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Cap

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Jun 11, 2012, 8:32:43 AM6/11/12
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For once McLaren got it right for Lewis and he showed the way for
Vettel and Alonso. This must be one of the very rare occasions when
Seb failed to storm off from pole and cruise to victory.
Great run by Grosjean, also showing the way to his illustrious
teammate - has he had a few quiet chats with Nico over a jar or two? {:
0)
And Perez a commendable 3rd. Surely Montezemelo is sandbagging when he
says Perez isn't ready to drive the Ferrari.
Another nightmare weekend for Jenson. It seems these Pirellis are
beyond his ability to heat them up so unless the compounds change or
his driving style does, he's going to continue having a miserable
year. Rumour has it however, that Pirelli may well introduce harder
compounds designed to go longer into the races so perhaps redemption
is on the cards for him. He's got a fight on his hands though if he's
to climb back into the DWC
Schumachers year isn't any better. I don't think he can really
complain can he? After all, he had boundless luck in his first career
didn't he? Facetious? Moi?

Trevor Jones

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Jun 11, 2012, 10:04:50 AM6/11/12
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Lewis very nearly cocked for himself, or does the Macca anti-stall need attention? Unbeleivable performance from Ferrari, Alonso must be pleased.

I can only surmise that all of Michael's 'luck' from years previous is being karmically retributed. For a man who said you make your own luck ....

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Tom Bridge

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Jun 11, 2012, 11:18:26 AM6/11/12
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The McLaren's launch software needs an overhaul, it really does. They
have been slow off the line on several occasions and then there are
the niggles during the pitstops. However the team did a good job on
Saturday and Lewis drove beautifully. He has always been good in
Canada, but this drive was really top drawer. I really thought it was
going to be a Ferdy and Seb show but even if they had followed Lewis
into the pits at the end he would have won. Lewis' great drive really
puts the spotlight on Jenson. The gap between him and Lewis yesterday
was like the gap between Alonso and Massa in Oz. Talking of Massa, I
thought he drove an excellent opening two (or was it three) laps. The
Ferrari is now everything it needs to be for him to be up at the sharp
end, yet he is still not there whilst Perez is. Surely the swap
cannot be more than a season away? Brilliant drive from Grosjean,
just shows what a one man team Renault was when Briatore was in
charge. That stint under his Flaviness almost destroyed Grosjean's
career. Mystified by what happened to diResta, as it seems is he, but
he is ahead in the battle with Hulkenberg which is impressive of
itself.

Merc are disappointing again, Nico was blisteringly quick in parts and
very average in others and I suspect nobody in the team is too
impressed with 6th. Schumi would have been 9th or 10th if he finished
so no huge loss in not finishing (although I noticed on a forum
elsewhere that his diehard supporters are seeing this incident as
proof of a universal conspiracy against the master..... which is quite
amusing).


On 11 June, 15:04, Trevor Jones <tjz1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lewis very nearly cocked for himself, or does the Macca anti-stall need attention? Unbeleivable performance from Ferrari, Alonso must be pleased.
>
> I can only surmise that all of Michael's 'luck' from years previous is being karmically retributed. For a man who said you make your own luck ....
>
> Sent from my lovely 64G iPad
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> On 11 Jun 2012, at 01:32 PM, Cap <capitainmidni...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > For once McLaren got it right for Lewis and he showed the way for
> > Vettel and Alonso. This must be one of the very rare occasions when
> > Seb failed to storm off from pole and cruise to victory.
> > Great run by Grosjean, also showing the way to his illustrious
> > teammate - has he had a few quiet chats with Nico over a jar or two? {:
> > 0)
> > And Perez a commendable 3rd. Surely Montezemelo is sandbagging when he
> > says Perez isn't ready to drive the Ferrari.
> > Another nightmare weekend for Jenson. It seems these Pirellis are
> > beyond his ability to heat them up so unless the compounds change or
> > his driving style does, he's going to continue having a miserable
> > year. Rumour has it however, that Pirelli may well introduce harder
> > compounds designed to go longer into the races so perhaps redemption
> > is on the cards for him. He's got a fight on his hands though if he's
> > to climb back into the DWC
> > Schumachers year isn't any better. I don't think he can really
> > complain can he? After all, he had boundless luck in his first career
> > didn't he? Facetious? Moi?
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Capitain...@aol.com

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Jun 12, 2012, 8:07:45 AM6/12/12
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Yes Lewis drove an immaculate race, yet Jenson is just as capable, as proven in the past, that he can match that level of superiority.
 
So Tom, how do you read Jensons problems? Too smooth to heat up the tyres or is it all in his head? I mention the latter as Anthony Davidson, who knows him well, has said that he can make so many changes during free practice and even qualifying that the team end up back where they started having gained nothing. On those occasions Is JB subconsciously believing he's going to struggle even before he steps into the car?

Tom Bridge

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Jun 12, 2012, 4:53:08 PM6/12/12
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Not sure Richard, but this dip in form is more extreme than the mid-season dip in 2009 and I understood that to be tyre related. The moment temps fell he could not get heat into the tyres and right now he is all over the place on set up (not helped by the gearbox niggles in Canada). I heard that he was absolutely trashing his rubber on Sunday. All very confusing, because it was unexpectedly hot with the highest track temp of the weekend and that should have brought the set-up to him. Unfortunately this is not something they can fix in the simulator. He needs track time.

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Jun 13, 2012, 6:19:50 AM6/13/12
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Martin Whitmarsh has now said he takes the full blame, on behalf of the team too, for Jensons miserable performance in Canada. Their problems on Friday meant they couldn't put some long runs on the car thus the rear suspension set up was all wrong come Sunday, which destroyed his rear tyres. I hope they get it right for Valencia!
 
In a message dated 12/06/2012 21:53:09 GMT Daylight Time, Tom...@aol.com writes:
Not sure Richard, but this dip in form is more extreme than the mid-season dip in 2009 and I understood that to be tyre related. The moment temps fell he could not get heat into the tyres and right now he is all over the place on set up (not helped by the gearbox niggles in Canada). I heard that he was absolutely trashing his rubber on Sunday. All very confusing, because it was unexpectedly hot with the highest track temp of the weekend and that should have brought the set-up to him. Unfortunately this is not something they can fix in the simulator. He needs track time.

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Tom Bridge

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Jun 13, 2012, 7:53:02 AM6/13/12
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Hope they do get it right by Silverstone because it would be fantastic to see both Lewis and Jenson on top of their game in a very fast McLaren at their home GP.
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