, the fact
that they can be browsed and are print ready, makes them usefully versatile.
Of course printing is possible from all of these options...it remains up to
the instructor to decide which fits in best with their objectives. A
process which hopefully, by discussing the possibilities, we have aided.
Cheers,
Clint Brooks
Distance Learning Coordinator
NorthWest Arkansas Community College
One College Drive
Bentonville, AR 72712
(501)619-4382
FAX (501)619-4383
cbr...@nwacc.cc.ar.us
bro...@comp.uark.edu
http://labs.nwacc.cc.ar.us/disted/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Powell, Al [SMTP:apo...@LEARN.COLOSTATE.EDU]
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 1999 4:56 PM
> To: DEO...@LISTS.PSU.EDU
> Subject: Re: [DEOS] PowerPoint Over the Web
>
> I agree that PowerPoint's HTMl conversion engine is quite good. It often
> takes some playing with (for instance, I don't save the slides at more
> than
> 3/4 screen size because they are too large otherwise...) but you can
> develop
> different saving formats and re-use them.
>
> I have a quibble with Acrobat files. I would like to point out that Adobe
> Acrobat (pdf) files were developed for a very specific reason - they allow
> well-edited and composed documents to be transferred across the internet
> and
> printed at the user's end with all formatting and graphics as intended.
> It
> was NOT developed as a tool to be used in a web browser. Although pdf
> documents CAN be viewed in a browser, they are not effective in that
> context! They are difficult to read, hard to navigate in, and the Acrobat
> software is counter-intuitive when used inside a browser.
>
> So my note is to remind us that pdf files are not very browsable documents
> -
> they are meant to be printed and are used most apppriately in that
> context.
>
> > > lowe...@BLUE.UNCO.EDU wrote:
> > >
> > > I've gotten so frustrated with the whole thing that I have
> > given up on displaying PowerPoint *in* the browser and instruct people
> to
> just =
> > > download the presentation and view it in PowerPoint.
>
> > Have you tried converting the Power Point presentations to
> > .pdf files with Adobe Acrobat?
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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> Division of Educational Outreach
> Colorado State University
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