[f-AA] 11AC Aeronca Chief on Ski's

[Aeronca]

Our friend Charlie Mileim's 11AC Aeronca Chief on Ski's!

Charlie lives in Pennsylvania.



Ray Johnson

[Rafael]

Cool.does the tail wheel pics up snow on it? Like a lump? Sorry 80f here today hate it

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[danv...@gmail.com]

Forgive my ignorance but all of my flight experience has been in the Southern USA. I've never seen a conventional gear small plane on skis.
From these excellent pictures it appears to me that the plane first touched down on the skis. The the tailwheel then drops into the snow and helps create that amazing storm around the tail feathers. I would have guessed that the tail wheel would "grab" the snow and rapidly slow the plane. But if so, would not the tail wheel deter taxiing and all but prevent enough acceleration to prevent attaining tail wheel up and take off speed? I'm obviously not getting it.
Dan v

[Jim Chuk]

The more packed the snow is, the more the tailwheel will dig in.  Not that much in fluffy snow.  Pushing the yoke or stick forward helps to get the weight off the tail when making sharp turns at slow speed.  I prefer to use a tail ski also, as I pack my strip in the winter, and a tailwheel will rut it up.  Ski flying is great! Better lift, and usually smoother air as well with the cold air.  Just wish the Chief had a better heater.  Jim Chuk

[Cy Galley]

try this... http://www.thenorthwestern.com/picture-gallery/news/local/oshkosh/2016/02/06/eaa-ski-plane-fly-in/79943878/?hootPostID=c309ae1b744389640bb35bd96a38f752

[danv...@gmail.com]

Thanks Cy and Jim. But I think I'll wait for the movie to released here in Florida. :)
I used to grumble about having to use a pre-heater occasionally on a cold Carolina morning.
But I must say it looks like great fun.
Dan v

[Cy Galley]

Aeroncas have heaters?

[John Rodkey]

They are actually thinly disguised right-big-toe burners.

I LOVED flying with Richard Starr on skis back a long time ago. 

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[Rich Dugger]

Left foot shoe melters in the Champ.

 

 

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(The head of IBM, refusing to back the idea, forcing the inventor to found Xerox)

 

From: John Rodkey

Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 7:24 PM

To: Aeronca Aviators

Subject: Re: [f-AA] 11AC Aeronca Chief on Ski's

 

They are actually thinly disguised right-big-toe burners.

I LOVED flying with Richard Starr on skis back a long time ago. 

 

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Cy Galley <cga...@mchsi.com> wrote:

Aeroncas have heaters?

 

From: Aeronca [mailto:aeronca...@westmont.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Chuk
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 3:42 PM
To: fearless Aeronca Aviators
Cc: aer...@westmont.edu
Subject: Re: [f-AA] 11AC Aeronca Chief on Ski's

 

The more packed the snow is, the more the tailwheel will dig in.  Not that much in fluffy snow.  Pushing the yoke or stick forward helps to get the weight off the tail when making sharp turns at slow speed.  I prefer to use a tail ski also, as I pack my strip in the winter, and a tailwheel will rut it up.  Ski flying is great! Better lift, and usually smoother air as well with the cold air.  Just wish the Chief had a better heater.  Jim Chuk

On Monday, February 8, 2016 at 11:06:09 AM UTC-6, Aeronca wrote:

Our friend Charlie Mileim's 11AC Aeronca Chief on Ski's!

Charlie lives in Pennsylvania.



Ray Johnson

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[Doug Rounds]

When I had my first airplane, a 1940 Stick Chief, a reject from
Western Michigan College way back then college competition program.
Bought it for $200 I barrowed from my grandfather replaced all wing
trailing edge arrow heads and recovered (college credit) and spent
the next year before military doing aviation things--the most fun
winter thing was landing on a close to town local lake and giving
rides on the weekend for gas(ya gotta build time somehow). You alway
survyed a path that had no ice fishing holes on it. Kids today don't
know what real fun building time for a flying job is. Only had one
ride in a ski equiped Luscombe during my life and that was in Flint,
Michigan.where I got both commercial and instrument ratings..the water
was OK to drink then.. Doug
P.S. Too bad the country is "structured" today--citizens don't know
what they are missing... Especially flight students..

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[Ian Harvie]

They work fine if you have Hanlon Wilson mufflers.

Ian

On 9/02/2016 9:22 AM, Cy Galley wrote:
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> Aeroncas have heaters?
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> *From:*Aeronca [mailto:aeronca...@westmont.edu] *On Behalf Of
> *Jim Chuk
> *Sent:* Monday, February 08, 2016 3:42 PM
> *To:* fearless Aeronca Aviators
> *Cc:* aer...@westmont.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [f-AA] 11AC Aeronca Chief on Ski's

>
> The more packed the snow is, the more the tailwheel will dig in. Not
> that much in fluffy snow. Pushing the yoke or stick forward helps to
> get the weight off the tail when making sharp turns at slow speed. I
> prefer to use a tail ski also, as I pack my strip in the winter, and a
> tailwheel will rut it up. Ski flying is great! Better lift, and
> usually smoother air as well with the cold air. Just wish the Chief
> had a better heater. Jim Chuk
>
> On Monday, February 8, 2016 at 11:06:09 AM UTC-6, Aeronca wrote:
>
> Our friend Charlie Mileim's 11AC Aeronca Chief on Ski's!
>
> Charlie lives in Pennsylvania.
>
>
>
> Ray Johnson
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[Jim Chuk]

I've got Hanlon Wilson mufflers on the 11BC chief, but the 1 1/2" flex tube and the quarter sized valve in the heat control box just don't let much air into the cockpit.  I've been going to make a new muffler shroud that would have a 3" out connection and have a valve from a Cessna 150 that will except a 3" tube.  Hate to start cutting  the firewall and then run into legal problems with it.  That is what I like about experimental aircraft.  No legal problem changing things to what works with them.   Jim Chuk

On Monday, February 8, 2016 at 11:06:09 AM UTC-6, Aeronca wrote:

[Aeronca]

Great to see folks flying their Aeronca's in the winter time! Looking
forward to Middletown 2016 in the spring.

[psa...@graffitis.com]

Log book entry with the later Citabria style....
"replaced firewall heater box with American Champion part number
2-2122...."

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Sent: 09 February 2016 09:58
To: "fearless Aeronca Aviators" <f-...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [f-AA] 11AC Aeronca Chief on Ski's

I've got Hanlon Wilson mufflers on the 11BC chief, but the 1 1/2" flex tube
and the quarter sized valve in the heat control box just don't let much air
into the cockpit. I've been going to make a new muffler shroud that would
have a 3" out connection and have a valve from a Cessna 150 that will
except a 3" tube. Hate to start cutting the firewall and then run into
legal problems with it. That is what I like about experimental aircraft.
No legal problem changing things to what works with them. Jim Chuk

On Monday, February 8, 2016 at 11:06:09 AM UTC-6, Aeronca wrote:Our friend

Charlie Mileim's 11AC Aeronca Chief on Ski's!

Charlie lives in Pennsylvania.

Ray Johnson

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