Thank you, Pavel
I have no objections, other than that the wording must be examined by Jo Halman for clarity and language. Once found to be ok, I do suggest incorporating the clarifictions as suggested into the next version of the Code.
Kind regards,
Peter Germann
F2B Working Group Coordinator
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Dear Peter
I am not sure that it is wise to change "shall" to "should" in 4.2.15.14. e and 4.2.15.15. because "should" is only a recommendation, therefore if the pilot does not conform he cannot be marked down.
I think that the clarifications will in any case have to go to Plenary.
Best regards, Peter
Statistic of using the wording “shall“ or “must“ and “should“ in the description of manoeuvres:
|
rule |
“shall” or “must” |
“should” |
|
4.2.15. |
0 / 1 |
0 |
|
4.2.15.1. |
0 |
0 |
|
4.2.15.2. |
4 / 0 |
0 |
|
4.2.15.3. |
0 / 1 |
7 |
|
4.2.15.4. |
0 |
11 |
|
4.2.15.5. |
0 |
7 |
|
4.2.15.6. |
0 |
2 |
|
4.2.15.7. |
0 |
7 |
|
4.2.15.8. |
0 |
8 |
|
4.2.15.9. |
0 |
9 |
|
4.2.15.10. |
0 |
10 |
|
4.2.15.11. |
0 |
16 |
|
4.2.15.12. |
0 |
21 |
|
4.2.15.13. |
0 |
16 |
|
4.2.15.14. |
1 / 0 |
12 |
|
4.2.15.15. |
1 / 1 |
13 |
|
4.2.15.16. |
0 |
16 |
|
4.2.15.17. |
2 / 0 |
3 |
|
total |
8 / 3 |
158 |
Wording “should“ is normally used for flight path description.
Wording “shall“ or “must“ is used for rule, where no other alternatives allowed, for example:
4.2.15.2. … 10 points shall be awarded if the above 1 minute condition is fulfilled, …
4.2.15.2. … mark 0 (zero) shall be given if no hand signal is given …
4.2.15.3. a) … The model aircraft must take off from the ground.
4.2.15.17. b) … a “2 point” or a “3 point” touch down shall be judged as equally correct.
Using of this wording in this cases is OK in my opinion.
But rule:
4.2.15.14. e) … The bottom segment shall be flown along the base maintaining the established height. …
is for me the same case using of wording as rule:
4.2.15.10. d) … The aircraft should then turn sharply into upright level flight along the base (+/- 30 cm).
or rule:
4.2.15.12. e) … and this section should be flown along the base (+/- 30 cm). …
This rule is description of ideally flight path, but deviation from this rule is not awarded a mark 0 (zero) or anulation of flight or disqualification of competitor.
Manoeuvre size description (rule 4.2.15.15.) is the same definition as a part of the flight path.
It si my view on this issue.
Regards Pavel
Thank you very much, Jo. There are, of course, no objections from my side and I suggest incorporating the language improvements as is.
Kind regards, Peter Germann
Von: Jo Halman
[mailto:jo.h...@ntlworld.com]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. November
2011 18:48
An: Peter Germann;
f2b-...@googlegroups.com
Cc: Subcommittee F2
Betreff: Re: AW: 2011 F2B wording
errors
Dear Peter et al
Inexcusable delay in my response. The green text is good English and clear.
Best regards, Jo
CIAM Technical Secretary
From: Peter Germann
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 3:51 PM
Cc: Subcommittee F2 ; Jo Halman
Subject: AW: 2011 F2B wording errors